ktgrok Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The guest bathroom has needed to be remodeled since we moved in, but we've avoided it for 8 years. Well, suddenly the stick on vinyl tiles were...squishy. And water was coming up between them. Could be water the kids splashed, but we were afraid of what else it could be. This weekend my husband pulled up the tile and it was coming from the toilet...from the sewage pipe really! ICK! Broken flange. But...it gets worse Much worse. The idiots that put in the vinyl tile were not willing to pull up the linoleum that was already there and put it on the concrete slab (florida house). Or to put it just on top of the linoleum. No. They put a layer of plywood OVER the linoleum, then they vinyl. Which means there has been plywood soaking up that sewage and water while molding mildewing and rotting. UGH!!!!!!! Who does that? Hubby tore it all out, plus the bottom of the drywall to be sure he got all the dampness, and I'm calling a plumber today to fix the toilet flange. Guess that bathroom remodel is finally happening. Meanwhile we are down to one toilet for the five toilet trained people in my house. We'd already only been using the one shower due to damage to the wall tiles in that bathroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 ugh!!!! Good luck! and hugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The guest bathroom has needed to be remodeled since we moved in, but we've avoided it for 8 years. Well, suddenly the stick on vinyl tiles were...squishy. And water was coming up between them. Could be water the kids splashed, but we were afraid of what else it could be. This weekend my husband pulled up the tile and it was coming from the toilet...from the sewage pipe really! ICK! Broken flange. But...it gets worse Much worse. The idiots that put in the vinyl tile were not willing to pull up the linoleum that was already there and put it on the concrete slab (florida house). Or to put it just on top of the linoleum. No. They put a layer of plywood OVER the linoleum, then they vinyl. Which means there has been plywood soaking up that sewage and water while molding mildewing and rotting. UGH!!!!!!! Who does that? Hubby tore it all out, plus the bottom of the drywall to be sure he got all the dampness, and I'm calling a plumber today to fix the toilet flange. Guess that bathroom remodel is finally happening. Meanwhile we are down to one toilet for the five toilet trained people in my house. We'd already only been using the one shower due to damage to the wall tiles in that bathroom. What a nightmare! But congrats on getting a new bathroom! :). Silver lining and all that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The mind boggles. Plywood on top of slab? Although I guess the good news is that nothing stuck to the slab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 We ripped out a basement bathroom this weekend to remodel that had a broken toilet, and the entire bathroom has not been used in ~4 years. And there's no HVAC and no bathroom exhaust fan in there. I was terrified of what we'd find. But it was nowhere near as bad as trapped, molding plywood. Ewwwww. (Although I'm fully expecting subfloor replacement for the next bathroom remodel, because three little boys plus bath water plus pee equals a nightmare.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 That is pretty gross, but you will really have a whole new bathroom when done, so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 At least I only have one bathroom to stock with toilet paper for a while, lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Girl Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I would be freaking out over the grossness. But there's the bright side. You will finally have that nice, new bathroom. But oh, yuck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 I would be freaking out over the grossness. But there's the bright side. You will finally have that nice, new bathroom. But oh, yuck!! I was out of the house when he did it, but he took photos. wish I hadn't looked!!!! I just keep telling myself we lived this long without getting sick from it, so now that it is all ripped out and clean we are over it. Ugh. But so so so gross. And who the heck puts plywood OVER concrete slab??? In a BATHROOM????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Well...how old is the house? Was the bottom layer the original vinyl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Built in 2000. It was concrete then linoleum then plywood then stick on vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfIOnly Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Oh, no! Not another thing for you guys. Why is life like that? At least your DH could do the tear out and save you a few bucks there and there's no more nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Um... had it been smelling for a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwik Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I will disagree. In my experience there is always a layer of something between two layers of vinyl and a subfloor under vinyl. My kitchen had, wooden floor, hard board, vinyl, hardboard and the new layer of vinyl. I have seen people lay underlay and carpet directly on concrete but never vinyl and I have only seen it recommended to put hardboard on top of vinyl if not removing. For a wet area treated ply would be used instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Built in 2000. It was concrete then linoleum then plywood then stick on vinyl.Ah. Then they could have tore out the original vinyl. I thought maybe the house was built in the '60s or '70s, back then vinyl (linoleum) had asbestos and shouldn't be torn out. Though plywood is a pretty standard subfloor even for bathrooms. Sorry for your mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Ah. Then they could have tore out the original vinyl. I thought maybe the house was built in the '60s or '70s, back then vinyl (linoleum) had asbestos and shouldn't be torn out. Though plywood is a pretty standard subfloor even for bathrooms. Sorry for your mess. I guess it's just unusual here in Florida. Pretty much everyone just puts things down over the concrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Oh, for the person that asked, no, no smell other than maybe a bit of mildew smell sometimes, that I had attributed to wet bath mats/towels/etc. Honestly, the mold/mildew is freaking me out more than the sewage issue, but I have a mildew phobia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I guess it's just unusual here in Florida. Pretty much everyone just puts things down over the concrete.Yeah, here too. Tile and vinyl go directly onto concrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Oh no! This is why I'm scared to do improvement projects around the house. There's always something lurking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The guest bathroom has needed to be remodeled since we moved in, but we've avoided it for 8 years. Well, suddenly the stick on vinyl tiles were...squishy. And water was coming up between them. Could be water the kids splashed, but we were afraid of what else it could be. This weekend my husband pulled up the tile and it was coming from the toilet...from the sewage pipe really! ICK! Broken flange. But...it gets worse Much worse. The idiots that put in the vinyl tile were not willing to pull up the linoleum that was already there and put it on the concrete slab (florida house). Or to put it just on top of the linoleum. No. They put a layer of plywood OVER the linoleum, then they vinyl. Which means there has been plywood soaking up that sewage and water while molding mildewing and rotting. UGH!!!!!!! Who does that? Hubby tore it all out, plus the bottom of the drywall to be sure he got all the dampness, and I'm calling a plumber today to fix the toilet flange. Guess that bathroom remodel is finally happening. Meanwhile we are down to one toilet for the five toilet trained people in my house. We'd already only been using the one shower due to damage to the wall tiles in that bathroom. :scared: Glad you got that all ripped out. Ew! doesn't begin to cut it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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