amo_mea_filiis. Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I looked it up and can find many examples and pictures, but can't find the point of it, how to teach it, why teach it, when to teach it, grammar programs that include it, etc. :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Analytical Grammar and Junior Analytical Grammar focus on diagramming. Diagramming can help the student learn parts of speech and how the parts function together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrappyhomeschooler Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Diagramming is analyzing a sentence and relating all of its parts to each other. The basic diagram contains the subject and the verb of the sentence and any verb complements, then the offshoots relate the other words in the sentence to the main part of the sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Do people not normally do diagramming in school? I was homeschooled and did tons of diagramming so I guess I always thought everyone considered it necessary. Is that not the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amo_mea_filiis. Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 I didn't in PS. I barely learned parts of speech, parts of a sentence, parts of a story, etc. I'm reteaching myself now to hopefully be ahead of the kids when I introduce it to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Do people not normally do diagramming in school? I was homeschooled and did tons of diagramming so I guess I always thought everyone considered it necessary. Is that not the case? In the school system I grew up in, the last diagrammer retired in the '60s. GWG introduces it in level 3 and it is an interesting puzzle to work out. I have really enjoyed Rex Barks as a grown up intro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I vividly remember diagramming in middle school. (Late 80's/early 90's) My girls do it in FLL, and ds learned it in Voyages in English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter's Moon Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Do people not normally do diagramming in school? I was homeschooled and did tons of diagramming so I guess I always thought everyone considered it necessary. Is that not the case? I've never diagrammed at that's why I have so much trouble with sentence parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Analytical Grammar and Junior Analytical Grammar focus on diagramming. Diagramming can help the student learn parts of speech and how the parts function together. I agree. Mary Daly's book is great, if you want something just for diagramming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Do people not normally do diagramming in school? I was homeschooled and did tons of diagramming so I guess I always thought everyone considered it necessary. Is that not the case? I remember doing lots of grammar work - learning all the parts of speech and everything - but we didn't do anything that resulted in these strange looking things! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flobee76 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Do people not normally do diagramming in school? I was homeschooled and did tons of diagramming so I guess I always thought everyone considered it necessary. Is that not the case? I went to PS and remember diagramming sentences in school. Unfortunately, I don't remember all parts of speech, but DH certainly does (he went to private Christian school all his yrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Ds diagrammed in FLL and he diagrams now with Rod and Staff. Dd does diagramming in AG. All of those grammar programs teach diagramming. I never diagrammed a sentence either, until I had to teach it with First Language Lessons. I also had a very rudimentary grasp of parts of speech at the time. Thankfully, it's possible to learn right next to the kids. A good grammar course can teach you both at the same time ;) Dd's writing has gotten much better since I started teaching her grammar. She and I have only been hsing since October, and she came to me (from ps) not knowing even the basic parts of speech (noun? what's a noun?). Diagramming and parsing have taught her how a sentence functions and how the words relate to each other to communicate effectively. Before diagramming and parts of speech, dd was like a builder that doesn't really understand how nails and wood go together. Most of the time she could make a shelter, but it wasn't a very good one. Now, she understands how the pieces fit and she's well beyond a simple lean-to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 How strange. It never occurred to me that people didn't diagram, at least a little. It was very helpful to me in learning grammar. I don't mean to sound as if my own education didn't have holes in it because it very much does (I'm very weak in history and science). I wonder why this has been dropped from many public schools. It doesn't sound as if it was replaced with something that teaches grammar just as well. Sorry, I'm just confused. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjthedog64 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 My 7th grade LA teacher, back in 1986, made us diagram. But she was a very old school teacher. I remember not having any idea why we were drawing all those lines. Then again, no other teacher taught it. We did cover grammar through grade school, so I knew the basics. It might have made more sense if I'd known why we were doing it. I do plan to teach it to DS, and I'll make sure he understands why we're doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannqn Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I did very basic diagramming in school. It was pretty basic subject, predicate, adjectives, adverbs, and maybe a prepositional phrase but nothing as complex as that link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I diagrammed in 8th grade which would have been mid 80s. But I didn't diagram at all in high school. I've taught ds11 diagramming through FLL and now have a separate book of diagramming sentences I've picked up the local teacher's store. I think it's important, especially for this kid, to continue to work on parts of speech. He likes diagramming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimnc Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Diagramming is a very good way to visualize the parts of speech in a sentence. Think of it as a grammar tool. Especially useful if you have a visual-spatial learner. I second the recommendation on Mary Daly's book. Great resource. Frank Shaffer publications also has one that may be more readily available, if you don't want to order online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 We did a lot of diagramming in the PS I attended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentancalann Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I diagrammed in PS in late 80's, early 90's. It's interesting to see that there are some who don't know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 My daughter, in 7th grade, was one of the ones in her class that knew how to pick out a noun. Seriously, she said she was the only one... perhaps there were others?? (She could have diagrammed a sentence! Yay! I did something right :)) ; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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