sassenach Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Kind of shocked we don't have a thread on this yet. What time did the attack start? I've been at work all day and am just catching up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 About 18 hours ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 It’s Saturday. I think a lot of us have been busy with activities and football. And the rest of us don’t know what to make of it. The news clips of civilian massacre are horrifying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Just piggybacking on mention of news clips - be really careful of social media at this time. There are videos circulating of female r*pe victims, including desecration of their bodies after death, and some of the videos open automatically. You don't want to see some of this stuff. The Guardian, The BBC, Al-Jazeera all have live blogs which are a better option than social media. Edited October 8, 2023 by Melissa Louise 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 That's horrific, thank you for the warning. Al-Jazeera had a good timeline and Washington post had a decent summary with video clips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Even ABC had a pretty horrible clip of a bloody wall over blurred bodies. Everyone who worked at a kibbutz was lined up and shot 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Terrible. Edited October 8, 2023 by Melissa Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookbard Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I have a friend in the UN who is there at the moment - haven't heard from her, I'm sure she's ok but I wish she'd respond. I feel a mix of anger and sorrow and just sheer frustration at all these people who think war is the answer. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I don’t have anything valuable to offer a discussion. Any time I’ve tried to understand the situation I’ve come away more confused and unable to imagine any resolution. All I have is sadness for people hurt and killed. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteHaus Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Edited by moderator for inflammatory language. Edited October 8, 2023 by answerdeskwtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Reported.. 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith-manor Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I am just heart broken. So many lives shattered. I have no idea what can be done about it. I worry about escalations beyond their region as nations take up sides. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 260 bodies found at a music festival. Terrorism. 2 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 And now in retaliation civilian Highrises and communities are being bombed. 😞 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Starr said: And now in retaliation civilian Highrises and communities are being bombed. 😞 What did Hamas expect? Regardless of the justice of Palestinian human rights, Hamas knew this would be the outcome, not only for Israelis, but for ordinary Palestinians. Terrorists cause terror, and it is indiscriminate. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condessa Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Starr said: And now in retaliation civilian Highrises and communities are being bombed. 😞 Though apparently they are sending out mass text messages to evacuate, first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Condessa said: Though apparently they are sending out mass text messages to evacuate, first. I think the problem is, there is nowhere safe to go. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amira Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 A Jewish friend of mine who was in Gaza visiting his wife's family was able to fly out this morning, but they had to leave her parents behind. There really is no place safe to go in Gaza, and the vast majority of people living there can't leave. My friends had no idea yesterday why there were missiles coming down around them until they were able to get news reports. I have Israeli and Palestinian friends, and I hate to think of what is happening there. I also have Filipina and American friends living in Israel now (although not in southern Israel, so they are currently out of harm's way). The attacks by Hamas were absolutely horrific. I am concerned that many Palestinians are not really seeing how awful Hamas's actions were, and that this will not help the Palestinian cause at all. 3 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa Louise Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Amira said: A Jewish friend of mine who was in Gaza visiting his wife's family was able to fly out this morning, but they had to leave her parents behind. There really is no place safe to go in Gaza, and the vast majority of people living there can't leave. My friends had no idea yesterday why there were missiles coming down around them until they were able to get news reports. I have Israeli and Palestinian friends, and I hate to think of what is happening there. I also have Filipina and American friends living in Israel now (although not in southern Israel, so they are currently out of harm's way). The attacks by Hamas were absolutely horrific. I am concerned that many Palestinians are not really seeing how awful Hamas's actions were, and that this will not help the Palestinian cause at all. I hope your friends and their families will be ok. This last paragraph. 100%. Israel will not allow itself to be destroyed. Nobody should be cheering on the destruction of an (imperfect) democracy that provides refuge from one of humanities oldest and most enduring forms of prejudice and hatred. Action predicated on the basis that it must be destroyed will not win human rights for Palestinians. After Hamas murdered and desecrated the corpse of a young German woman, Germany is rethinking ALL its aid to the Palestinians. How does that help Palestinian women and children? I'm appalled that there were people in my city out celebrating Hamas last night. They had the same access to news I did. No decent human celebrates terror. 9 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauraw4321 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 It seems so hopeless and horrific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 And this thread really belongs in politics 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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