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  1. We were given a whole sheep to fill up our freezer. I mean, it was a lamb, but I pictured a lamb as little. This thing was the size of a sheep. A sheep farmer we know called us up this evening and asked if we wanted a free lamb to butcher ourselves. Some dogs had gotten at his sheep and chased this one into a fence, and it broke its neck. He had no more refrigeration room to store the carcass, couldn’t get it to the butcher in time, and didn’t want it to go to waste. We offered to pay him, but he said no. He had already skinned and gutted it and removed the head and feet for us. Do
  2. Isn’t this what is supposed to happen? Most of the time, we wind up with opposing sides holding power over different branches of government, and that’s by design, right? So they can be a check on one another, and force compromise, unless there is so much consensus in the population as to provide one party with multiple branches, super majorities, etc. ETA: I do think that term limits on the Supreme Court would be a very good idea, so that the judiciary branch will also fit into this natural check better, rather than a party that was voted more power at some point possibly many
  3. There was the teacher from Dwight-Englewood school. I’m sorry, I don’t have time to find the post now. I have to go.
  4. This response wasn’t about the original post. It was in response to this post: (Bolding Sneezyone’s to emphasize what her response was to.)
  5. I’ve really appreciated your input here. This board is not especially left-leaning as a whole, but there are some left-leaning posters here who really jump on certain viewpoints, and hold posts on opposing ideas and topics to a much higher standard of evidence. It makes it feel like a more polarized place, because of the vocality of one side. Don’t give up. We all stand to benefit when our ideas are challenged by a variety of well thought-out perspectives and a willingness to ask questions.
  6. Well, she did provide many examples of curriculum, books, and parents and students telling how it was taught in their actual classrooms. Such as the Nevada mom talking about her teenaged biracial son who was being denied graduation for having failed the class in which he refused to publicly identify his oppressor/oppressed heritage. I suppose you could argue that oppressor/oppressed doesn’t mean bad/good, but one of those definitely means something we all think is bad. Here’s a few examples of Plum giving evidence of specific programs and family reports on how it was implemented
  7. But this was not the position on immigration that my post described, that you responded to with “It can be an excuse for anti-Latino racism. . .” The position was “make it a whole lot easier for people to come here legally, offer a one-time path to citizenship for people already here, and then crack down hard on further illegal immigration”. This is, word for word, what you said “can be an excuse for anti-Latino racism”. Not ‘make it a whole lot easier for certain people to come here legally while instituting policies to keep undesirables out.’ It’s this tendency of some on
  8. Yes. They can hold moderate opinions. My point was that moderates can have well thought-out positions, not just know too little to hold a position as stated earlier in the thread.
  9. Maybe I should have said very left, instead of very liberal. I’ll try to be more accurate.
  10. This was the same conversation in which she claimed that the word “Hispanic” is a racist dogwhistle, and said that my husband and children’s experiences as Hispanic Americans didn’t “count”, I think with the implication that their skin color isn’t dark enough to be “really” Hispanic. (She used the word Latinx, but I use my husband’s family’s preferred term. I honestly think that she temporarily forgot that my family is Hispanic, and didn’t want to admit it in the moment). Yes, if someone wants to limit all immigration from Latin America for the reason of limiting nonwhite immigration, of
  11. It seems like, to take the general average temperature of posters on this thread, 1 There is a lot of uncertainty/confusion over what CRT actually entails. 2 Many seem to agree that certain (mis?)applications occurring in schools that are being labeled under the umbrella of CRT are a bad idea. 3 Many are worried that reactions against these (mis)applications resulting in banning of CRT in schools is (either mistakenly or by design) throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and will prevent kids from learning vital information about racism today. So what is the hive’s
  12. Yeah, my extremely liberal family member called me a racist for expressing this position, and asserted that basically anything right of open borders was just an excuse for anti-latino racism.
  13. Yeah, moderates exist, not just people who don’t know enough to take a side. There are actual moderate, well thought-out positions to hold that fall between the right or left. For example, on immigration, the position of ‘make it a whole lot easier for people to come here legally, offer a one-time path to citizenship for people already here, and then crack down hard on further illegal immigration’ falls between the popular opposing viewpoints.
  14. It’s true. The more extreme people go, the more they start to look like the people furthest opposite them. Two of my dh’s old college friends have each gone to opposite extremes in the years since, and sometimes I feel like I’m in the twilight zone seeing how similar they have begun to sound.
  15. Found this in the Department of Homeland Security’s most recent Homeland Threat Assessment: ”Among DVEs (Domestic Violent Extremists), racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists—specifically white supremacist extremists (WSEs)—will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland. Spikes in other DVE threats probably will depend on political or social issues that often mobilize other ideological actors to violence, such as immigration, environmental, and police-related policy issues.” https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threa
  16. This article references tracking of active hate groups by the SPLC, which shows a decline from a high point in 2018. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/01/hate-groups-including-white-nationalists-declined-2020-splc-says/4341422001/
  17. Not specifically, but the first link has this mention of racial tension (emphasis mine): “Throughout 2020, Domestic Violent Extremists (DVEs) targeted individuals with opposing views engaged in First Amendment-protected, non-violent protest activity. DVEs motivated by a range of issues, including anger over COVID-19 restrictions, the 2020 election results, and police use of force have plotted and on occasion carried out attacks against government facilities. Long-standing racial and ethnic tension—including opposition to immigration—has driven DVE attacks, including a 2019 shooti
  18. I found a recording of another parent from Loudoun County addressing their school board: “In the words of Martin Luther King Jr., ‘I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Now I have a dream that we will implement love, not hate, or supporting another Jim Crow’s agenda. CRT is not a ‘nice dialogue,’ it was a tactic that was used by Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan on slaveries many years ago to dumb down my ancestors so we could not think for ourselves. CR
  19. Are they aligning with white supremacy in large numbers? I was under the impression that white supremacy had been on a gradual decline since the civil rights era, but was receiving a lot more attention now because of certain public figures and because of social movements that cast a light on it, but I’d appreciate more information if I need correcting.
  20. In my experience, the big problem is that sometimes these things are taught where blanket statements about issues today are made without showing any evidence to back it up, and anyone asking about evidence is indicated as the problem by the instructor. My dh had an employee diversity training week with this experience. Maybe this was just a really inept instructor, and that was why she was unprepared with reasons to back up her statements. But there is a distinction between teaching established fact and teaching a common but not universally accepted theory without backing it up, a
  21. Question for those who are very familiar with what CRT actually is: With all the uncertainty back and forth here about what CRT entails, I was searching for a source with specifics and found this article with specific information on an educator training course on white supremacy. It seems to fit with what the general public thinks of as CRT. Is this what is meant by CRT? (as applied to education as it is now by both supporters and opponents of it, vs. its original narrower definition regarding the law). If this is not CRT, can you explain the distinction? https://nypost.com/201
  22. From the above linked local news article on the law suit: “Under the ambassador program, schools select a handful of students who meet with principals and other school leaders to discuss [incidents of racist behavior in their school communities], while the reporting system urges students to anonymously report observations using a form online.”
  23. Relating to this statement from the statement of the mother that inspired this thread: “We were also encouraged to report on each other, just like the Student Equity Ambassador program and the Bias Reporting System.” The Loudoun school district is currently under a law suit from parents over these two programs. https://wtop.com/loudoun-county/2021/06/equity-programs-in-loudoun-co-schools-lead-to-lawsuit-from-parents/ It apparently involves having students report on each other.
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