Slache Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'm reading online about how these teas are going to kill or deform my unborn child. Friday: lemon ginger Saturday: peppermint Sunday: raspberry hibiscus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Smart was always sexy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Smart was always sexy. Yessss. Edited January 3, 2016 by texasmama 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Staring point for net year/grade 4 Subject to change Too much? :svengo: Not enough? :lol: Foreign Language German Learnables Basic Structures 2/Grammar Enhancement 2 Arts ARTistic Pursuits Penmanship Pictures in Cursive Book D - this would be the first to go Grammar MCT Level 2 Writing Writing Strands 3 Writing Strands - Evaluating Writing Reading/Literature Suppose the Wolf Were an Octopus: A Guide to Creative Questioning 3-4 continue Alice, Peter, and Mole Spelling All About Spelling - Level 5 Math Beast Academy 4A-4D Math in Focus Grade 4 Workbook A and B Set Science Supercharged Science - Science Mastery History History Odyssey: Early Modern Level 1 Story of the World Vol. 3: Early Modern Times (Hardcover) Story of the World Vol. 3 Activity Book (Paperback) - not sure I need to add more for history, we've been pretty happy with HO, but was here before I decided on Writing Strands... Geography Maps associated with HO Programming Code.org Python - Computer Coding Edited: table formatted wonky :( Edited January 3, 2016 by ikslo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Ikslo, I'm not intimately familiar with everything you have chosen, so take this with a grain of salt. I always risk outing myself as a slacker because I almost always think that other people's plans look like too much. :D I have no problem if you decide to drop the penmanship, but I doubt it takes long and you might like it a lot. I generally have spent more time on history than science, and I'm not recommending you do that, but I'm saying I think it's hard to do a full program for both - usually something has to give. But I'm not familiar with Supercharged Science - it might be super efficient. Also, I poked around HO level 2 at one time, but I don't remember how heavy the work load is for level 1. Is it possible you don't even need a writing program alongside it? And lastly, how much of a step up in workload is it from what you're doing now? I'm guessing you have an idea of how much time per day and how many days per week you'll spend on each subject? I'm not suggesting you following a rigid schedule, but put it all on paper as if you were - does it work? Also, you have two maths - which is fantastic, nice programs, etc., but take that into account as you look at time usage. For myself, having a really solid (demanding?) program in every subject felt overwhelming to me after 6 - 10 weeks. It helped me to decide ahead which subjects were "get 'er done" and which ones would receive more of my focus. Hope I'm not coming across negatively. It's a great line up! You have the benefit of homeschooling an only which allows you to bring focus and enthusiasm across more subjects, but you work too. If you think I'm a horrible human being because I've rained on your parade, I'm sorry. If you think I'm a horrible human being because I'm a slacker, I can live with that. :D Edited January 4, 2016 by Another Lynn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 My 4th grader is doing: Abeka Grammar and Spelling Abeka math/moving into Saxon 5/4 BJU Bible miscellaneous geography minimal science "do-it-yourself" art "whatever-she-wants-to" writing (She likes to write.) her own handwriting (She's a lefty; I'm not. She seems to be doing fine.) playing -- lots of playing I think that your plan looks fine, but it does seem like an awful lot of curriculum. If you're doing all of that every day, I think it's too much and your ds will try to find out where Junie's Minimalist Homeschool is. However, if this is about how much you've used this year, you might not have a mutiny and you're going to end up with one bright kid!! :) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ikslo, have you used Beast Academy before? It looks really interesting, and I'm thinking about getting at least the comic book parts for the dc to read on their own, as a supplement to the math they're already doing. I think that even some of my older kids could benefit from the different approach to math, and if it's in story form, some of them will read it for fun. Does anybody know if it could work this way? Or will I need the workbooks, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ikslo, why German and why only MCT grammar as opposed to the whole program? Junie, other posters have said that wouldn't work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Our plans: Reading Lessons Through Literature, adding English Lessons Through Literature when he's ready Miquon and Ray's Singing Made Easy and Piano with Daddy Bible Study Guide For All Ages A million art things Leaving the following options open: MFW Learning God's Story or KONOS or SOTW+BFSU. I don't know if he'll want that but we do a lot of memory work, songs, magic school bus and the like so I don't feel like we're lacking in content. He'll be in kindergarten or 1st. I'll figure that out at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ikslo, why German and why only MCT grammar as opposed to the whole program? Junie, other posters have said that wouldn't work well. German - because that's what I know, and I think starting a foreign language early is good for the brain. DS likes it well enough, but knows he can change to something else later on if he really wants to. Like high xchool. Maybe. LOL MCT is the whole program. We're doing MCT know, and he's really liking it. The Grammar was just what I had it under on my spreadsheet. I just come away feeling that it's not enough of the how to instruction that DS needs. We'll see as the year progresses. I've seen a lot of reviews where people add on writing and spelling. I may not need the writing, but I do feel like DS is weakest in writing right now. BW style wouldn't work here. Loving BA. Yes, you need the workbooks. The MiF workbooks would just be when I see he needs extra practice. They would not be a Must. Get. Done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 German - because that's what I know, and I think starting a foreign language early is good for the brain. DS likes it well enough, but knows he can change to something else later on if he really wants to. Like high xchool. Maybe. LOL MCT is the whole program. We're doing MCT know, and he's really liking it. The Grammar was just what I had it under on my spreadsheet. I just come away feeling that it's not enough of the how to instruction that DS needs. We'll see as the year progresses. I've seen a lot of reviews where people add on writing and spelling. I may not need the writing, but I do feel like DS is weakest in writing right now. BW style wouldn't work here. Loving BA. Yes, you need the workbooks. The MiF workbooks would just be when I see he needs extra practice. They would not be a Must. Get. Done. Thanks. I really like the looks of MCT, ELTL and TWSS. I collect opinions when possible. I can't seem to get a grasp on MCT's writing philosophy though. I just like his grammar, poetry, and vocabulary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Can you be more specific as to why the workbooks are needed? I was hoping to use this as a fun supplement for my older kids, but I know that they won't want to do the workbooks. However, I think that they could benefit from the way certain concepts are explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Don't sit in the cheap seats Edited May 22, 2016 by texasmama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ack! Stop all this homeschooling talk. You would think that we were here to actually school our kids or something. My kids are being taught and raised by wolves. They can howl in three languages. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I copied your post, Isklo, and added what my current 4th grader is doing for comparison. I am more in the Lynn and Junie slacker school. (old, tired, too many kids) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ack! Stop all this homeschooling talk. You would think that we were here to actually school our kids or something. My kids are being taught and raised by wolves. They can howl in three languages. Do your kids actually speak 3 languages? I want mine to be able to speak Spanish and eventually read Greek and Latin. Maybe English too. I haven't decided. Any tips? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ikslo, I'm not intimately familiar with everything you have chosen, so take this with a grain of salt. I always risk outing myself as a slacker because I almost always think that other people's plans look like too much. :D I have no problem if you decide to drop the penmanship, but I doubt it takes long and you might like it a lot. I generally have spent more time on history than science, and I'm not recommending you do that, but I'm saying I think it's hard to do a full program for both - usually something has to give. But I'm not familiar with Supercharged Science - it might be super efficient. Also, I poked around HO level 2 at one time, but I don't remember how heavy the work load is for level 1. Is it possible you don't even need a writing program alongside it? And lastly, how much of a step up in workload is it from what you're doing now? I'm guessing you have an idea of how much time per day and how many days per week you'll spend on each subject? I'm not suggesting you following a rigid schedule, but put it all on paper as if you were - does it work? Also, you have two maths - which is fantastic, nice programs, etc., but take that into account as you look at time usage. For myself, having a really solid (demanding?) program in every subject felt overwhelming to me after 6 - 10 weeks. It helped me to decide ahead which subjects were "get 'er done" and which ones would receive more of my focus. Hope I'm not coming across negatively. It's a great line up! You have the benefit of homeschooling an only which allows you to bring focus and enthusiasm across more subjects, but you work too. If you think I'm a horrible human being because I've rained on your parade, I'm sorry. If you think I'm a horrible human being because I'm a slacker, I can live with that. :D The only thing different really is adding on either the extra history workbook or the writing strands. He needs more writing, but I'm not sure where to add that where it makes the most sense for him. He loves history, so I thought maybe there, but he might revolt if I mess with his favorites. Science -we do a lot of science, and he asked for more hands on next year. I'm okay with that. I'm thinking lose the handwriting and history workbook. Do the writing strands and incorporate handwriting into that. Art and coding are only a few days per week. Hmmmm. Oh, and the German is what we have for this year, spread out over 2 years, so it's not as strenuous as it sounds. 15-30 minutes per day at most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Word. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I copied your post, Isklo, and added what my current 4th grader is doing for comparison. I am more in the Lynn and Junie slacker school. (old, tired, too many kids) Are you calling me an old, tired slacker with too many kids?!?! Finally, someone gets me!! :lol: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That was directed at Jean's post. I don't even know what it means. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I copied your post, Isklo, and added what my current 4th grader is doing for comparison. I am more in the Lynn and Junie slacker school. (old, tired, too many kids) I don't think that reads as less, especially with her extracurriculars. Just different. Does she like the writing you are doing? Pros/cons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Are you calling me an old, tired slacker with too many kids?!?! Finally, someone gets me!! :lol: I feel you, Junie! You and I and Lynn now have a club. We will meet whenever we feel like it and get around to it at the library or Sonic because no one can clean her house. :lol: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't think that reads as less, especially with her extracurriculars. Just different. Does she like the writing you are doing? Pros/cons? No language or geography. She does not object too much to Writing Tales. I love, love, love WT, and it has worked well with all of my three students, a rarity. It is primarily independent. It is classical. You can find me on the boards singing the praises of Writing Tales, which I think is an underutilized program. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I need more ideas on getting rid of fruit flies. Getting rid of fruit does not help much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Do your kids actually speak 3 languages? I want mine to be able to speak Spanish and eventually read Greek and Latin. Maybe English too. I haven't decided. Any tips? No My kids do not speak 3 languages. They speak English. Quite well. Both have a smattering of Japanese but have broken my heart by abandoning the language of my youth. Ds knows Latin. It is dead. He doesn't speak it. He hasn't done anything with it in a year. He's probably forgotten all of it. Dd is learning Spanish. I have no tips on anything educational. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Can you be more specific as to why the workbooks are needed? I was hoping to use this as a fun supplement for my older kids, but I know that they won't want to do the workbooks. However, I think that they could benefit from the way certain concepts are explained. I just think that a lot of the a ha! moments have come by doing the workbooks. There really is just as much to learn there as there is the comics. The comics explain. The problems make you use it. It's not just a regurgitation. It's like, here's what you need to know to solve the problems. But you need to think now, and apply it. I really think for my non-maths kid it is sufficient as a stand alone. The MiF would be for occasional extra practice and or a break from the routine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I need more ideas on getting rid of fruit flies. Getting rid of fruit does not help much. Move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 No My kids do not speak 3 languages. They speak English. Quite well. Both have a smattering of Japanese but have broken my heart by abandoning the language of my youth. Ds knows Latin. It is dead. He doesn't speak it. He hasn't done anything with it in a year. He's probably forgotten all of it. Dd is learning Spanish. I have no tips on anything educational. You don't think Latin has been beneficial? I need to start a thread on this at some point. Latin vs Greek, the benefits of each and why people choose one over the other. People keep saying that teaching Latin is fun. Do you know what else is fun? Not teaching Latin. At some point I need to decide how important that actually is to me. Greek is very important, but the classical/vocabulary/grammar aspect is really just an added bonus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 My 4th grader is doing: HWT Cursive, Singapore Math, FLL, IEW SWI A, SOTW 4, Spelling Power (level E right now) and Apologia's Physics/Chem in the Exploring series. No foreign language. Art is the occasional project. I drag him to a lot of museums/historical sites and we watch a number of documentaries. He is 2E, so everything is adapted/modified on the list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I need more ideas on getting rid of fruit flies. Getting rid of fruit does not help much. This, but with a banana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm not a slacker. I'm Multum non Multa. Just sayin. :laugh: We get through the stuff in my signature without too much grief and teeth gnashing. Next year's list should look about the same, just with CW Maxim instead of Homer and I think I can stand to add some Logic next year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 My 4th grader is doing: Abeka Grammar and Spelling Abeka math/moving into Saxon 5/4 BJU Bible miscellaneous geography minimal science "do-it-yourself" art "whatever-she-wants-to" writing (She likes to write.) her own handwriting (She's a lefty; I'm not. She seems to be doing fine.) playing -- lots of playing I think that your plan looks fine, but it does seem like an awful lot of curriculum. If you're doing all of that every day, I think it's too much and your ds will try to find out where Junie's Minimalist Homeschool is. However, if this is about how much you've used this year, you might not have a mutiny and you're going to end up with one bright kid!! :) Gasp! No history? What would I read to him while he's taking a bath????? It's his favorite part of the night! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm not a slacker. I'm Multum non Multa. Just sayin. :laugh: We get through the stuff in my signature without too much grief and teeth gnashing. Next year's list should look about the same, just with CW Maxim instead of Homer and I think I can stand to add some Logic next year. Is there a way to see signatures on one's phone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Is there a way to see signatures on one's phone? Hit Full Version at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 You don't think Latin has been beneficial? I need to start a thread on this at some point. Latin vs Greek, the benefits of each and why people choose one over the other. People keep saying that teaching Latin is fun. Do you know what else is fun? Not teaching Latin. At some point I need to decide how important that actually is to me. Greek is very important, but the classical/vocabulary/grammar aspect is really just an added bonus. Sigh. You are forcing me to talk school. Yes, Latin has been beneficial. But I don't think it is absolutely essential. Dd is choosing to not do Latin. She has different strengths and different interests. Ds has benefited from Latin in that I think it has aided his English vocabulary, and his logical thinking skills and even his ability to learn future languages in the future. (I don't think that someone who does not take Latin is doomed to have a rotten English vocabulary,, no logical thinking skills or no ability to learn other languages.) For the record, I took Latin in high school (and barely passed) but found it helpful when I took Greek in seminary. Conversely, when I helped ds with his Latin (at first - later he had a tutor), my more recent Greek helped me to explain Latin grammar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hit Full Version at the bottom. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Move. It may come to that. Why do they like my bathroom? They stare at me from the mirror (ala "The Birds) and I can usually squish one or two with a tissue or Q-tip box whenever I'm in there. Is it dh's new shaving oil? Tea tree oil? The new toothpaste dispenser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This, but with a banana. I have one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom and they work great, but the flies are never ending. I can catch 40 every day for all eternity. Wish there was a market for them. Dd9 suggested we start a praying mantis colony and let them roam free in the house. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sigh. You are forcing me to talk school. Yes, Latin has been beneficial. But I don't think it is absolutely essential. Dd is choosing to not do Latin. She has different strengths and different interests. Ds has benefited from Latin in that I think it has aided his English vocabulary, and his logical thinking skills and even his ability to learn future languages in the future. (I don't think that someone who does not take Latin is doomed to have a rotten English vocabulary,, no logical thinking skills or no ability to learn other languages.) For the record, I took Latin in high school (and barely passed) but found it helpful when I took Greek in seminary. Conversely, when I helped ds with his Latin (at first - later he had a tutor), my more recent Greek helped me to explain Latin grammar. I'm so sorry! Not really. Thank you for your input, especially that last part about Latin being beneficial for Greek and vice versa. Tee hee, see what I did there? I'm so clever. I plan to get Greek pretty down before we begin Latin so that's awesome. It may come to that. Why do they like my bathroom? They stare at me from the mirror (ala "The Birds) and I can usually squish one or two with a tissue or Q-tip box whenever I'm in there. Is it dh's new shaving oil? Tea tree oil? The new toothpaste dispenser? Water and light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I have one in the kitchen and one in the bathroom and they work great, but the flies are never ending. I can catch 40 every day for all eternity. Wish there was a market for them. Dd9 suggested we start a praying mantis colony and let them roam free in the house. http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/fruit_fly.htm The fact that you mentioned the bathroom made me think that you should scroll down to where it talks about drains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Gasp! No history? What would I read to him while he's taking a bath????? It's his favorite part of the night! No, I guess I really haven't done much history with her yet. We did the Abeka 3rd grade history last year. That's the only Abeka history that I can stand. We sometimes do read alouds at lunch, and sometimes those are history. Sigh. I think we found a gap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 You don't think Latin has been beneficial? I need to start a thread on this at some point. Latin vs Greek, the benefits of each and why people choose one over the other. People keep saying that teaching Latin is fun. Do you know what else is fun? Not teaching Latin. At some point I need to decide how important that actually is to me. Greek is very important, but the classical/vocabulary/grammar aspect is really just an added bonus. :iagree: to the bolded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I like teaching Latin. Greek spelling gives me hives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So I went through little dd's clothes and got three bags of give aways and they are headed to a friend tomorrow. Got down her history/lit combo for next year so I can examine it and see how much I want to mess with it. I have sent the weekly email to my English class, which resumes on Friday. Little dd's written work folder is full and ready. Game on. I'm still trying to plan dd16's school for this year. Currently working on this week's schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Critterfixer Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Tonight I'm listening to music with a Celtic sound for writing inspiration. Listening to a beautiful piece by BrunuhVille called Mists of Avalon. ETA: Booyah! Edited January 4, 2016 by Critterfixer 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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