McCain Pro-home schooling

[TXMomof4]

 

With the economy in the state it is in, the fuel and environmental crises that are going on, our country's position in the world, and people's rights in danger, there are many more important problems to worry about than whether or not someone else (not you) has an abortion or another couple (not you) has equal rights under the law.

 

While I respect everyone's reasons for voting any way they choose, I think that voting because one wants the rights of others to be taken away (which is IMHO exactly what a vote for John McCain is) is against my principles as an American.

 

 

It's funny, because I see voting for Obama as voting because one wants the rights of others to be taken away. What a mixed up world we live in!

 

Part of McCain's economic plan calls for DECREASED SPENDING!!!! Isn't that a much better idea than raising taxes so we become used to that level of taxation, so when the problems still exist 10 years down the road, we raise taxes again, because after all people aren't hurting *that bad*.

 

Of course, I'll be the first to say, I don't trust McCain further than I could throw him. That's why I'm in such a snit tizzy this election. I hate this!

[Academy of Jedi Arts]

What about protecting the rights of an unborn child?

 

What about taking away their right to live?

 

When they come up with a way to remove a fetus in tact and keep the cells alive so that the mother, who is protected against any present or future liability where that fetus in concerned, does not have to use her body to ensure that fetus does grow into a child that could live outside the womb- and we make this procedure readily available and relatively affordable to all who choose it, I might consider anti-abortion legislation- maybe.

 

I totally respect your views on the subject though, and myself have and will continue to do tangible things to reduce the number of women seeking abortions.

[mcconnellboys]

I know! I was impressed with his comments on education - now if he had just added "bomb all state departments of education", he wouldn'd have sounded exactly like me, LOL!

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

finding out what both stand for. It seems as though whenever I ask an Obama supporter what he stands for, I get this vague "change" answer. That just doesn't sit well with me. Frankly, I think they are BOTH terrible choices. I don't know how on earth McCain got the nomination, either. It just stuns me that in this great country of ours, we have to choose between "the lesser of two evils" time and time again. It shouldn't be that way.

 

There are just so many serious issues we have in this country right now. I just can not, with good conscious vote for "change". It feels too much like the naive reaction of a new college student voter.

 

Is McCain the answer. I don't think so, either. At this point, I am not going to vote for either one. I still have some thinking to do based on some of the serious issues raised here regarding the homeschooling issue. I have heard about the UN issue and all the problems with Germany. Frankly, it's very scary.

 

Another point I think is worth thinking about. McCain literally put his life on the line for our country. Obama's dedication to this country is, at best, questionable. I just can't believe someone can be married to someone who "has never been proud of this country" and not have at least a little of that soak into your subconscious.

 

I don't fault anyone voting for whomever they feel is the best candidate. I'm not here to tell you your vote is wrong. I am just trying to figure out my own conscious and how to best use my one and only vote.

 

This has been a really interesting thread, and I hope everyone reads all the comments with an open mind. My mind is not made up.

 

Hot Lava Mama

 

Well, if I believed those things, I would NEVER vote for Obama. My mind would be made up, unless I was tossing around the idea of third party. There's NO WAY, if those things are true, that he would *ever* get my vote. I wouldn't be asking questions for clarification -- that would simply be *that*.

 

I guess I see a life of public service as a pretty strong indicator of dedication to one's country. I can't imagine how one can see that as questionable. As for Mrs. Obama, I think even Laura Bush was moved to answer her detractors directly.

 

But honestly? A whole lot could change for me between now and election day. I'm pretty sure McCain will choose a pro-choice VP -- his campaign is sure hinting hard enough in that direction. And who knows who Obama will choose as his running mate. That will provide more info for me as I go into the election booth in the fall. Seeing as how I as a progressive-leaning citizen voted in the Republican primary in last week's election, I really do take my independent status quite seriously.

 

As to what other voters think, well, consider asking the average church-goer what they believe. You get some pretty vague answers sometimes. Often people don't have the energy for what they see as inevitable debate. Often their own leanings are not fully articulated. If you only see a vote for Sen. Obama as a vague vote for change, then it would of course be silly to vote for him.

 

I'm still pretty ticked that McCain wasn't elected in 2000. But I'm pretty sure I can't vote for him this time. Pretty sure. Not completely.

[ShelzNH]

Obama is not "against" home schooling but he is not overly supportive either.

 

Here are a few links that may interest some..

 

http://spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-position-on-homeschooling.html

 

 

 

Wow! I didn't know that Spunky was back! I really missed reading her blog. :)

[keptwoman]

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[Mom-ninja.]

I have heard about the UN issue and all the problems with Germany. Frankly, it's very scary.

 

 

 

Ok, what's going on in Germany regarding the UN?

[Erica in PA]

While I respect everyone's reasons for voting any way they choose, I think that voting because one wants the rights of others to be taken away (which is IMHO exactly what a vote for John McCain is) is against my principles as an American.

 

Voting for McCain because one wants the rights of others to be taken away? What do you mean??

 

Erica

[Mrs Mungo]

I seriously doubt anyone here is going to change their views on abortion or school vouchers or domestic spying or any of the issues that *are actually at stake in this election* based on what someone here says.

 

Roe v. Wade is not going to be overturned, even McCain is against doing so (he's said more than once he doesn't want women turning to "illegal operations"). Homeschooling is not at risk to come under federal control.

 

Those are red herrings.

 

People should inform themselves on more than one or two issues and figure out which candidate's views are a best fit with their own.

 

http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008

 

The two biggies on the issues:

 

http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm

 

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

 

Top third-party candidates on the issues:

 

http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

 

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bob_Barr.htm

 

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Gravel.htm

[astrid]

What she said!

 

WHAT they BOTH said!

 

Astrid

[astrid]

Obama just scares me. He just comes across as totally dishonest. I think he has WAY too many skeletons in his closet for my taste. McCain just seems human to me.

 

That is what I have liked about GW. He has made mistakes and done things wrong (who hasn't?), but I like that he is just a man. I also respect him for standing up for what he believes in, even though it makes him unpopular. He is doing a VERY difficult job, and has done it through some of the worst times this country has seen, and he is just doing the best he can. I have to commend him for that.

 

OH MY. There is so much I could say. But I won't. Except that no one scares me more than McCain. He makes my blood run cold.

 

But what I really don't get, what I never have understood, is this: HOW can those who are so religious, so grounded in the black and white of right and wrong, so rooted in faith, STILL support a man who has LIED so many times? And with such consequences?

 

I'm not trying to start a debate here, I'm really not. But I just don't understand how these documented travesties are justified and supported? Really.....if you are a Bush supporter, how do you reconcile these things in your own mind and conscience? I asked a fundamental Christian once. She smiled and said that she voted for Bush because she didn't like Clinton. Huh? They didn't run against each other! So please, can't someone give me a better answer?

[melmac]

I'm right there with ya, this is a scary election isn't it?

 

 

 

 

I just found it interesting that McCain seemed more supportive. Not to start a debate..I personally don't like either one of them. I am just trying to figure out which of them is the lesser of two evils...

:001_smile:

[anissarobert]

They may both be bad choices, but one of them will be our next president. In my mind it comes down to who can do the most damage, and that is a hard way to have to make a decision. It would be nice if occasionally I had a chance to vote for a presidental candidate who actually inspires me, but I have not had that privilage.

[Chelle in MO]

Neither candidate is my favorite, but I don't think I'd ever REALLY like anyone who runs for president. People I'd be in favor of for president wouldn't be able to stomach the process they'd have to go through to get there!

 

The socialistic leanings of the U.S. in general are frightening to me, and things are only getting worse in that regard. I cannot understand why people don't want to be free and independent, but instead want to have a caretaker making decisions about their lives.

 

It seems as if too many people haven't considered the long-term implications of having the government in charge of their daily lives. Or maybe they have and want it that way--that would be even worse.

 

I definitely won't vote for Obama, and McCain isn't a whole lot different from him in my mind. It's a sad thing to consider voting for someone just so someone else won't win.

 

Chelle

[Academy of Jedi Arts]

Voting for McCain because one wants the rights of others to be taken away? What do you mean??

 

Erica

 

McCain wants to amend the Constitution to deprive people of their rights. I can also not imagine he is going to try to restore any of our Constitutional rights (like oh, maybe 9 of the first 10 amendments) that Bush took away in the name of "homeland security".

 

McCain might talk out of both sides of his mouth, but I strongly believe that he will use his Supreme Court appointments to put people on that bench that will overturn Roe v. Wade.

[BlueGator]

I tend to be a two issue voter pro-life and pro-hsing. Obama leaves me cold on both issues and McCain is at best lukewarm. Thus I have no horse or dog or man in this race :eek: I hate election seasons like this :glare:

 

:iagree:

 

In my humble opinion these candidates are a direct result of dumbing down from the PS school systems.

 

I think the dumbing down has trickled up!

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

:iagree:

 

In my humble opinion these candidates are a direct result of dumbing down from the PS school systems.

 

I think the dumbing down has trickled up!

 

 

Neither went to public schools. Sen. McCain graduated from Episcopal High in Alexandria, VA (BooHiss EHS, Go Woodberry!) and Sen. Obama graduated from Punahou Schools. Nor did George W. Bush, for that matter. Only the best of the private schools for them.

 

Bill Clinton, now, he was a public school kid, good ol' Hot Springs High. But he was the Rhodes scholar, the cheeky devil.

 

One is fooling oneself -- IMO -- if one writes off a USNA grad and a former Harvard law grad (and president of Harvard Law Review, to boot) as "dumb."

[Mrs Mungo]

Neither went to public schools. Sen. McCain graduated from Episcopal High in Alexandria, VA (BooHiss EHS, Go Woodberry!) and Sen. Obama graduated from Punahou Schools. Nor did George W. Bush, for that matter. Only the best of the private schools for them.

 

Bill Clinton, now, he was a public school kid, good ol' Hot Spring High. But he was the Rhodes scholar, the cheeky devil.

 

One is fooling oneself -- IMO -- if one writes off a USNA grad and a former Harvard law grad (and president of Harvard Law Review, to boot) as "dumb."

 

Said USNA grad was ranked #894 out of 899 students...and his dad and grandfather were both Admirals, it's not like he wasn't going to graduate. Not that it matters, really...I'm just sayin'. ;)

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

Said USNA grad was ranked #894 out of 899 students...and his dad and grandfather were both Admirals, it's not like he wasn't going to graduate. Not that it matters, really...I'm just sayin'. ;)

 

Yeah, I know. Also not like he wasn't going to get in in the first place. But if you graduate from medical school 899 out of 899, they still call you doctor! LOL

[Mrs Mungo]

Yeah, I know. Also not like he wasn't going to get in in the first place. But if you graduate from medical school 899 out of 899, they still call you doctor! LOL

 

So true!! :lol:

[Meljoy]

 

McCain might talk out of both sides of his mouth, but I strongly believe that he will use his Supreme Court appointments to put people on that bench that will overturn Roe v. Wade.

 

This would be reason enough for me to vote for him.

 

And even if is not true - I do strongly believe he will do less damage than Obama on this issue.

[Erica in PA]

McCain wants to amend the Constitution to deprive people of their rights.

 

 

Could you please be more specific? I'm not sure that speaking in such general terms, about a topic so inflammatory (accusing a candidate of seeking to "deprive people of their rights"), is helpful. It sounds suspiciously like scare tactics.

 

If you are talking specifically about abortion, why not come out and say so. Or are you purposely being vague so that people will think there is a more far-reaching danger with McCain? Many, many people do not consider abortion a "Constitutional right", so that argument will only go so far. And for that matter, McCain has even alluded to the fact that he would not want Roe V. Wade overturned anyway, much as I would like to see that happen. So I can't see how it's reasonable to say that McCain wants to get elected so he can "take our rights away."

 

Erica

[BlueGator]

Neither went to public schools. Sen. McCain graduated from Episcopal High in Alexandria, VA (BooHiss EHS, Go Woodberry!) and Sen. Obama graduated from Punahou Schools. Nor did George W. Bush, for that matter. Only the best of the private schools for them.

 

Bill Clinton, now, he was a public school kid, good ol' Hot Springs High. But he was the Rhodes scholar, the cheeky devil.

 

One is fooling oneself -- IMO -- if one writes off a USNA grad and a former Harvard law grad (and president of Harvard Law Review, to boot) as "dumb."

 

I was refering to the voting public who voted in the primaries.

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

I was refering to the voting public who voted in the primaries.

 

Hmm. Well, in our house two votes were from public school grads and one from a private school grad. (And that last one was homeschooled part of his life, so there's that.) We didn't do any write-ins.

 

I'm not sure how to take this, but I assume you don't mean it as an insult to us on this board personally. ?? I know I don't have as good an education as some here, but as a member of the voting public, I do *try* to explore the issues and the records of the candidates.

 

If I'm misunderstanding once again, please accept my apologies. I'm just fuzzy about what you mean here.

[BlueGator]

Neither went to public schools. Sen. McCain graduated from Episcopal High in Alexandria, VA (BooHiss EHS, Go Woodberry!) and Sen. Obama graduated from Punahou Schools. Nor did George W. Bush, for that matter. Only the best of the private schools for them.

 

Bill Clinton, now, he was a public school kid, good ol' Hot Springs High. But he was the Rhodes scholar, the cheeky devil.

 

One is fooling oneself -- IMO -- if one writes off a USNA grad and a former Harvard law grad (and president of Harvard Law Review, to boot) as "dumb."

 

I was referring to the voting public not the candidates. It is very clear that both candidates are slick, I just don't think they are the best choices to lead America.

 

I don't question the candidates educations, I question their agendas and ability to lead.

[Pam "SFSOM" in TN]

I was referring to the voting public not the candidates. It is very clear that both candidates are slick, I just don't think they are the best choices to lead America.

 

I don't question the candidates educations, I question their agendas and ability to lead.

 

I misunderstood.

[BlueGator]

Hmm. Well, in our house two votes were from public school grads and one from a private school grad. (And that last one was homeschooled part of his life, so there's that.) We didn't do any write-ins.

 

I'm not sure how to take this, but I assume you don't mean it as an insult to us on this board personally. ?? I know I don't have as good an education as some here, but as a member of the voting public, I do *try* to explore the issues and the records of the candidates.

 

If I'm misunderstanding once again, please accept my apologies. I'm just fuzzy about what you mean here.

 

I am a graduate of the PS system. I think it is best not to discuss it any further.

[Kelli in TN]

 

McCain might talk out of both sides of his mouth, but I strongly believe that he will use his Supreme Court appointments to put people on that bench that will overturn Roe v. Wade.

 

If only I thought that were truly possible. That might be enough to swing my vote over to him in spite of his seemingly war hawk intentions.

 

But I don't believe Roe V Wade will ever be overturned. I don't think we can roll that snowball back up the hill.

 

I realize you say that as being a point against McCain, but for me that would be a point in his favor.

 

But it is unrealistic to hope for that. Our better fight right now is to slow down the rate of abortions performed. We can do that by assuring that at least babies who have made it to late pregnancy are safe and by giving women support when they make the choice for life.

 

Honestly I am just trying to figure out under which candidate the least amount of people, unborn to adult, might be killed.

[TXMomof4]

OH MY. There is so much I could say. But I won't. Except that no one scares me more than McCain. He makes my blood run cold.

 

But what I really don't get, what I never have understood, is this: HOW can those who are so religious, so grounded in the black and white of right and wrong, so rooted in faith, STILL support a man who has LIED so many times? And with such consequences?

 

I'm not trying to start a debate here, I'm really not. But I just don't understand how these documented travesties are justified and supported? Really.....if you are a Bush supporter, how do you reconcile these things in your own mind and conscience? I asked a fundamental Christian once. She smiled and said that she voted for Bush because she didn't like Clinton. Huh? They didn't run against each other! So please, can't someone give me a better answer?

 

I'm going to put my neck right out here on the line. Be kind after you shout, "OFF WITH HER HEAD". I support President Bush. I voted for him twice. I wish he could come back here and be governor again after he's finished (not that he would have any desire for that).

 

Everyone accuses him of lying to get us into Iraq. The only reason we're in Iraq is for oil. He's evil.

 

The fact is I truly think he's an idealist. When he was governor here in TX he was completely able to work with both sides - his good ol' boy persona was exactly what was needed to pull people together here. I think he just completely underestimated the battle against right/left in Washington.

 

As far as him lying - if it's about the WMD, just stop. They were there, there was proof of them being used, they've found all sorts of chemical weapons. Now, is it the level that we were led to believe? Nope. Personally, I do believe they were moved to Syria. But EVEN IF THEY WEREN"T Bush was acting on valid intelligence.

 

As far as it being for oil, where's the benefit to anyone? Really?

 

I think people are just expecting to see evil, so they see it. I see a man who was trying to do the right thing. He saw the opportunity to free a country from oppression and to further our own interests at the same time and he went for it. I think he was a little naieve (sp?). He has had some bad advice (military advice) since then, but I truly believe he went into with the best of intentions.

 

So - let it begin....::ducking and running::

[Jennifer3141]

I think what you are saying makes sense, but the US does not often follow the lead of the UN. For example, the death penalty. I don't honestly see the US putting itself in a position where they don't get to exert a lot of control over how things are going to go. Interesting that the US is screaming at Russia right now for attacking a sovereign nation. Iraq is a sovereign nation and the US did not have the support or a "go ahead" by the UN. The US did what they wanted to do.

 

:iagree:

 

We even execute citizens from other nations, despite protestations from those nations and the world. :glare:

 

Jen

[Gretchen in NJ]

Well being from the great state of IL I can tell you that Obama tried to put through legislation that would have made hsing almost impossible here. He was backing a bill that the NEA wanted and I remember the phone calls and letter writing that IL hsers had to do to keep that bill from passing. I am not a McCain fan by any means but I know what Obama did when he was at the state level and he was not in favor of hsing then. He may have changed his feathers since then but he did not ever vote in favor of anything that would help hsing or was pro-hsing in his home state.

 

Can I point to to something to read about this on the web..... no all of his state stuff has mysteriously disappeared. I really hope that we are all mature enough to not hand out negative rep for stating an opposing experience regarding Senator Obama and again I have no horse in this race. Of course his voting record on the state level matched his voting record on the national level lot and lots of present hardly any yeahs or nays, few bills if any that he actually wrote or backed.

I remember this as well. They always say actions speak louder then words. Maybe that is why he has voted present all of those times.

[SFP]

We even execute citizens from other nations, despite protestations from those nations and the world. :glare:

 

 

And the Bush administration overrode the Geneva Conventions and the U.S. Constitution when it wanted to torture.

[Hot Lava Mama]

brought up in this election? I believe McCain was a huge thorn in his side. Obama, obviously, is also the complete opposite of him. So, I guess I don't understand why a vote against Bush is necessarily for Obama. They would both do things very different from Bush. Remember, he can't run again.

[PameliaSue]

I'm going to put my neck right out here on the line. Be kind after you shout, "OFF WITH HER HEAD". I support President Bush. I voted for him twice. I wish he could come back here and be governor again after he's finished (not that he would have any desire for that).

 

Everyone accuses him of lying to get us into Iraq. The only reason we're in Iraq is for oil. He's evil.

 

The fact is I truly think he's an idealist. When he was governor here in TX he was completely able to work with both sides - his good ol' boy persona was exactly what was needed to pull people together here. I think he just completely underestimated the battle against right/left in Washington.

 

As far as him lying - if it's about the WMD, just stop. They were there, there was proof of them being used, they've found all sorts of chemical weapons. Now, is it the level that we were led to believe? Nope. Personally, I do believe they were moved to Syria. But EVEN IF THEY WEREN"T Bush was acting on valid intelligence.

 

As far as it being for oil, where's the benefit to anyone? Really?

 

I think people are just expecting to see evil, so they see it. I see a man who was trying to do the right thing. He saw the opportunity to free a country from oppression and to further our own interests at the same time and he went for it. I think he was a little naieve (sp?). He has had some bad advice (military advice) since then, but I truly believe he went into with the best of intentions.

 

So - let it begin....::ducking and running::

:iagree:

I couldn't have said that any better for myself. I am totally with you. Though.... not living in Texas.:D

[PameliaSue]

McCain wants to amend the Constitution to deprive people of their rights. I can also not imagine he is going to try to restore any of our Constitutional rights (like oh, maybe 9 of the first 10 amendments) that Bush took away in the name of "homeland security".

 

McCain might talk out of both sides of his mouth, but I strongly believe that he will use his Supreme Court appointments to put people on that bench that will overturn Roe v. Wade.

 

Could you please be more specific? I'm not sure that speaking in such general terms, about a topic so inflammatory (accusing a candidate of seeking to "deprive people of their rights"), is helpful. It sounds suspiciously like scare tactics.

 

If you are talking specifically about abortion, why not come out and say so. Or are you purposely being vague so that people will think there is a more far-reaching danger with McCain? Many, many people do not consider abortion a "Constitutional right", so that argument will only go so far. And for that matter, McCain has even alluded to the fact that he would not want Roe V. Wade overturned anyway, much as I would like to see that happen. So I can't see how it's reasonable to say that McCain wants to get elected so he can "take our rights away."

 

Erica

 

Yes, :iagree:... please be specific if you are going to accuse either candidate of taking away our constitutional rights or any other kind of accusation for that matter. Others have expressed "feelings" of doom and gloom or fear and that isn't enough to influence my vote and certainly makes it difficult to have a rational/factual discussion.

[Gretchen in NJ]

McCain wants to amend the Constitution to deprive people of their rights. I can also not imagine he is going to try to restore any of our Constitutional rights (like oh, maybe 9 of the first 10 amendments) that Bush took away in the name of "homeland security".

 

Could you please explain this and give some supporting information?

[Academy of Jedi Arts]

Could you please explain this and give some supporting information?

 

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/29/mccain-gay-marriage/

 

Here I why I loathe McCain- he used to be someone I could admire. I didn't agree with him all the time, but I thought he was bringing some respect back to the Republican party. But, recently he feels that catering to the right wing is more beneficial to him than listening to independents. So he is on my s&*^ list in a big way.

 

Not that I can't respect someone who does like him. Heck, my daughter used to like Bush for goodness sakes.

[Gretchen in NJ]

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/29/mccain-gay-marriage/

 

Here I why I loathe McCain- he used to be someone I could admire. I didn't agree with him all the time, but I thought he was bringing some respect back to the Republican party. But, recently he feels that catering to the right wing is more beneficial to him than listening to independents. So he is on my s&*^ list in a big way.

 

Not that I can't respect someone who does like him. Heck, my daughter used to like Bush for goodness sakes.

 

:confused:I am not for McCain by a long shot, but your link was about gay marriage for a very left leaning site. I don't get what that has to do your statement that McCain want to...... I am sorry I should have double quoted. I would go back, but my girls have been dying to go into the pool.

 

:confused:The 2nd Amendment is the right to bare arms. Gay Marriage?:confused: I don't see the link, sorry. I tend to not go to left or right sites.

 

Off to the pool.

[Academy of Jedi Arts]

:confused:I am not for McCain by a long shot, but your link was about gay marriage for a very left leaning site. I don't get what that has to do your statement that McCain want to...... I am sorry I should have double quoted. I would go back, but my girls have been dying to go into the pool.

 

:confused:The 2nd Amendment is the right to bare arms. Gay Marriage?:confused: I don't see the link, sorry. I tend to not go to left or right sites.

 

Off to the pool.

 

That site linked to sources.

 

Before: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/14/mccain.marriage/

 

After: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1779141&page=1

 

McCain wants to take away the rights of couples to marry. And he is not against using the Constitution to do it.

 

I know some people see gays as less than human, but I do not. I want my daughter and my grandchildren to grow up to be able to freely choose who to love and be able to have the same rights as everyone else.

[HSMom2One]

What on earth is in vitro violence? Shaking a test tube too hard? :confused:

 

My apologies, I used the word in vitro incorrectly...I meant violence in the womb, which takes place with abortion and/or domestic violence. If you are interested in reading about the early feminists views on abortion http://www.feministsforlife.org has a lot of information.

 

Blessings,

Lucinda

[Mrs Mungo]

As far as him lying - if it's about the WMD, just stop. They were there, there was proof of them being used, they've found all sorts of chemical weapons. Now, is it the level that we were led to believe? Nope. Personally, I do believe they were moved to Syria. But EVEN IF THEY WEREN"T Bush was acting on valid intelligence.

 

No, no he didn't act on valid intelligence. This has been proven.

 

As far as it being for oil, where's the benefit to anyone? Really?

 

I think people are just expecting to see evil, so they see it. I see a man who was trying to do the right thing. He saw the opportunity to free a country from oppression and to further our own interests at the same time and he went for it. I think he was a little naieve (sp?). He has had some bad advice (military advice) since then, but I truly believe he went into with the best of intentions.

 

I think the decision to invade Iraq was based on one premise. I think Bush thought if we defeated the biggest baddie in the region the rest of them would fall into line. He was mistaken on some counts and correct on others.

 

He absolutely did not receive bad miltary advice, his administration *chose to ignore* the advice the military gave him. There have been numerous books written and interviews given on this fact. eta: I find this reason enough to despise him.