tntgoodwin Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I am looking for more books with a similar message/theme/moral/values to what is in The Little Red Hen, and Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose. Similar reading level too. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyD Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I think of those two books as having rather different messages, but for the latter, on the theme of self-sacrifice Horton Hatches the Egg and The Giving Tree come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 You see Thidwick as promoting self-sacrifice for the greater good? Very interesting... I see the message as nearly the opposite of that lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 So...not Frederick or Stone Soup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 I am not familiar with that (those?)...could you tell me more about it/ them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) Stone Soup (share) George & Martha (Be nice to your friends, be honest) Strega Nona (Say please? I think it's say please...or thank you or something lol ) Bartholomew and the Oobleck (Don't be a jerk ;) Take responsibility) Are you looking for particular messages? Aesop’s Fables Edited July 17, 2011 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 So...not Frederick or Stone Soup?You should ETA, warning one not to read further until between sips of one's beverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) The Little Engine That Could, perhaps? How about the Ant and the Grasshopper? or some Dave Ramsey financial lessons? When I search for Ayn Rand under kid's books on amazon, I get Machiavelli's The Prince and Brampton Stoker's Dracula. The real question is, why is this considered a story at all? Edited July 16, 2011 by stripe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 You might like... Brave Irene by Steig (Never give up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I am not familiar with that (those?)...could you tell me more about it/ them? Frederick is by Leo Lionni (one of my favorites). Frederick is a mouse; the other mice find him sort of lazy. He is always daydreaming while they are toiling away, gathering food for the winter. However, when winter comes he entertains them and keeps their spirits up through the long winter. Stone Soup is about combining your resources to create something better than what you have alone. You should ETA, warning one not to read further until between sips of one's beverage. Sorry! The Little Engine That Could, perhaps? How about the Ant and the Grasshopper? or some Dave Ramsey financial lessons? When I search for Ayn Rand under kid's books on amazon, I get Machiavelli's The Prince and Brampton Stoker's Dracula. This seriously made me laugh. I actually find them wildly appropriate for the search terms. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 This seriously made me laugh. I actually find them wildly appropriate for the search terms. :D :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 These books have short stories with a moral message: http://www.amazon.com/Childrens-Book-Virtues-William-Bennett/dp/068481353X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1310850783&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Childrens-Book-Home-Family/dp/0439569575/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1310850869&sr=1-1 Folks seem to either love or deeply hate these moral type books from William Bennet. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nyssa Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Kevin Henkes: Lily's Purple Plastic Purse. His other books are good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 Frederick is by Leo Lionni (one of my favorites). Frederick is a mouse; the other mice find him sort of lazy. He is always daydreaming while they are toiling away, gathering food for the winter. However, when winter comes he entertains them and keeps their spirits up through the long winter. Stone Soup is about combining your resources to create something better than what you have alone. Sorry! This seriously made me laugh. I actually find them wildly appropriate for the search terms. :D That Stone Soup one sounds good. Not so sure about Frederick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Good ideas so far, and: Yertle the Turtle--sort of 'let he who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls' The Sneetches--anti racism. One of the best modern fables I know. Old Turtle--environmentalism. It makes me a bit uneasy, though. Preread. There is a great Dr. Suess book that is environmental--I can't remember the name, but it's one I recommend wholeheartedly. Grandpa Bear's Fantastic Scarf--make something good out of your life. What Did Jesus Do? -- two books from Concordia that have great embedding of Bible teachings in the middle of truly entertaining stories that apply them. Not smarmy but realistic. Hate: The Giving Tree--giving away yourself. No, this one goes waaaay too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Not so sure about Frederick.Only if one doesn't place value in a diversified economy. The other mice could have been short sighted and "let him dance" in the manner of the ant and the grasshopper, but they were open minded enough to come to realize that Frederick had a unique skill that would not only benefit the community through times of hardship and drudgery but also enrich their community. He was then able to leverage this skill to secure their blessing and gain sustenance for the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 That Stone Soup one sounds good.Not so sure about Frederick. Only if one doesn't place value in a diversified economy. The other mice could have been short sighted and "let him dance" in the manner of the ant and the grasshopper, but they were open minded enough to come to realize that Frederick had a unique skill that would not only benefit the community through times of hardship and drudgery but also enrich their community. He was then able to leverage this skill to secure their blessing and gain sustenance for the winter. :iagree: Leo Lionni is a prolific children's author and illustrator. Frederick seems to be defending authorship as a valuable skill and valid occupation. Not really a surprise, considering the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Not a simple "morals" book, but The Ox Cart Man (by Donald Hall) and his family are industrious the year through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Not a simple "morals" book, but The Ox Cart Man (by Donald Hall) and his family are industrious the year through. That's a favorite here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 If you don't mind a tale with a twist, there's The Wolf Who Cried Boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 If you don't mind a tale with a twist, there's The Wolf Who Cried Boy.Though I'm always put in mind of Garak's assessment (On DS9) that the moral is "you should never tell the same lie twice." :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 Thanks everyone! I will be checking all of these out (including Frederick!). Keep them coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 There is a great Dr. Suess book that is environmental--I can't remember the name, but it's one I recommend wholeheartedly. Is it The Lorax? I love that story. I like both Stone Soup and Fredrick. I like Ferdinand--just because you are a bull doesn't mean you want to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I really love My Rows and Piles of Coins by Tololwa Mollel, but I have no clue if it's the sort of message you're looking for. I think it's a nice tale of family love, and non-smarmy industriousness. Ther are tons of versions of Stone Soup, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Is it The Lorax? I love that story. Yes! That's the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) Petunia is a story about a prideful goose. The Twin Princes is about integrity. Bear Feels Sick is about friends who take care of each other. Edited July 17, 2011 by Sophia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treestarfae Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/Could-Always-Be-Worse-Yiddish/dp/0374436363/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1310856297&sr=8-2 http://www.amazon.com/Two-Everything-Lily-Toy-Hong/dp/0807581577/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1310856525&sr=1-1 The Ugly Duckling Beauty and the Beast Socks for Supper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourjourneys Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Old Turtle by Douglas Wood This is a book about peace that every boy and girl, man and woman should read :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 All of the Frances books by Lillian and Russell Hoban--they have non preachy messages about things like being a good friend, being a good older sister, eating your dinner, etc. For an older audience, Understood Betsy by Dorothy Cafield Fisher is a great one for the message of being a strong, confident, and kind person. Similarly, the Gammage Cup by Carol Kendall is a great one for why just following the crowd is a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 All of the Frances books by Lillian and Russell Hoban--they have non preachy messages about things like being a good friend, being a good older sister, eating your dinner, etc. For an older audience, Understood Betsy by Dorothy Cafield Fisher is a great one for the message of being a strong, confident, and kind person. Similarly, the Gammage Cup by Carol Kendall is a great one for why just following the crowd is a bad idea. I really enjoyed Frances when I was young. I, too, ran away to under the dining room table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I really enjoyed Frances when I was young. I, too, ran away to under the dining room table. :D That is our family joke from my childhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicAnn Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I think every children's book has a message of some kind. Some are more obvious. The Sneetches on the Beaches is one of my favorite. Especially for kids who might be too into material things or cliques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 How about Peter Rabbit / Benjamin Bunny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 How about My Mother is the Most Beautiful Woman in the World http://www.amazon.com/Mother-Most-Beautiful-Woman-World/dp/0688512518 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 There's "I'll Love You Forever" if you don't mind heavy-handed. Sneetches are the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The Gardener by Sarah Stewart (bloom where you are planted, giving, overlooking other people's faults) Mandy Sue Day by Roberta Karim (shows that disabled people can lead very full lives in spite of their disabilities) Weslandia by Paul Fleischman (be yourself, don't give in to peer pressure, entrepreneurial attitude, industriousness, creativity) It just occurred to me that these are picture books, not so much books for early readers. Still, I think they'd be worthwhile to share with a young child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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