Beebalm Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Anyone else do a double take about this? Where do you ask for permission? Who has the authority to okay sending spacecraft spiraling into the moon in search of water? I am admittedly ignorant about such things, but I've seen no one question the wisdom of doing so. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizzyBee Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 One of my facebook friends posted something about bombing the moon, and I thought it was a joke. I guess I need to go read the news and find out what I missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I thought I heard about this some time ago. Are they doing it again???? Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 No. You are not alone. I really don't care if there's is or was water on the moon. And yeah not all that thrilled with the notion of bombing something that affects our entire planet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebalm Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Oh, whew, it only cost 79 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Anyone else do a double take about this? Where do you ask for permission? Who has the authority to okay sending spacecraft spiraling into the moon in search of water? I am admittedly ignorant about such things, but I've seen no one question the wisdom of doing so. What do you think? I actually signed the permission slip. :lol: I didn't think they'd go through with it. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Virginia Dawn Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Is that what happened? I just assumed a meteor hit it. Now I'll have to go read about it for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What! I missed that! Not happy about that one at all. I've also read that China wants to go to the moon to mine for minerals! Leave the darn moon alone please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirch Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The question of if it's safe came up on GMA this morning and apparently, the moon gets slammed with all kids of stuff regularly due to the lack of atmosphere. They said there is talk of building a base up there, which is why they're hoping to find ice. If there's water, then they will have hydrogen and oxygen as well. i think that's what I heard. I might just be making that up.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 They said there is talk of building a base up there, which is why they're hoping to find ice. If there's water, then they will have hydrogen and oxygen as well. i think that's what I heard. I might just be making that up.:D You're not making it up. You heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What! I missed that! Not happy about that one at all. I've also read that China wants to go to the moon to mine for minerals! Leave the darn moon alone please! :lol: Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The question of if it's safe came up on GMA this morning and apparently, the moon gets slammed with all kids of stuff regularly due to the lack of atmosphere. They said there is talk of building a base up there, which is why they're hoping to find ice. If there's water, then they will have hydrogen and oxygen as well. i think that's what I heard. I might just be making that up.:D earth regularly gets hit with space debris too. I sure hope that logic doesn't apply to bombing earth. What would be the purpose of a moon base? Would we own it then? Like first to claim the new world or something? If it's a race - I want America to win! But really I'd rather everyone just leave our ocean-affecting nightlight alone entirely. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 earth regularly gets hit with space debris too. I sure hope that logic doesn't apply to bombing earth. What would be the purpose of a moon base? Would we own it then? Like first to claim the new world or something? If it's a race - I want America to win! But really I'd rather everyone just leave our ocean-affecting nightlight alone entirely. :) It is the first step on our way to Mars. I think the plan is that we would take off from the Moon. Please don't quoute me on the last part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Anyone else do a double take about this? Where do you ask for permission? Who has the authority to okay sending spacecraft spiraling into the moon in search of water? I am admittedly ignorant about such things, but I've seen no one question the wisdom of doing so. What do you think? We heard it on CSpan on our way to the library today. Ds said, 'but won't that mess up the way the tides work?' Amazing, my 8yo came up with an, imo, incredible and important question that I have yet to hear answered. What audacity to chuck a bomb on something that effects the entire planet. Sometimes I just ...... there are no words that I can put on here and still be a Queen Bee, so I'll keep mum :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I actually signed the permission slip. :lol: I didn't think they'd go through with it. :D :lol::lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnandtinagilbert Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 We heard it on CSpan on our way to the library today. Ds said, 'but won't that mess up the way the tides work?' Amazing, my 8yo came up with an, imo, incredible and important question that I have yet to hear answered. What audacity to chuck a bomb on something that effects the entire planet. Sometimes I just ...... there are no words that I can put on here and still be a Queen Bee, so I'll keep mum :glare: I couldn't agree more. We are rather arrogant. Humanity scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It is the first step on our way to Mars. I think the plan is that we would take off from the Moon. Please don't quoute me on the last part. I keep telling ds I'm shipping him to Mars someday (he'd make a fun astronaut). How about a homeschooling field trip. Sorry, Gretchen, quoted you on the whole thing, it was the only my comments would make sense. :confused: Okay, maybe my comments still don't make sense. (I'm so glad it's Friday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I keep telling ds I'm shipping him to Mars someday (he'd make a fun astronaut). How about a homeschooling field trip. Sorry, Gretchen, quoted you on the whole thing, it was the only my comments would make sense. :confused: Okay, maybe my comments still don't make sense. (I'm so glad it's Friday) I get words... brain mush Monday since, yes me. Lol, this will be a decompression weekend, I think my head may've blown a gasket or two ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 As a mom of 6 boys - you could have just randomly said it out of the blue and it would make perfect sense to me. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) I keep telling ds I'm shipping him to Mars someday (he'd make a fun astronaut). How about a homeschooling field trip. Sorry, Gretchen, quoted you on the whole thing, it was the only my comments would make sense. :confused: Okay, maybe my comments still don't make sense. (I'm so glad it's Friday) :lol::lol::lol: I heard that years and years ago. I am not sure that it is still true.;) Edited October 9, 2009 by Gretchen in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Gee, I thought it was kinda exciting. If they can find ice, a base is do-able. That would be so cool. Any base would probably end up being a multi-national venture similar to the space station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingM Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 We heard it on CSpan on our way to the library today. Ds said, 'but won't that mess up the way the tides work?' Amazing, my 8yo came up with an, imo, incredible and important question that I have yet to hear answered. What audacity to chuck a bomb on something that effects the entire planet. Sometimes I just ...... there are no words that I can put on here and still be a Queen Bee, so I'll keep mum :glare: How could bombing the moon possibly affect the tides? The mass of the moon is 73,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. It's big enough that it's 382,500 miles away and it can lift trillions of pounds of water high enough to create tides on the earth. You could explode every nuclear weapon ever created, every bomb ever made on the moon and it wouldn't do a darn thing. There's no atmosphere there to disturb, no ecosystem to destroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 How could bombing the moon possibly affect the tides? The mass of the moon is 73,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. It's big enough that it's 382,500 miles away and it can lift trillions of pounds of water high enough to create tides on the earth. You could explode every nuclear weapon ever created, every bomb ever made on the moon and it wouldn't do a darn thing. There's no atmosphere there to disturb, no ecosystem to destroy. You're absolutely right, the moon has nothing to do with our planet or the tides or anything of that sort. I will go flog my son immediately :) Heck, now that I think about it, the moon is just a blight on the sky and puts out some of the worst light pollution. We SHOULD just nuke it out of existence. Thank you, I have seen the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 You're absolutely right, the moon has nothing to do with our planet or the tides or anything of that sort. I will go flog my son immediately :) King did not say the moon had nothing to do with our planet or the tides. He said that bombing the moon was not going to throw it out of its orbit or affect its gravitational pull. We blow up things here on earth all the time and we don't worry how it affects the orbit of our planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 There's no atmosphere there to disturb, no ecosystem to destroy.Well, its feelings might get hurt. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well, its feelings might get hurt. :rolleyes: Yes, your moon does look rather pained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 How could bombing the moon possibly affect the tides? The mass of the moon is 73,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. It's big enough that it's 382,500 miles away and it can lift trillions of pounds of water high enough to create tides on the earth. You could explode every nuclear weapon ever created, every bomb ever made on the moon and it wouldn't do a darn thing. There's no atmosphere there to disturb, no ecosystem to destroy. crickey. You'll just have to forgive me for being less than thrilled with testing that theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Yes, your moon does look rather pained.:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy101 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 King did not say the moon had nothing to do with our planet or the tides. He said that bombing the moon was not going to throw it out of its orbit or affect its gravitational pull. We blow up things here on earth all the time and we don't worry how it affects the orbit of our planet. I don't think it'll be thrown out of orbit. Neither would I say it can't be damaged or polluted/contaminated. Just saying bombing the moon seems like a less than neccessary scientific goal. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) I don't think it'll be thrown out of orbit. Neither would I say it can't be damaged or polluted/contaminated. But King wasn't answering your post and neither was I. That's not to say it cannot be damaged but, again, we blow up stuff on our *own* planet all the time without a thought. Why is this different? eta: I'm just saying, these sound like emotional responses, not logical ones. Just saying bombing the moon seems like a less than neccessary scientific goal. :)Was going to the moon at all a *necessary* scientific goal? Is going to space a necessary scientific goal? Maybe not but I like my phone, digital cable, gps, weather information and the various ways of helping with my husband's work. Edited October 9, 2009 by Mrs Mungo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingM Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 You're absolutely right, the moon has nothing to do with our planet or the tides or anything of that sort. I will go flog my son immediately :) Your son asked a good question for a child. It's quite easy, however, to explain to him why nothing we do could affect the tides and thus assuage his fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 But King wasn't answering your post and neither was I. That's not to say it cannot be damaged but, again, we blow up stuff on our *own* planet all the time without a thought. Why is this different? eta: I'm just saying, these sound like emotional responses, not logical ones. Was going to the moon at all a *necessary* scientific goal? Is going to space a necessary scientific goal? Maybe not but I like my phone, digital cable, gps, weather information and the various ways of helping with my husband's work. We don't know where this might lead us. I can't help thinking about our early explorers. Can you image? We could still be thinking the world is flat without them. This is the next step for our modern day explorers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Was going to the moon at all a *necessary* scientific goal? Is going to space a necessary scientific goal? Maybe not but I like my phone, digital cable, gps, weather information and the various ways of helping with my husband's work. And don't forget "Tang" :D Bill (who's not actually fond of Tang) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbygirl Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 And don't forget "Tang" :D Bill (who's not actually fond of Tang) :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 And don't forget "Tang" :D Bill (who's not actually fond of Tang) A closet Tang drinker? Hmm... I would have never quessed it.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 A closet Tang drinker? Hmm... I would have never quessed it.;) Let's just say in my youth the "space-man" in me felt compelled to drink my fair-share of Tang (despite the fact that it was vile and disgusting :D) Bill :patriot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Let's just say in my youth the "space-man" in me felt compelled to drink my fair-share of Tang (despite the fact that it was vile and disgusting :D) Bill :patriot: Anything for sceince.:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbygirl Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Let's just say in my youth the "space-man" in me felt compelled to drink my fair-share of Tang (despite the fact that it was vile and disgusting :D) Bill :patriot: lol Don't feel bad Bill, I was duped too and felt it was my duty as a Floridian to support the space program by drinking that nasty stuff! lol Although we also drank Kool-aid, ate Twinkies and Little Debbie "snack" cakes. Jeez, what was my mom thinking!! :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 lol Don't feel bad Bill, I was duped too and felt it was my duty as a Floridian to support the space program by drinking that nasty stuff! lol Although we also drank Kool-aid, ate Twinkies and Little Debbie "snack" cakes. Jeez, what was my mom thinking!! :tongue_smilie: You didn't really say "Kool-aid" did you??? That's the kiss of death for this thread :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Anything for sceince.:001_smile: Something like that :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 You didn't really say "Kool-aid" did you??? That's the kiss of death for this thread :D Bill Did you drink Kool-aid too?:svengo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Did you drink Kool-aid too?:svengo: No. No. Not me :D 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Lift-off :lol: We have achieved lift-off Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingM Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 No. No. Not me :D 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Lift-off :lol: We have achieved lift-off Bill You're really quite naughty, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 You're really quite naughty, you know. Guilty as charged :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Is it just me, or does bombing the moon seem like part science, and in some measure a reminder to Ahmadinejad and Iran (and Russia, China, North Korea and others) that if we can bomb the moon that we can also... Too cynical? :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutor Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 They didn't bomb the moon as in "to attack with bombs" but as in "to hit very hard." NASA rammed a spent rocket, followed by its shepherding rocket, into the south pole of the moon to see if ice was released on impact. The impact was no greater than what the moon normally experiences 3-4 times per month from meteors, comets, etc.; it was just aimed at an area of interest to researchers. Three papers were recently published in the journal Science indicating the presence of water on the moon... a fascinating discovery considering that the moon was thought to be dry up until now. Some scientists appear to find the news desirable because it means that a research station could possibly be placed on the moon allowing us to then look more closely at the rest of our solar system (a much less costly proposition - both financially and environmentally, in the long run, than sending exploratory rockets from the earth's surface repeatedly). Others, like me, are just thrilled about what it could possibly teach us about the physical nature of our solar system as well as the discovery's potential for reigniting passion for scientific inquiry purely for knowledge's sake and not necessarily for any directly practical purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 They didn't bomb the moon as in "to attack with bombs" but as in "to hit very hard." NASA rammed a spent rocket, followed by its shepherding rocket, into the south pole of the moon to see if ice was released on impact. The impact was no greater than what the moon normally experiences 3-4 times per month from meteors, comets, etc.; it was just aimed at an area of interest to researchers. Three papers were recently published in the journal Science indicating the presence of water on the moon... a fascinating discovery considering that the moon was thought to be dry up until now. Some scientists appear to find the news desirable because it means that a research station could possibly be placed on the moon allowing us to then look more closely at the rest of our solar system (a much less costly proposition - both financially and environmentally, in the long run, than sending exploratory rockets from the earth's surface repeatedly). Others, like me, are just thrilled about what it could possibly teach us about the physical nature of our solar system as well as the discovery's potential for reigniting passion for scientific inquiry purely for knowledge's sake and not necessarily for any directly practical purpose. Oh sure. Use logic :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Is it just me, or does bombing the moon seem like part science, and in some measure a reminder to Ahmadinejad and Iran (and Russia, China, North Korea and others) that if we can bomb the moon that we can also... Too cynical? :D Bill Very cynical, but an interesting thought none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutor Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Oh sure. Use logic :D Bill :lol: Always happy to oblige! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Very cynical, but an interesting thought none the less. In all seriousness, most of the "space-race" was a "proxy-war" of sorts between us and the Soviet Union, which showed how we could destroy the world a thousand times over, while they could only do it a hundred time. Started out serious at least :D Bill (in a silly mood today) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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