Nan in Mass Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Mama Bear, I love your answer to Reya. You are right: she faces challenges with her son that most of us (Jenny and a few others excepted : ) ) probably can't even imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhondabee Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 :iagree: I especially like The Well-Trained Smackdown - props to the one who came up with it!! And we used The History of The Ancient World as part of a great study of Ancient History. I made up a schedule for it, Spielvogel, TTC Western Civ dvds, Smarr Ancient Lit, a few extra books and several writing assignments. It was a good year! Hey, shouldn't you have a blog? You know, where you share this priceless info for free? (Or, at least a Lulu book?) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liza Q Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Priceless? It boiled down to a table in Word - nothing fancy, really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in NS Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I think you have an order of magnitude more cheering talent than I do! ;) :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli in TN Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 And we used The History of The Ancient World as part of a great study of Ancient History. I made up a schedule for it, Spielvogel, TTC Western Civ dvds, Smarr Ancient Lit, a few extra books and several writing assignments. It was a good year! :bigear: Would you, could you, please, pretty please, consider sharing your schedule? As luck would have it I own Spielvogel and Smarr Ancients, so you can see that I would personally benefit from your experience. Can I wash your dishes for you while you type that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMindy Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 But you do look good in the suit. I've seen pictures :D LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanAR Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 In answer to the OP and a couple of others... The Norton history series is planned to go up through modern times. The Medieval History volume is in production for publication in February 2010...sorry, it's a ways off, but it's a big complicated book. SWB :001_huh::001_huh: Did i just commit to do laundry for a whole year???:tongue_smilie: SusanAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 You know what she should do? I hear that some authors of Christian magazines and such...have girls come live with them to help in the work of producing...cleaning...getting to live around a good brain for a while. I'm sure some young SWB fan would love to go see how the SWB family lives:-) Wouldn't that be fun.... NOW, instead of offering up yourselves...you can start offering your daughters:-) Carrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Reya, Put very gently, I think perhaps your experience and children are so very different from many others' that you'll want to consider using Susan's high school texts for them now. Best of luck keeping those punkins busy -- sounds like you'll have less than the usual eighteen years to enjoy them being at home and just doing family kinds of things. I just saw something about the ages that Reya has. Could it be the same person posting, with her oldest being 6? Maybe this is a bit like a mama with a 2month old giving parenting advice... a "wait and see" attitude by those with older children. I really can't believe that anyone who has a 6 year old... would speak of their child being so advanced. Wait for the 3rd grade leveling field. When a lot of kids just kinda level off. I mean, in 1st grade my child could explain multiplication...but she's not doing pre-calculus right now. Carrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverfront Headmistress Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 You know what she should do? I hear that some authors of Christian magazines and such...have girls come live with them to help in the work of producing...cleaning...getting to live around a good brain for a while. I'm sure some young SWB fan would love to go see how the SWB family lives:-) Wouldn't that be fun.... NOW, instead of offering up yourselves...you can start offering your daughters:-)Carrie Tempting. I only live 40 minutes from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I wouldn't use it unless she's learned an order of magnitude more about history than when she wrote her STOW. SOTW is okay for kids, but with historical errors (including glaring ones) so very frequent, I wouldn't use a book by the same author for later in school. As Lynx noted, I'm sure many here would appreciate being notified of any errors [especially "glaring ones"]. Maybe we could start a new thread about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I wouldn't use it unless she's learned an order of magnitude more about history than when she wrote her STOW. SOTW is okay for kids, but with historical errors (including glaring ones) so very frequent, I wouldn't use a book by the same author for later in school. You average high school textbook, though is probably worse. I'd use a text intended for college freshmen, written by actual history professors who at least have a lot of research in that general time period, if not specialist on everything they cover. are you for real, you bash a book written by the owner of the forum :confused1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan A. Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Late in the post, but dibs on the yardwork! Seriously, if you read her blog and see how much effort she puts into the research, how far she travels to get original sources and accurate information, plus the editing process with her publishers, you would find it hard to believe that any obvious or "glaring" errors could make it through all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hey All, Someone pm'md me to make me aware of my posts and how it represented what I thought about SWB's post, and that I was incorrect. If my posts looked like I thought SWB said anything inappropriate with her "knock it off" quote, I apologize! I meant that all of US should be nice. I'm sorry if I typed it incorrectly. More directly I agree, with Cafelattee, that it's incredibly rude to bash someone who hosts this for us. I find nothing wrong about pm'mng her(SWB) if you find an error, or even asking if a certain part it an error. BUT, those books are part of what helps this whole thing be paid for...and most of us treasure her books. Sorry, Carrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose in BC Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 When I started reading SOTW to my kiddies many moons ago, I was familiar with key names in history but I did not have a good understanding of history (nor did I care that I didn't have a good understanding of history) and definitely not in any chronological order. I knew the names, had no clue of their real impact in history. SOTW encouraged me to dig deeper into history because it created a hunger for history. I am thankful to Susan for many other things. Besides history Susan has inspired me to continue with my own learning. I spend time reading to train my own mind and to set an example for my kids. She has given me a foundation for building my own homeschool goals for my kiddies. When I first thought of homeschooling I had no idea where I would start. After reading the WTM I had the groundwork laid out for me and a vision I could work with. And most of all, after hearing her speak at a conference, I left completely encouraged that I could teach my children through high school. Thank you Susan for SOTW and all the other things you do to encourage homeschooling parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I just saw something about the ages that Reya has. Could it be the same person posting, with her oldest being 6? Maybe this is a bit like a mama with a 2month old giving parenting advice... a "wait and see" attitude by those with older children. I really can't believe that anyone who has a 6 year old... would speak of their child being so advanced. Wait for the 3rd grade leveling field. When a lot of kids just kinda level off. I mean, in 1st grade my child could explain multiplication...but she's not doing pre-calculus right now. Carrie ROTFL! Yes, same person. I guess you weren't around two years ago when Reya, then the mother of a 4-year old, was giving advice on the high school board. It boggles the mind. Ria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Knoll Mom Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 :001_huh: Oh dear! I hope you aren't too embarrassed to learn that said author provides these very boards. Glaring indeed. :rolleyes: :iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahamamama Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 :iagree: I especially like The Well-Trained Smackdown - props to the one who came up with it!! And we used The History of The Ancient World as part of a great study of Ancient History. I made up a schedule for it, Spielvogel, TTC Western Civ dvds, Smarr Ancient Lit, a few extra books and several writing assignments. It was a good year! Liza, Would you be willing to share this with interested persons? Please? :D If so, please PM me. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli in TN Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Liza, Would you be willing to share this with interested persons? Please? :D If so, please PM me. Thanks! Yes, please. If you do make this available to your brand new fan club, please send me a PM too. I'll wash your dishes for you!!:001_smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liza Q Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hmmm. Well, I will have time this weekend to see if I have it in any kind of order - I adjusted it as the year went on. I'll let you take a look at it after the weekend! It is short and sweet but I did find it helpful so - maybe someone else will, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) I really can't believe that anyone who has a 6 year old... would speak of their child being so advanced. Wait for the 3rd grade leveling field. When a lot of kids just kinda level off. I mean, in 1st grade my child could explain multiplication...but she's not doing pre-calculus right now.I know little and care not a whit about Reya's history on the boards. However, as the mother of an exceptionally bright child, I've found many of the comments directed towards Reya about her children in the last week hurtful. It's challenging trying to meet the educational needs of an exceptionally gifted child, and to be told "it's all in your mind dear" is patronizing at the least. Leveling out does occur, but it's a phenomena primarily associated with hothoused children, not truly gifted ones. My 7yo can read at at least a high school level (though most of her reading is middle school/YA). Are you suggesting that she'll regress to a third grade reading level at 8 years old? If you're interested in learning more about the reality of parenting exceptionally gifted children, I'd suggest visiting Hoagies Gifted. Edited March 20, 2009 by nmoira to add OT banner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I know little and care not a whit about Reya's history on the boards. However, as the mother of an exceptionally bright child, I've found many of the comments directed towards Reya about her children in the last week hurtful. It's challenging trying to meet the educational needs of an exceptionally gifted child, and to be told "it's all in your mind dear" is patronizing at the least. Leveling out does occur, but it's a phenomena primarily associated with hothoused children, not truly gifted ones. My 7yo can read at at least a high school level (though most of her reading is middle school/YA). Are you suggesting that she'll regress to a third grade reading level at 8 years old? If you're interested in learning more about the reality of parenting exceptionally gifted children, I'd suggest visiting Hoagies Gifted. Moira, (gently) There is a lot of respect for parents of exceptionally gifted children. In this case, however, we have a poster who has, without anything to substantiate her claim, completely dissed an author (who, btw, provides these boards). This is the same poster who, in other threads on this board, is giving advice about high school curriculum. This is the same poster who, when her child was merely four years old, was doing the same stuff. Having a gifted child does not make one an authority on all matters. Having a gifted child means...well...that one has a gifted child. Now, if was are all to believe that Reya's 4-month old daughter was helping her play Starfall last night: Babies can be so funny. (And guess who I'm giving the last feeding before bed right now?) I've been playing HARD with her since 9 PM, every game that I could think of and then a few new ones. (When I ran out of steam, we played Starfall. And, kind of frighteningly, I really do mean WE.) ...well...I'll just say that I'm not a believer. Sorry. Ria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki4 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 You are the reason we homeschool. Your book(s) have inspired, educated, and guided our family through our HS'ing journey. I have passed your book onto many friends who are flat-lined by public school nonsense. Ria(?), the rude poster, should just take her business somewhere else. Do continue with your endeavors, and please visit California sometime!:001_smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki4 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 please forgive my confusion with "Ria"; I meant "Reya" (you all know who I was referring to). Gosh, I hope I got that right this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 please forgive my confusion with "Ria"; I meant "Reya" (you all know who I was referring to).Gosh, I hope I got that right this time! LOL. No offense taken! Ria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Moira, (gently) There is a lot of respect for parents of exceptionally gifted children. In this case, however, we have a poster who has, without anything to substantiate her claim, completely dissed an author (who, btw, provides these boards). This is the same poster who, in other threads on this board, is giving advice about high school curriculum. This is the same poster who, when her child was merely four years old, was doing the same stuff. Having a gifted child does not make one an authority on all matters. Having a gifted child means...well...that one has a gifted child. Now, if was are all to believe that Reya's 4-month old daughter was helping her play Starfall last night: ...well...I'll just say that I'm not a believer. Sorry. Ria :iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I find nothing wrong about pm'mng her(SWB) if you find an error, or even asking if a certain part it an error. Carrie-- I'm [pretty?] sure even SWB herself has no problem w/ people discussing supposed errors or differences of opinion about her books. She seems to be an incredibly honest and forthright person that can stand up to the scrutiny of discussing historical perspectives. It's the general "this whole thing sucks and that's all I'm sayin' about it" that gets old. I mean, sheesh, if you don't like it, at least give a few concrete examples! I am very grateful for the people that HAVE done that because i was able to consider those and say "yeah...i wasn't the only one wondering about that...." and then get some direct feedback, verification, and some history about why the "error" was seen as an "error." Even experts in their various fields disagree: Apologia is written by a Nuclear Physicist w/ some admirable credentials, but some science teachers won't like it. Some mathematicians love saxon, others hate it. I have learned to almost dismiss completely when someone says that "as a [insert field experience here]," to qualify their answer. I want DETAILS. Give me a solid EXAMPLE of what one program says/ does that is WRONG and what another does that is BETTER. That being said, there's probably already a few threads on the Curriculum board dealing w/ errors in SOTW.... ;) i haven't kept up w/ those threads lately cuz we haven't used SOTW lately, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Carrie-- I'm [pretty?] sure even SWB herself has no problem w/ people discussing supposed errors or differences of opinion about her books. She seems to be an incredibly honest and forthright person that can stand up to the scrutiny of discussing historical perspectives. It's the general "this whole thing sucks and that's all I'm sayin' about it" that gets old. I mean, sheesh, if you don't like it, at least give a few concrete examples! I am very grateful for the people that HAVE done that because i was able to consider those and say "yeah...i wasn't the only one wondering about that...." and then get some direct feedback, verification, and some history about why the "error" was seen as an "error.".... Yes! I agree! I'm sure SWB is fine with it, because it's good work and she seems to be confident... I was just...No...I stop...somehow I'm not wording things on this thread correctly... I love what SWB has done...I loved reading her books....I use her books....I want to meet her! Somehow, I've just messed up explaining what I mean on here. Perhaps I'm too sleep deprived... Carrie :leaving: Outa this thread......Sorry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moira Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I am different Moira ( I can't belive there are more than one!) but I wanted to add my thoughts. I am sorry that Reya thought it appropriate to insult Susan on this forum. I am sorry Susan had to waste any time thinking about it. However, I am glad that Reya's ugly comment gave many of us a chance to let Susan know how much her books have helped us teach our children and how much her style has contributed to so many children loving history. My son and I both love history now because of SOTW. I mostly lurk around the forum but I learn something each time and appreciate having informed parents like you make me a better mom and teacher. Thanks everyone and Thanks Susan! Moira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I think your comments around the boards and on your profile these days are just over the top. My impression of SWB here is that she is open to people's opinions of her works, but this just seems way too sarcastic and ungracious to write on her own board that she pays for. :iagree::iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Reya's comments are not surprising...she's been touting herself as the source of all knowledge on these boards at least since 2007. It's not surprising that she now considers herself superior to SWB; not only is Reya the most intelligent woman, but her children are superior to all others, too. By Reya's own admission, her 4-month old is deliberately seeking out an alphabet toy and consciously using it (and consistently says the same sound for "h"...yep 4 months old. Wow.). Do some searches...you'll get the picture. Many of us remember her from her "amusing" posts in years past, and we've been chuckling over her new posts. Nothing new under the sun... Ria in a nutshell Ria. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I know little and care not a whit about Reya's history on the boards. However, as the mother of an exceptionally bright child, I've found many of the comments directed towards Reya about her children in the last week hurtful. It's challenging trying to meet the educational needs of an exceptionally gifted child, and to be told "it's all in your mind dear" is patronizing at the least. Leveling out does occur, but it's a phenomena primarily associated with hothoused children, not truly gifted ones. My 7yo can read at at least a high school level (though most of her reading is middle school/YA). Are you suggesting that she'll regress to a third grade reading level at 8 years old? If you're interested in learning more about the reality of parenting exceptionally gifted children, I'd suggest visiting Hoagies Gifted. My 8 year old tests post high school across boards but that doesn't make me run and post my expertise on the high school boards. :) I don't think anyone was really saying it was in her mind and I understand that some of the comments were close to snarky. Having said that, she was insufferably rude to our gracious host, so perhaps a little "get over yourself" is understandable if not exactly laudable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 In case anyone is interested, Reya is quite the little author herself. Here's a link to her bio. She's a romance novelist who publishes under the name Lydia Grace. http://www.lydiajoyce.com/bio.php Ria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathmom Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 In case anyone is interested, Reya is quite the little author herself. Here's a link to her bio. She's a romance novelist who publishes under the name Lydia Grace. http://www.lydiajoyce.com/bio.php Ria Wow, interesting bio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I guess when one writes romantic novels, one doesn't have to worry so much about historical inaccuracies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I guess when one writes romantic novels, one doesn't have to worry so much about historical inaccuracies... Bodice rippers?:lol: You kill me, Sleepy.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschool_mom Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I use sotw for a middle school child and supplement that with other books. I also love it! The books make history fun and easy to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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