LawDog Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Pandia Press, which publishes History Odyssey and some science materials that we have used, have stated they are now donating profits to LGBTQ causes and have ensured their US history curriculum addresses head-on the treatment of marginalized groups in society including the LGBTQ community. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) You are upset......that a history curriculum.....addresses history? Okay then. There are other programs for you. ETA: here's Pandia's blog post about the curriculum for anyone wondering: https://www.pandiapress.com/history-quest-united-states-a-timely-curriculum-for-elementary-history-and-civics-education/ Also, I served in the military, too. Teaching history is not a showing they "hate the U.S.". I'd recommend not using your service as a conjunction with your opinions in order to give them undue weight. Edited May 19, 2022 by HomeAgain 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberia Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Welcome to the forums! I don't think that addressing the problematic parts of US History equates to hatred of the US. I, too, served in the military and appreciate the freedoms and strengths of our country. But, I don't think it's healthy or accurate to ignore or minimize the sometimes horrific treatment of marginalized groups throughout US history. Like HomeAgain says, you are free to change curriculum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdomandtreasures Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) Nm Edited May 19, 2022 by wisdomandtreasures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Was there another post by OP that I missed? I couldn't tell from the OP whether the poster is sharing because they are happy or upset about these changes. Follow ups make it sound like the latter, and mention the military, but I don't see where that part is coming from. The first post still sounds equally like it could go either way. 3 hours ago, LawDog said: Pandia Press, which publishes History Odyssey and some science materials that we have used, have stated they are now donating profits to LGBTQ causes and have ensured their US history curriculum addresses head-on the treatment of marginalized groups in society including the LGBTQ community. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberia Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 KSera, yes, the OP deleted most of the original post. We were responding to that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Right. The post had a lot more. I don't think it got the response the OP wanted, but that's okay. Everyone has a right to rethink what they want to put out in the world. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tiberia said: KSera, yes, the OP deleted most of the original post. We were responding to that. Why doesn't she have the edit thing? I want to not have the edit thing! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 ☠️ Potential troll alert "Pot stirring" first post topic by a brand new poster... 😉 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lori D. said: ☠️ Potential troll alert "Pot stirring" first post topic by a brand new poster... 😉 But she doesn't have an edit thing! My. pot. is. stirred. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I don't even know what to say to this. Anyone who has been paying any attention to anything about curricula knows that Pandia are a secular press that have also taken a pretty clear stance on other issues in the past like the reality of climate change in their science materials. This is like when newbies post with shocked tones that Apologia is Christian. Like, DUH. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 hours ago, LawDog said: Pandia Press, which publishes History Odyssey and some science materials that we have used, have stated they are now donating profits to LGBTQ causes and have ensured their US history curriculum addresses head-on the treatment of marginalized groups in society including the LGBTQ community. Good for them!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheres Toto Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Slache said: Why doesn't she have the edit thing? I want to not have the edit thing! This is what confused me. I kept going back up looking for the Edited line. And yes, I don't see why this would surprise anyone. Didn't they give away a Climate Change and a Social Justice unit curriculum in the past year or so? Edited May 20, 2022 by Wheres Toto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Tang Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Pandia Press (I first searched Panda Express, oops! lol) has been mentioned to me, but I honestly haven't looked at any samples until today. I'm pretty conservative, but perhaps more towards the middle as I do lean left in certain ways, and there was nothing in the sample that concerned me. Actually, it looks like it spends more time talking about early history (I thought that was neat), and there is a section on women. I'm not sure where the LGBTQ history is or how it is approached. My only objections when it comes to sensitive material is when things are not age appropriate. If something is designed to be used with children as young as Kindergarten, I don't feel they should be reading explicitly about rape, for example. Yes, I have seen that before. This year we did Christian Studies through Memoria Press. We consider ourselves Christians, but my children haven't studied the Old Testament in depth until this last year. Wow were they introduced to a few things! Like men having multiple wives, parents having favorite children... There are so many interesting people and things to learn about from the past. I got a few different book ideas from the sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Does anyone have any links that confirm what the OP is talking about? I couldn't find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Tang Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, EKS said: Does anyone have any links that confirm what the OP is talking about? I couldn't find anything. Their Facebook message has the statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bean Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I got an email. Meh- more books in the sea, ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Ting Tang said: Their Facebook message has the statement. I still can't find it. I'm probably just technologically inept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Tang Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, EKS said: I still can't find it. I'm probably just technologically inept! I went back, and I can't find it anymore, either. I do believe I saw a statement about making donations, but maybe I am missing it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Sounds fabulous. We need more of those options. 🙂 My smallest human is wrapping up middle grade US history right now, but I'ma check out the booklist. 👍 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyMom5 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I left the Pandia Press FB groups bc I felt they went beyond balanced to far left. I do have some of their history and science curriculum, and I will continue to use them, but I'm not buying anything new. I agree with hearing all voices, but the tone of their groups feels like the flip side of the ultra Christian groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 19 hours ago, Ting Tang said: Pandia Press (I first searched Panda Express, oops! lol) has been mentioned to me, but I honestly haven't looked at any samples until today. I'm pretty conservative, but perhaps more towards the middle as I do lean left in certain ways, and there was nothing in the sample that concerned me. Actually, it looks like it spends more time talking about early history (I thought that was neat), and there is a section on women. I'm not sure where the LGBTQ history is or how it is approached. My only objections when it comes to sensitive material is when things are not age appropriate. If something is designed to be used with children as young as Kindergarten, I don't feel they should be reading explicitly about rape, for example. Yes, I have seen that before. This year we did Christian Studies through Memoria Press. We consider ourselves Christians, but my children haven't studied the Old Testament in depth until this last year. Wow were they introduced to a few things! Like men having multiple wives, parents having favorite children... There are so many interesting people and things to learn about from the past. I got a few different book ideas from the sample. Their community is super leftie and Blair Lee, who writes most of their science materials, is also the founder of SEA Homeschoolers and is pretty well known for her liberal political views. Their materials are much more middle of the road in my experience. I'd say they're just the teeniest step left of what you'd see in a public school text if at all. They have revised their stuff over the years though, so it's possible that they'll get more political as time goes on. But I would even say that their history stuff before they did the last big set of revisions was more conservative leaning on the whole. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Tang Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Farrar said: Their community is super leftie and Blair Lee, who writes most of their science materials, is also the founder of SEA Homeschoolers and is pretty well known for her liberal political views. Their materials are much more middle of the road in my experience. I'd say they're just the teeniest step left of what you'd see in a public school text if at all. They have revised their stuff over the years though, so it's possible that they'll get more political as time goes on. But I would even say that their history stuff before they did the last big set of revisions was more conservative leaning on the whole. I just like to find things that are different, especially with history. Sometimes I feel like the same historical figures and events are covered in US history. This one looks pretty good to me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I've used a lot of their stuff and their materials are pretty center. Comparing them to what my kids are using in public jr. high and high school, they are right of the public school materials. There is little commentary in the assignment sheets, and most of the books assigned are the typical list of age appropriate historical fiction. Good on them for supporting equal rights for everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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