sleepymommy Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Is the Bangladeshi Genocide common knowledge? 1. Yes 2. No (This is my first poll and I'm not sure if I've done it right!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymommy Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onceuponatime Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I've never heard of it. I was public schooled and have homeschooled for more than 18 years. Off to find out more about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I said no, not common knowledge. I was aware, because my father was a professor teaching economic geography esp of the Indian Subcontinent. Plus, there was a Joan Baez album all my friends had with a very sad song about this. I think I was 13 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/ Thank you for the link. No, I did not know about it. Since we will be continuing modern history this year, I may make a point of discussing the various holocausts and genocide actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photo Ninja Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 This one I didn't know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfamilygal Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Wow. I'd never heard of that one at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kchara Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Never heard of that one, so I'd say, no. Sad how much we don't know about, isn't it? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewb Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 It should be but it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'd heard about major bloodshed during the partitioning in the late 1940's of India and Pakistan but I hadn't heard of this one in the 1970's. Yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annandatje Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Yes. Joan Baez wrote a song about it, but that in and of itself would not qualify an occurrence as general knowledge: http://www.joanbaez.com/Lyrics/bangladesh.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 See, these are starting to get confusing. Yes, I'm aware of it. No, I don't think most people are. Is the question should it be? Is the question do *I* know about it? Or is it just do we think of it as something others knowing? Honestly, the question should almost be "Is the existence of a country called Bangladesh common knowledge?" because I think many Americans couldn't name it, or at the very least, would have no context for it geographically or historically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaid Dad Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I only know about it because of George Harrison's benefit concerts. We learned almost nothing in school about history past WWII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Or what about the one in SriLanka that just took place end of last year , beginning of this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amira Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It's not common knowledge, but we start getting to a point where everyone can't know everything when we keep asking these questions. For example, I live in Kyrgyzstan right now. Very few Americans know anything about Kyrgyzstan, or the atrocities that have happened here, or the wonderful things that have happened here. Most Americans can't even pronounce the name of the country. But I don't think that necessarily means that Americans are ignorant. For some it might, if they haven't learned other worthwhile things, but usually it simply means they have focused on learning different, but still worthwhile, things. This is a huge world with a lots of things we can learn about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Was this genocide or mass murder? There is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymommy Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 See, these are starting to get confusing. Yes, I'm aware of it. No, I don't think most people are. Is the question should it be? Is the question do *I* know about it? Or is it just do we think of it as something others knowing? Honestly, the question should almost be "Is the existence of a country called Bangladesh common knowledge?" because I think many Americans couldn't name it, or at the very least, would have no context for it geographically or historically. Yes, I see that I did make the answers a bit confusing. Sorry, I do mean to ask if it is considered to be common knowledge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrganicAnn Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 my first thought was which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Was this genocide or mass murder? There is a difference. genocide. the link has info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymommy Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Was this genocide or mass murder? There is a difference. Genocide. The Pakistani gov't tried to wipe out the entire Bangladeshi peoples. According to the Genocide Convention defined by the UN in 1948: “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group as such: (a) Killing members of the group, (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group." I would define mass murder as more along the lines of a randomized killing spree. Edited July 18, 2011 by sleepymommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Genocide. The Pakistani gov't tried to wipe out the entire Bangladeshi peoples due to their religion. According to the Genocide Convention defined by the UN in 1948: “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group as such: (a) Killing members of the group, (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group." I would define mass murder as more along the lines of a randomized killing spree. ...but most Bangladeshis are Muslim even today some 90% are Muslim. Bangladesh was designated as East Pakistan following the British exit from India because it was a Moslem dominated area. Note I am in no way arguing for Pakistanis, simply questioning the use of the term genocide. This is not because I necessarily disagree but rather because I simply do not know. The link frequently uses the term GENDERcide rather than genocide. The quote about killing 3 million, while horrendous, seems not to indicate a desire to exterminate ALL. My knowledge of this episode is somewhat limited and I appreciate the info provided. While this episode may not be deemed common knowledge I certainly think that people should be aware of those events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edithcrawley Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I've never heard of this event until today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepymommy Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 At that time there was a much larger percentage of Hindus in Bangladesh, however many Muslims were also killed during the genocide. I edited my post right after I posted to be more accurate. The main targets were the Hindu Bangladeshis, from what I've learned about this is that the Muslims were more a "random" killing. If the army felt like killing them they did, if they felt like letting the live they did. Why kill their own? From what I understand, the Bangladeshi Muslims were of a different sect. But it was always death, torture, etc for the Hindus. The term gendercide is used mostly because the proportion of men, boys, and male babies killed was greater than the woman. During the first phases of their attacks, they targeted men and boys. Killing off the men would aid in the extermination of the peoples. The woman and girls were often taken back to the army barracks as slaves and raped repeatedly until later death. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Or what about the one in SriLanka that just took place end of last year , beginning of this year ? I would think most Aussies would have heard of it, even if they didn't know details, since we have a lot of refugees from there. I hadn't heard of the Bangladeshi genocide until this thread. All I'd ever read about Pakistan and Bangladesh splitting was the issue of distance. I guess I got the "lies to small children" version of the story. :001_huh: Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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