Wendi Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Ken Ham. Now I am tempted to go to the convention, just to see if he will say something controversial. :D Wendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother Superior Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You should go and Tweet live during his talks. I'd follow you. :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You should go and Tweet live during his talks. I'd follow you. :lurk5: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yeah..tweeting would be nice. I would probably skip it and let the organizers know I was in favor of diversity and wouldn't be attending conventions where people trash the other attendees. My reason for doing this is because I am too loud and would likely do something inappropriate otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendi Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yeah..tweeting would be nice. I would probably skip it and let the organizers know I was in favor of diversity and wouldn't be attending conventions where people trash the other attendees. My reason for doing this is because I am too loud and would likely do something inappropriate otherwise. That's my dilemma. I wasn't planning to go, so if I go now, it may make it seem like I'm supporting Ken Ham. I'm frustrated, because I am (I think) in agreement with his creation position, but I don't like the way he's calling out other authors. I think he should speak convincingly of his position, and let people make their own decisions. Like when I worked at a bank, they said the best way to learn to detect counterfeit money was by carefully studying the real thing. So let Mr. Ham give his arguments and promote his books. Then his listeners/hearers can evaluate other materials on their own. Wendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kidsforME Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 and.....3.........2..........1..........closed thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That's my dilemma. I wasn't planning to go, so if I go now, it may make it seem like I'm supporting Ken Ham. I'm frustrated, because I am (I think) in agreement with his creation position, but I don't like the way he's calling out other authors. I think he should speak convincingly of his position, and let people make their own decisions. Like when I worked at a bank, they said the best way to learn to detect counterfeit money was by carefully studying the real thing. So let Mr. Ham give his arguments and promote his books. Then his listeners/hearers can evaluate other materials on their own. Wendi I don't necessarily agree with creation but I agree with you. I think homeschooling families are a diverse bunch. If people hate diversity why don't they go to their own conventions, why do they have to mess with the only diverse one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfatherslily Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I'd say go to (and enjoy!) the talks you like, skip the ones you don't, and don't worry about the rest:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Threads that remain polite and civil will remain open... Moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That's what I've always done. I'm not sure why Christians of different denominations/viewpoints can't play nicely together.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Ken Ham. Now I am tempted to go to the convention, just to see if he will say something controversial. :D Wendi I am somewhere between...:lol: and.....:001_huh: ....and...:glare: and then back to...:lol: Sorry...I am going to Philly....lalalalala...I am going to Philly....lalalala... Back to my regular somber self... Faithe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You should go and Tweet live during his talks. I'd follow you. :lurk5: Me too....because I suffer from the sin of gossip as long as it is not personal...and I am not even sure how to twitter....but I'd probably figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Threads that remain polite and civil will remain open... Moderator When have we ever NOT been polite or civil??? oh...right, I remember that....:auto: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I'd say go to (and enjoy!) the talks you like, skip the ones you don't, and don't worry about the rest:) The trouble is they aren't advertised as "so and so, Old Earth Creationist" or "so and so, Dominionist." *I* knew which ones to avoid so I didn't see any controversial stuff. But, I can see people just sort of stumbling into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5knights3maidens Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That's what I've always done. I'm not sure why Christians of different denominations/viewpoints can't play nicely together.... :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That's what I've always done. I'm not sure why Christians of different denominations/viewpoints can't play nicely together.... It's embarassing :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I'd say go to (and enjoy!) the talks you like, skip the ones you don't, and don't worry about the rest:) I think if the convention offerings serve your goals enough that you want to attend, then do. There are plenty of speakers/vendors at Cincinnati that I wasn't planning to bother with. My kids all read now, so I don't need teaching reading stuff. I'm pretty happy with our math options, so I won't be pouring over that. I am excited about what we've been learning with the Writing with Skill Beta test, so for writing I'm not really looking. But I'm a sucker for good history books and science stuff. So I'll be browsing that pretty hard. If someone I really didn't like was keynote and they were going to shut down the vendor hall during those keynote speeches, then I might reconsider. Otherwise, I'd just consider someone I didn't need to hear as producing a less crowded vendor hall for me to take advantage of. Though I guess if the bulk of the vendors and speakers were of the same ilk, there wouldn't be many offerings of enough interest for me to attend. Is it wide ranging, other than this speaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The trouble is they aren't advertised as "so and so, Old Earth Creationist" or "so and so, Dominionist." *I* knew which ones to avoid so I didn't see any controversial stuff. But, I can see people just sort of stumbling into it. It would be nice if there were more descriptive workshop identifiers. Of course, you can also unleash the power of the internet if you have the speaker list ahead of time. I did walk out of one workshop years ago. Blamed it on the noisy baby, but I was really getting away from the speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The trouble is they aren't advertised as "so and so, Old Earth Creationist" or "so and so, Dominionist." *I* knew which ones to avoid so I didn't see any controversial stuff. But, I can see people just sort of stumbling into it. Almost like walking into a movie and knowing nothing about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yeah..tweeting would be nice. I would probably skip it and let the organizers know I was in favor of diversity and wouldn't be attending conventions where people trash the other attendees. My reason for doing this is because I am too loud and would likely do something inappropriate otherwise. :D:iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Almost like walking into a movie and knowing nothing about it I have never, EVER seen a preview of a conference speaker on tv or the internet, not even on the conference's own website. Maybe there *should* be a site with warnings about specific speakers. "Warning, will continually gripe about liberals and how Godless they are when speaking of his math curriculum." :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I have never, EVER seen a preview of a conference speaker on tv or the internet, not even on the conference's own website. Maybe there *should* be a site with warnings about specific speakers. "Warning, will continually gripe about liberals and how Godless they are when speaking of his math curriculum." :D It does seem like MidWest is a little better at indicating which workshops are being conducted by vendors. I remember years ago, being very frustrated at attending a workshop on learning foreign languages, only to realize that it was solely about one very particular (and to me peculiar) product. If something is going to be on the glories of one product, then I want to know that. Might make me more interested in attending. Might make me avoid it like the plague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathkath Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 How about you wear a ball cap embroidered "theistic evolution rocks" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I have never, EVER seen a preview of a conference speaker on tv or the internet, not even on the conference's own website. Maybe there *should* be a site with warnings about specific speakers. "Warning, will continually gripe about liberals and how Godless they are when speaking of his math curriculum." :D I would read that website. I haven't been HS very long and I do not know who some of these people are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Oh, I leave sessions all the time. I try to sit in the back and near a door if I don't know the speaker. If their speaking style is tedious, if they're selling a product and I hear enough to know it's not for me, if their world view is so opposed to mine that I can't stand to sit any more, then I quietly leave at a moment that I feel is opportune. I try to be as quiet and unobtrusive as possible. But I don't hold it against anyone. I don't go and complain about the speakers. I know full well and can't help but thinking that other adults should, too, that there is a whole huge world of people out there and that even among Christians there are a ton of different viewpoints on every book of the Bible, probably on every verse of the Bible, LOL..... The info on speakers is posted a year in advance for these big conventions, isn't it? That seems to me time enough to google them if someone is so easily offended that they'd fall out in a faint if they heard a word they didn't agree with. They don't make us sign up ahead of time and hold us to seeing only certain speakers. We are free to come and go as we please. I've put up with stuff I find offensive at every single convention without complaint, smirks, huffs, etc. I'm not sure why everyone else can't do the same so that we can all get our curricular materials purchased and go home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Woah! They haven't started shutting down the hall during keynote speeches, have they? I've never been to a convention that does that! I wouldn't go to one that did that, LOL, I'm there for the books...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home4school Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yeah, I received an email from my state hs organization proudly proclaiming that Ken Ham would still be speaking there. :glare: Apparently there was some confusing about the initials of the expo and they didn't want people to think it was them that disinvited him. I won't be going to any talks. I just want to look at books and hold them in my hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Woah! They haven't started shutting down the hall during keynote speeches, have they? I've never been to a convention that does that! I wouldn't go to one that did that, LOL, I'm there for the books...... I think that the convention in Hawaii didn't open up the vendor hall until after the opening session, which included one presentation from the keynote: Zan Tyler. (Who was pretty interesting, btw.) And for some reason, I recall HEAV not having the vendor hall open when the main speaker was doing his presentations. But that was over 10 years ago and I could well be misremembering. I do wish that MidWest had the vender hall open earlier and later than they are doing. I am finding that there are so many speakers I'm interested in hearing that I'll have little time for shopping and fingering books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I went to the NICHE confrence last year, and I am pretty sure they did close down the vendor hall during keynotes. At least they announced they were going to, I'm not sure how succesful they were ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 That's why I now make the books my first priority, LOL.... I also wish they had extended hours, but the poor families who man the booths might die of exhaustion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendi Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 I am somewhere between...:lol: and.....:001_huh: ....and...:glare: and then back to...:lol:Sorry...I am going to Philly....lalalalala...I am going to Philly....lalalala... Back to my regular somber self... Faithe There's no GHC in the southwest, unfortunately. Maybe someday. I've never had the chance to hear SWB speak. Wendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendi Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yeah, I received an email from my state hs organization proudly proclaiming that Ken Ham would still be speaking there. :glare: Apparently there was some confusing about the initials of the expo and they didn't want people to think it was them that disinvited him. I won't be going to any talks. I just want to look at books and hold them in my hands. I went last year. All I did was look at stuff in the vendor hall, and hear Andrew Pudewa speak twice. :001_smile: Wendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendi Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 I went to the NICHE confrence last year, and I am pretty sure they did close down the vendor hall during keynotes. At least they announced they were going to, I'm not sure how succesful they were ;). I don't think they do that here. Wendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertechmom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 How about you wear a ball cap embroidered "theistic evolution rocks" OMG That's funny! :lol::lol: I would buy one just for the fun of it - Oh the looks I would get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I don't recall that ever being the case in Cincy - I sure hope not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Maybe not a good idea this year - it might get more than just looks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother Superior Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Me too....because I suffer from the sin of gossip as long as it is not personal...and I am not even sure how to twitter....but I'd probably figure it out. Reporting something factual, live as it is happening, is not gossip. Unfortunately many of the news media outlets put their own spin on things these days, which means that what they "report" probably is. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 You should go and Tweet live during his talks. I'd follow you. :lurk5: Oh yeah! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiobrain Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Almost like walking into a movie and knowing nothing about it :smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in WI Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 It would be nice if the front few rows had people in "I <3 SWB" t-shirts. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELaurie Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) Ken Ham. AAAGGGHHH! I think we live in the same state! :leaving: Edited March 29, 2011 by ELaurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 If that's the AFHE one, it sure did suck the fun out of realizing I'd finally be living near one that I was able to attend. :glare: There are only two talks that sound up my alley, I'm not particularly interested in parenting talks or "being encouraged," and I'll have already purchased our curricula for the next year by then. I'll probably only go if my sister hsing her K'er wants to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetBean Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have never, EVER seen a preview of a conference speaker on tv or the internet, not even on the conference's own website. Maybe there *should* be a site with warnings about specific speakers. "Warning, will continually gripe about liberals and how Godless they are when speaking of his math curriculum." :D Our local conference has links to the speakers and vendors own websites, so that you can pre-plan. I use this to determine whether or not I will even attend. I can't imagine that there would be many or even any conference attendees who wouldn't know who Ken Ham is, but even so I have walked out of of talks that I decided were not worth my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC in KS Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 We don't get anyone quite that illustrious, but we (well, they) will be hearing from someone from Creation Truth Foundation, complete with a "mobile field exhibit". I just wish I could find a homeschooling conference that actually featured people talking about *homeschooling*. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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