Guest inoubliable Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 With all the fear mongering over Common Core, who saw this coming? http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/02/27/alabama-republican-leader-adoption-of-common-core-will-lead-to-indoctrination-of-children-just-like-hitler-wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 With all the fear mongering over Common Core, who saw this coming? http://www.patheos.c...e-hitler-wanted The thing I don't get is that a program like Common Core is something conservatives have been pushing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 In light of the recent posts, and other threads on the boards... I'm glad to know this. You can't hide behind your religion or your politics when it comes to hate speech. *happy dance* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The thing I don't get is that something like Common Core is something conservatives have been pushing for years. Well. As a commenter on the original article pointed out, legitimate concerns over Common Core (are there? I don't know) are being shoved over for Godwin's Law, fear of socialism, fear of gays, fear of secularism, and religious persecution. It think it's honestly because Obama. That's it. Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 dh keeps promising we'll retire to canada . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrookValley. Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I did serious research about moving to Canada in 2004. They didn't want us. :( And the husband says he doesn't have enough body fat to handle the climate. So we stayed, and I spend a disproportionate amount of time hassling my elected officials and generally being a loud-mouthed, obnoxious political activist (especially when it comes to LGBT rights). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 my husband is canadian. they cant turn us away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 https://parents.diy.org/ This was posted somewhere here earlier. I saw it, grabbed the link, and moved on with my day. :( I have no idea who to give credit for in posting this. Anyway. I just checked it out. My kids are all signed up. It's like BSA without a troop - or the homophobia or molestation. :glare: If you're looking for something to keep kiddos occupied this summer - this could be it. Worth checking out. Looks like kiddos can "friend" each other on there, too. If anyone wants to have kiddos follow each other, PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 In light of the recent posts, and other threads on the boards... I'm glad to know this. You can't hide behind your religion or your politics when it comes to hate speech. So... Canadians recognize that freedom of speech does not mean your can scream whatever spew is running around in your brain onion passersby without intervention? What a concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jar7709 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 my husband is canadian. they cant turn us away. Mine too! I was looking into things last fall when election ugliness was at a fever pitch. It is nice to have an 'out' available. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 With all the fear mongering over Common Core, who saw this coming? http://www.patheos.c...e-hitler-wanted :blink: :blink: :blink: 1994? And, she's criticizing an education reform program? :blink: :blink: :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 https://parents.diy.org/ This was posted somewhere here earlier. I saw it, grabbed the link, and moved on with my day. :( I have no idea who to give credit for in posting this. Anyway. I just checked it out. My kids are all signed up. It's like BSA without a troop - or the homophobia or molestation. :glare: If you're looking for something to keep kiddos occupied this summer - this could be it. Worth checking out. Looks like kiddos can "friend" each other on there, too. If anyone wants to have kiddos follow each other, PM me. That looks interesting. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 :blink: :blink: :blink: 1994? And, she's criticizing an education reform program? :blink: :blink: :blink: Well, you know, "higher" education -like literacy and cultural awareness - is elitist, Audrey. I would send my kids to school if Obama was teaching their classes. Then, I suspect, there would be an expectation of thought. But, of course, I do aim to change society, so I'm probably not her audience. Speaking of which, did she sound like she was speaking to an empty room, or was that just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 :blink: :blink: :blink: 1994? And, she's criticizing an education reform program? :blink: :blink: :blink: Aye. You like that? :smilielol5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Well, you know, "higher" education -like literacy and cultural awareness - is elitist, Audrey. I would send my kids to school if Obama was teaching their classes. Then, I suspect, there would be an expectation of thought. But, of course, I do aim to change society, so I'm probably not her audience. Speaking of which, did she sound like she was speaking to an empty room, or was that just me? Not only would I send my kids to school if Obama was teaching their classes, but I'd totally have a beer with that guy. And Michelle. They both seem like they'd be a TON of fun to hang out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 So... Canadians recognize that freedom of speech does not mean your can scream whatever spew is running around in your brain onion passersby without intervention? What a concept. Similar to the US Bill of Rights, we have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms -- section 15 of which says and means this. I think they made the right decision. What they are saying is that a Freedom cannot infringe on another's Rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Aye. You like that? :smilielol5: My eyeballs are still twitching at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Similar to the US Bill of Rights, we have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms -- section 15 of which says and means this. I think they made the right decision. What they are saying is that a Freedom cannot infringe on another's Rights. Right. The interpretation of our Bill of Rights seems to have missed that memo. That's what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Right. The interpretation of our Bill of Rights seems to have missed that memo. That's what I was getting at. I think the SCOTUS has had the memo in the past. I think it's just a matter of having enough thinkers on the bench who realize that a Constitution is a living document, not writ in stone. Although there have been unfortunate times when personal and conventional politics sat in those seats, there have also been Courts who have made amazingly progressive rulings (for their time) in the past. There is no reason they can't be doing that now and in the future. Change gonna come... oh yes it will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I agree. I wish the many others who seem to believe "rights" mean unfettered ability, regardless of harm or intrusion to others, would go back to their middle school citizenship class. There seems to be a remarkable lack of civility laws here. Unless you count the so called laws that are really intended to make areas undesirable to homeless people. (The "civility laws" against panhandling, etc) Brusssels has apparently had the for quite a while, but has recently changed the law to allow on the spot fines instead of police just issuing court summons. Which leads me to and interesting morning ponder: If people can be stopped from voicing rude, intrusive, hateful comments, would that trickle down from conscious filtering between thought and speech, to not even thinking the thought, to ultimately being a more positive presence in the world? Hmmmmmmm. I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I think the SCOTUS has had the memo in the past. I think it's just a matter of having enough thinkers on the bench who realize that a Constitution is a living document, not writ in stone. Although there have been unfortunate times when personal and conventional politics sat in those seats, there have also been Courts who have made amazingly progressive rulings (for their time) in the past. There is no reason they can't be doing that now and in the future. Change gonna come... oh yes it will... Haven't you heard? The Constitution has been elevated to the level of infallible, unchangeable, God-inspired document second only to the Bible. Or so I've been hearing in my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Not only would I send my kids to school if Obama was teaching their classes, but I'd totally have a beer with that guy. And Michelle. They both seem like they'd be a TON of fun to hang out with. I want to work out with them. I read that they both work out early in the a.m. If I had the First Lady and the President as motivation I could work out for hours. Not that I have a fantasy about the President working out or anything....... Plus, Mrs. Obama is kick butt in fitness and it would be so much fun. Once I had someone tell me I have "Michelle Obama arms" and that was one of the best compliments ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I want to work out with them. I read that they both work out early in the a.m. If I had the First Lady and the President as motivation I could work out for hours. Not that I have a fantasy about the President working out or anything....... Plus, Mrs. Obama is kick butt in fitness and it would be so much fun. Once I had someone tell me I have "Michelle Obama arms" and that was one of the best compliments ever. No kidding! To all of the above. Congrats on the MO arms. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I want to work out with them. I read that they both work out early in the a.m. If I had the First Lady and the President as motivation I could work out for hours. Not that I have a fantasy about the President working out or anything....... Plus, Mrs. Obama is kick butt in fitness and it would be so much fun. Once I had someone tell me I have "Michelle Obama arms" and that was one of the best compliments ever. Duuuuuuuude. That would be so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4kidlets4me Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Get a load of this Christian school fires pregnant woman for engaging in premarital sex. So guess everyone who works there has to sign a morality clause that says they won't engage in a bunch of behaviors including premarital relations. At first I'm thinking this woman is out of luck since she signed it. Then we get to the clincher- school offers her job to this woman's fiance! Who also engaged in relations hence the baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Get a load of this Christian school fires pregnant woman for engaging in premarital sex. So guess everyone who works there has to sign a morality clause that says they won't engage in a bunch of behaviors including premarital relations. At first I'm thinking this woman is out of luck since she signed it. Then we get to the clincher- school offers her job to this woman's fiance! Who also engaged in relations hence the baby!! But of course. She's knocked up and the kids WILL SEE it and is a slut so they fire her. But him? Well, he's got a family to support. Or something. Same old slut/stud double standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaney Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Get a load of this Christian school fires pregnant woman for engaging in premarital sex. So guess everyone who works there has to sign a morality clause that says they won't engage in a bunch of behaviors including premarital relations. At first I'm thinking this woman is out of luck since she signed it. Then we get to the clincher- school offers her job to this woman's fiance! Who also engaged in relations hence the baby!! Yet they do not see the double standard that sooooooo many xtian churches/faiths hold and cling to. The catholic church takes women back centuries........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deannajo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 https://parents.diy.org/ This was posted somewhere here earlier. I saw it, grabbed the link, and moved on with my day. :( I have no idea who to give credit for in posting this. Anyway. I just checked it out. My kids are all signed up. It's like BSA without a troop - or the homophobia or molestation. :glare: If you're looking for something to keep kiddos occupied this summer - this could be it. Worth checking out. Looks like kiddos can "friend" each other on there, too. If anyone wants to have kiddos follow each other, PM me. I get credit for this one :) I was talking it up on some other thread a while ago - my 11 year old has been involved for months - its really cool! she'd love some friends there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyK Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The thing I don't get is that a program like Common Core is something conservatives have been pushing for years. This is exactly what's been bothering me. Can someone explain it to me? This is a serious question. I'm old enough that I was in college and grad school in the 80s when there were big fights in the academy about teaching the Canon, when Bill Bennett came to prominence, etc. As a liberal, I've always felt a bit guilty that I am attracted to the idea of making sure my kids have a grounding in the Western canon. But now conservatives on the board are mad that schools will teach on ED Hirsch principles? I really don't get it. Would they object to a Reagan-authored history book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmamaz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 they object to it BECAUSE A DEMOCRAT-LED GOVERNMENT TOLD THEM TO DO IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Get a load of this Christian school fires pregnant woman for engaging in premarital sex. So guess everyone who works there has to sign a morality clause that says they won't engage in a bunch of behaviors including premarital relations. At first I'm thinking this woman is out of luck since she signed it. Then we get to the clincher- school offers her job to this woman's fiance! Who also engaged in relations hence the baby!! I was right there with you... Contract, yadda yadda... And then, I think I might have blacked out from the hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Personally I think the hysteria over common core is HIGH-freaking-larious. None of the claims are even vaguely based in fact. Anything but facts. No facts need apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I just blew up with someone about the Pope and the whole double standard thing about the Christian school. This person had the audacity to defend both. Sigh, when I rule the world...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 This is exactly what's been bothering me. Can someone explain it to me? This is a serious question. I'm old enough that I was in college and grad school in the 80s when there were big fights in the academy about teaching the Canon, when Bill Bennett came to prominence, etc. As a liberal, I've always felt a bit guilty that I am attracted to the idea of making sure my kids have a grounding in the Western canon. But now conservatives on the board are mad that schools will teach on ED Hirsch principles? I really don't get it. Would they object to a Reagan-authored history book? I was a grad student and a prof in that era. It was horrendous, really, in academic circles. I've always been in favour of teaching the Canon, and made no apologies for that. I doesn't mean I discount the contributions from the margins or including them in a well-rounded study program, but it does mean I wouldn't emphasize them over Canon. Of those who held the same or similar position, I was one of the only "liberal" profs. It was certainly unfamiliar comapny to keep, but it made me realize that "liberal" politics and "liberal" education aren't the same bedfellows at all. So, I find it very strange, indeed, that Common Core has been taken up as a political charge, and stranger still that the ones charging against it are the very ones who would have been most likely to champion it years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Quiet day on the godless thread. Weekend plans? Mine is to be lazy all weekend and get together with friends to bake absurdly decadent things on Sunday afternoon. Just because we want to, no reason or occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Quiet weekend here. I'm going to have to cover my tomatoes. We should not have freezing temperatures in March here in Central Florida, but we're expecting close to freezing. They barely survived a surprise freeze a few weeks ago and I fear this one might just do them in. But climate change isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Today is the opening of lacrosse season. I'll be on the field with the kids from 8:30-1 tomorrow. Hopefully, I'll get a short workout in before we take to the grass. Sunday, staff workout before the Y opens, then I plan to lay around all day. And do laundry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Quiet weekend here. I'm going to have to cover my tomatoes. We should not have freezing temperatures in March here in Central Florida, but we're expecting close to freezing. They barely survived a surprise freeze a few weeks ago and I fear this one might just do them in. But climate change isn't real. Snort. No, the gods just don't like tomatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Busy weekend. Soccer, pokemon league, dinner with a friend tomorrow. Kohl's with my momma Sunday morning, then off to taste my friend's first try at home brewed beer. Fingers crossed! We went to see Jack the Giant Slayer today. Fun movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 My eldest has two individual GS cookie booth sales, but at least that's it for the year. Other than that, mentally preparing for Great Wolf Lodge next week -- must ready my defenses for non-stop Radio Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Snort. No, the gods just don't like tomatoes. Or Florida in general, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Snort. No, the gods just don't like tomatoes. They probably just don't like Florida tomatoes, which if you've ever had "real" tomatoes, just don't taste as good. Tomatoes weren't meant to grow in this climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 must ready my defenses for non-stop Radio Disney. I was so happy when ds outgrew Radio Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I was so happy when ds outgrew Radio Disney. Thankfully, GWL is the only place we hear it. The kids are still more into Spike Jones and TMBG than teeny pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The bands on Radio Disney really do all sound the same, right? I mean literally. Please tell me it's not like when my parents said this about my music when I was a kid. :tongue_smilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Snort. No, the gods just don't like tomatoes. I thought gods didn't believe in tomatoes? Or was that in the Tomatoes-Are-A-Veggie Testament? I may be getting it confused with the Tomatoes-Are-Actually-A-Fruit-Testament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No weekend plans here for me. Other than a usual hour of housecleaning tomorrow morning (which actually relaxes and calms me), I plan on catching up on some reading and sleep. DH and DS12 will be building a Lego table. DS8 and DS5 have big plans to bake a cake (Oh, I guess I will be doing something after all) and they're asking for a movie night on Saturday. Next weekend should be nice and busy. Opening weekend for the Green Valley Book Fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I thought gods didn't believe in tomatoes? Or was that in the Tomatoes-Are-A-Veggie Testament? I may be getting it confused with the Tomatoes-Are-Actually-A-Fruit-Testament. Tomatoes are a fruit. Ketchup is a vegetable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Tomatoes are a fruit. Ketchup is a vegetable. Shit! What testament is THAT from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-bex Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Soccer for Ds in the morning, then grocery shopping. Sunday, I'm kicking them all out in the morning for a movie or whatever, and then in the afternoon I'm taking off for a 2 hour massage. I'm finally getting a MUCH-deserved day off. And I need it soooo badly. The house is already clean, so I will get to enjoy it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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