********* Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) My dh and I have recently discovered a wonderful Christian brother who writes absolutely fantastic music for the Lord. His name is Jason Bellard. This is his song, " ". Truly convicting and moving. You can find more of his songs by searching "Jason Bellard' on YouTube. Here are the lyrics: "This is Not a Game", by Jason Bellard True religion isn't in your church positions it is not in superstitions, or church activities. True repentance is an act of brokeness from the grief of your regrets of a life that's now deceased. True deliverance is not a road you walk alone but "With my spirit," says the Lord, "as you walk away away from sin". True salvation is not displayed in how you treat it or in prayers that you've repeated time and time again. 'Cause this is not a game, and this is not a chance to see the spotlight. It's not about a church that seats a thousand, or a choir that sings on key. It's about the kingdom. And when will you make time to share my gospel. Make time to point the lost to a brighter day in eternity. And make time for me. When will you make time for me? True holiness is a goal you cannot reach if you ignore humility on this road you walk each day. True conviction is not in these mortal words but "By my spirt," says the Lord, "as I draw your heart my way". True righteousness is found by faith in me alone you can't attain it on your own, and once attained it bears much fruit. The true Church is a Church that seeks to serve me with a zeal to give me glory. Does this Church consist of you? 'Cause this is not a game, and this is not a chance to see the spotlight. It's not about a church that seats a thousand, or a choir that sings on key. It's about the kingdom. And when will you make time to share my gospel. Make time to point the lost to a brighter day in eternity. Oh, and this is not a game! And this is not a chance to see the spotlight. It's not about a church that seats a thousand, or a choir that sings on key. It's about the kingdom. And when will you make time to share my gospel. Make time to point the lost to a brighter day in eternity. And make time for me. When will you make time for me? Edited October 11, 2012 by bethanyniez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Love it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) NM Edited October 11, 2012 by bethanyniez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendybird Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) NM Edited October 11, 2012 by bethanyniez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) There are a whole lot of Christians who don't believe that faith alone is the way to salvation and that it requires other things as well. Edited October 11, 2012 by kijipt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I especially like these lines. True religionisn't in your church positions it is not in superstitions, or church activities. Thanks for sharing.:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) NM Edited October 11, 2012 by bethanyniez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Bethany was not claiming that the song represents authentic Christianity in the sense that no other theology is authentic or "orthodox". She meant that it was authentic in the sense that you would say that someone was being "real" or "authentic". The song focuses on relationship and not on rituals and "playing church" just for the sake of rituals and "playing church". Edited October 11, 2012 by Jean in Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Bethany was not claiming that the song represents authentic Christianity in the sense that no other theology is authentic or "orthodox". She meant that it was authentic in the sense that you would say that someone was being "real" or "authentic". The song focuses on relationship and not on rituals and "playing church" just for the sake of rituals and "playing church". Yes, this. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) . Edited October 11, 2012 by 5LittleMonkeys . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) NM Edited October 11, 2012 by bethanyniez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justLisa Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 So to all of you Christians reading and thinking about being so utterly "Christian" in the verb form, I'll be your reminder of why *I* am no longer a Christian. Thank you parts of the thread for reminding me :glare: Wow. I am usually not snarky. Note to self. Never log on the internets before coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBeth Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) . Edited October 12, 2012 by TXBeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBeth Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) . Edited October 12, 2012 by TXBeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) :) Edited October 11, 2012 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Wow! This thread won't end well. Thanks for linking the song and posting the lyrics. It isn't my cup of tea music-wise (I'm not one for contemporary Christian music) but I'm sure it is a very nice song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I'm sorry but this just makes me want to scream and cry at the same time!!!!!!! How Christ like are you being right now?! Someone wants to share an uplifting song with everyone and all you can do is nitpick and get legalistic about it?! I'm so angry right now that my hands are shaking. Shame on you! People like you are the reason so many others scoff at "Christians". People like you make me want to not call myself Christian. The pagans and atheists on this board are nicer and less judgmental!!! If being a good Christian is that legalistic then I don't want any part of it. I've struggled with this for awhile and I think you just sent me over the edge. Thanks. :grouphug: Sweetie, no being a good Christian is not that legalistic. Don't give up on Christianity or lose your faith because of one person's questionable opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) :) Edited October 11, 2012 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) :grouphug: Edited October 11, 2012 by Parrothead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Wow! This thread won't end well. Thanks for linking the song and posting the lyrics. It isn't my cup of tea music-wise (I'm not one for contemporary Christian music) but I'm sure it is a very nice song. Ladies, I agree with Chucki. Plese take nasty comments to pm. Unless your GOAL is to get this thread locked/pulled. :D Those that know me on here know that it wasn't my intention to offend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 B shares a song that moves her to Christ, and someone snarks on her for it? Of course it won't end well, but not because of B's sharing. Where did I say the thread won't end will because of Bethany's sharing a song? You are reading way too much into my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Never mind. Edited October 11, 2012 by theretohere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 :grouphug: Sweetie, no being a good Christian is not that legalistic. Don't give up on Christianity or lose your faith because of one person's questionable opinion. :iagree: Christianity doesn't hinge upon a person, except the person of Christ. Don't let one person's opinion have such a profound effect. Look to the Holy Trinity for answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 :iagree: Christianity doesn't hinge upon a person, except the person of Christ. Amen to that, Milovany. (See. We have common ground. Christ! :001_smile:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) ... Edited October 11, 2012 by Lovedtodeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5LittleMonkeys Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) . Edited October 11, 2012 by 5LittleMonkeys . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Where did I say the thread won't end will because of Bethany's sharing a song? You are reading way too much into my post. I was agreeing with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) :) Edited October 11, 2012 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 But Christ is mentioned when salvation is mentioned, when repentence is mentioned, when church is mentioned... because He is in the center. I have sang songs that mentioned Christ and the whole group of people singing them did not know Him and did not realize that He was in the center. ;) That's what little old agnostic me thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 I'll delete as well. Me too! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I was agreeing with you. Oh, okay. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Me too! :001_smile: The song? Don't do that. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) :iagree: Christianity doesn't hinge upon a person, except the person of Christ. AMEN! I think that is what theretohere was trying to say... I think that we just aren't expressing ourselves well. Here I am a non-denominational Christian agreeing with all of my dear sisters and wishing we would stop focusing on our differences. Edited October 11, 2012 by Lovedtodeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Remove them and I'll be happy to delete what I quoted. It's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
********* Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 The song? Don't do that. :) No no, I meant I'd delete my quoting of theretohere's posts if she removed them, since she shared regret for posting. And LibraryLover, I didn't realize you were agnostic. I'm embarassed to say I get you mixed up in my mind with Faith Manor, who I know is a Christian. :tongue_smilie: You need an avatar for us visual people. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 AMEN! I think that is what theretohere was trying to say... I think that we just aren't expressing ourselves well. Here I am a non-denominational Christian agreeing with all of my dear sisters and wishing we would stop focusing on our differences. And LibraryLover, I did not realize that you were agnostic either. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 No no, I meant I'd delete my quoting of theretohere's posts if she removed them, since she shared regret for posting. And LibraryLover, I didn't realize you were agnostic. I'm embarassed to say I get you mixed up in my mind with Faith Manor, who I know is a Christian. :tongue_smilie: You need an avatar for us visual people. :D Hi Bethany, just remember I'm the baby grand piano and it is playing BACH! Lovely, lovely BACH! faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) No no, I meant I'd delete my quoting of theretohere's posts if she removed them, since she shared regret for posting. And LibraryLover, I didn't realize you were agnostic. I'm embarassed to say I get you mixed up in my mind with Faith Manor, who I know is a Christian. :tongue_smilie: You need an avatar for us visual people. :D I am an agnostic who enjoys religion. :D Nearly the whole of the human race has worshiped something, in various forms. You can't have history without religion. So, really, I enjoy history, and the whole human mess of it. I enjoy religious services of all types. My mother 'was saved' several years ago. I go to church with her for special occasions (Mother's Day and the like), and I feel sad she worries so about me. I wish I could change that for her, but I can't. I can see her Jesus brings great peace and joy to her heart. I am for peace and joy. My mother's ministry is feeding and clothing the poor. She is not legalistic, and I respect she is walking her path. I wouldn't like to hear anyone say she is not authentic because she wear capris instead of skirts, or gives Halloween candy to kids. :) Or likes a certain type of music. Edited October 11, 2012 by LibraryLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 AMEN! I think that is what theretohere was trying to say... I think that we just aren't expressing ourselves well. Here I am a non-denominational Christian agreeing with all of my dear sisters and wishing we would stop focusing on our differences. That was my point. Ugh. :crying: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fairy Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thanks for sharing Bethany, it reminded me that today begins the Year of Faith for us Catholics. From Pope Benedict XVI: "The Year of Faith....is a summons to an authentic and renewed conversion to the Lord, the one Savior of the world." I figured you'd all appreciate his use of the word authentic. :lol: :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 AMEN! I think that is what theretohere was trying to say... I think that we just aren't expressing ourselves well. Here I am a non-denominational Christian agreeing with all of my dear sisters and wishing we would stop focusing on our differences. AMEN! AMEN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thanks for sharing Bethany, it reminded me that today begins the Year of Faith for us Catholics. From Pope Benedict XVI: "The Year of Faith....is a summons to an authentic and renewed conversion to the Lord, the one Savior of the world." I figured you'd all appreciate his use of the word authentic. :lol: :001_smile: Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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