Well, there's the sexy beast rays shooting out all over :LOL:. I just go by clothing size. I am evidently a solid person. My weight and size don't align so I just watch my clothes. Any bid pods on the area for a one time baseline? I have used those measurement calculators to just track loss while I was losing. As for the butt, I come from a long line of board people. I work hard to have any curve back there a'tall.