chanda7 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Has anyone found a free copy of this book on the Internet? I found Intermediate Language Lessons on Google books, but not Primary Language Lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbollin Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I did see one a while back. But it was not the Emma Serl book. It is sometimes referred to as the Sheldon PLL ah ha.! here it is. PLL, Sheldon -crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmomof2boys Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Thank you for the link. This book looks interesting. I was able to download it to my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Awesome! Thank you! Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I think I like this version better than the Serl version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I think I like it better, too! I read the first 20 lessons, and then I read a few random lessons later in the book (there are 115 lessons!) and I think this will be perfect for me to use with my daughter next year in second grade. THANK YOU to Crystal for providing this link!! Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Better and better still! Here is Sheldon's Advanced Language Lessons, the second book! Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 In doing some looking, I have discovered that if you search Google Books for "language lessons," the first page has at least five hits that appear to be along the same general vein as Serl's and Sheldon's books. It appears to me that these books are representative of a style of grammar books from the early 20th century (or slightly earlier) and that there are several choices of specific texts available. The Sewell books cover early elementary through high school in three volumes. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Thanks for that second link to the Advanced Language Lessons. Does anyone know, can you bring the file to be printed and binded without any hassle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm planning to call Kinko's today and ask. I'll let you know. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Kinko's said it would be $15 to print and $4 for a comb binding and $5 for a spiral binding. That's more expensive than buying the Hillside version of Serl's PLL, so I think I am just going to print off a few pages at a time and put them in a three-ring binder. Since it's in the public domain, there's no problem with them printing it. I have been so geeked out about the Sheldon PLL! I have wondered for a long time what grammar I would use with the kids. I liked the idea of the Serl PLL but wasn't excited about the few samples I had been able to see. But since I found the Sheldon PLL yesterday, and got to read so much of it, I have been giddy about it! My dh can't understand why I am so excited about a century-old grammar book. I guess this just confirms my long-held suspicion that I am really a nerd at heart. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for calling. I have an office depot, it offers the option to upload the file and set it up for pick up, it will cost me about $16 with binding, double sided, and a front and back cover. I'll be nerdy with you. I'm very happy. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hmm, we have Office Depot, too, as well as Office Max. I'll have to ring them up and see what they can do. My husband works for an advertising agency. I wonder whether they could do this for me?? Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat19 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Better and better still! Here is Sheldon's Advanced Language Lessons, the second book! Tara About what grade level is this? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Based on my preview of the PLL, I think it would work for kids from 1st-4thish (although I think it would be very challenging for a first grader). I haven't looked as in-depth at the second one, but it's longer and more focused on using grammar for good writing. I think it would work for 4th-8thish, depending on the child's knowledge of grammar and writing abilities. It is billed as "the next book," so my assumption is that it's meant to follow directly on the heels of PLL. I also think that these books are more challenging than your average "language arts" books of today. (Yeah, I spent two hours last night perusing the books. :blush: ) Tara Edited January 6, 2009 by TaraTheLiberator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (Yeah, I spent two hours last night perusing the books. :blush: ) Tara Don't blush. In between declutter the house and caring for a sick toddler, I was slowly incorporating the book into my lesson planner program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Bumping this thread to see how you all still like it. I am wondering what age this would fit, and how it might compare to the CW Primers and WWE/FLL. I know ds6 isn't ready yet, but I'm looking forward to the next year....gleaning all I can.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4boys Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Am I missing something? I would like to download this book to look at and when I click on the link I can't find where I am supposed to do that. Help please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Am I missing something? I would like to download this book to look at and when I click on the link I can't find where I am supposed to do that. Help please? http://books.google.com/books?id=NpcAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=primary+language+lessons+sheldon&source=bl&ots=OK049nFp6Q&sig=w3ADsUKGQcKehD_nA7Bbv3x1axU&hl=en&ei=oR_qSeaCB9THtgfGjqWNBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8#PPP1,M1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mominbc Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I can't seem to read the book either. All it shows is the title page.:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4boys Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 That's all I get too. Where on that page do you download it? Sorry if I am just blind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn E Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 In the blue bar that goes across the top of the page just under the title of the book is a place that says "page." If you click on the arrows pointing to the right you will be able to go through the book. On the top right just beneath that bar is the place to click to download. pertaining to this link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixieB Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Am I missing something? I would like to download this book to look at and when I click on the link I can't find where I am supposed to do that. Help please? Next to the top right corner of the book "pages" there is a "download as PDF" option, and I think there is a text option under that. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I saw that one of you is in Canada. You can't download from Google Books if you are outside the US. There was another thread about this reently and someone else said they found the PLL available for download at another site, butI don't remember which one. Try searching TWTM for Sheldon PLL and see what you can find. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 try http://www.archive.org if your outside the USA, you should be able to get it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Here's the post I found about how to get it from the internet archive. Thanks to all of you!! I did manage to get the pdf of Sheldon's Advanced Language Lessons (which is the one I wanted) from the other link by searching at http://www.archive.org. I had to click on the "All Files: HTTP" link which gave me direct access to the PDF file (clicking on the "PDF on Google.com" link just gave me the same info page as going directly into Google Books.) I was also able to get the Serl Intermediate Language Lessons in the same way. So thanks again to all of you for your help :-) Nikita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4boys Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Ohhhhh yes, I am from Canada. Thank you for going to all this trouble for me!! I was wondering if maybe I was crazy. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmsmama Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I'm in Canada too and can't figure out how to get it from the archive site. If someone has it in pdf is it possible to email the two Sheldon books to me? Maybe just pm me if you can and I will pm you back my email to send it to if it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmsmama Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Tara is emailing them to me now. Thanks Tara :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto5blessings Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Hello all, I am new to the board, and very computer challenged...I can get to the websit but it won't let me inside the book....what do I do? Thanks so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunflowerlady Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 This thread has been so helpful to me.:) I was considering using Intermediate Language Lessons for the upcoming year. Now I have it downloaded as well as the Advanced Language Lessons. I can print off a few pages at a time and put them in a binder as we get to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mominbc Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I am also in Canada and can't print it off. Does it work through email. It looks fantastic and I would love to use it for my DD. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scdp Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Hello! I am from Canada as well and was wondering if someone could email me the pdf's as well? Thanks so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mominbc Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 One last try to see if someone could help out your northern neighbours:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenJewel Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks for that second link to the Advanced Language Lessons. Does anyone know, can you bring the file to be printed and binded without any hassle? Yes, I printed Sheldon's PLL in booklet form. Now all I have left to do is cut the pages in half and bind it. We used a jig and Gorilla glue on our last book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenJewel Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Bumping this thread to see how you all still like it. I am wondering what age this would fit, and how it might compare to the CW Primers and WWE/FLL. I know ds6 isn't ready yet, but I'm looking forward to the next year....gleaning all I can.:D I plan on starting PLL very slowly in 1st. We'll go as far as dd's understanding will go and then wait until 2nd to finish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenJewel Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 One last try to see if someone could help out your northern neighbours:D Yeah, I've emailed it to two people already. PM me your addresses and I'l email it to you and the other Canuck looking for it. :) How does one print a pdf in booklet form? Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenJewel Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yeah, I've emailed it to two people already. PM me your addresses and I'l email it to you and the other Canuck looking for it. :) How does one print a pdf in booklet form? Tara On my Acrobat Reader, booklet is one of the settings you can choose under Page Scaling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laylamcb Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 On my Acrobat Reader, booklet is one of the settings you can choose under Page Scaling. Oh, that. is. so. COOL! Please help me, HiddenJewel, as I'm spatially challenged: If I print this in booklet form, are all the pages going to come out right side up? And double-sided? So then I...do what, exactly? Thank you! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmschooling Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Can someone tell me what's the excitement over Sheldon's compared to Serl's? How are they different? Alike? And is the print big enough to read easily if you print it in booklet form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Can someone tell me what's the excitement over Sheldon's compared to Serl's? Well, it's free. :) Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmschooling Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Well, it's free. :) Tara LOL...okay, well, anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medieval Mom Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Has anyone found a free copy of this book on the Internet? I found Intermediate Language Lessons on Google books, but not Primary Language Lessons. :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nansk Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I have downloaded Sheldon's PLL as well as the samples of Serl's PLL and compared the two. Also compared them to Mary Hyde's books (on which EFTTC is based). I think they are all quite similar and all seem equally good (to me), although free is always better. You could also create your own LA-grammar worksheets using pictures, stories and poems that you and your child read together. What you have to aim to cover is punctuation, capitalization, parts of speech, picture study, comprehension and composition. These books just make it easier by compiling good prose extracts, poems and pictures into one book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Better and better still! Here is Sheldon's Advanced Language Lessons, the second book! Tara tara-this is an old thread, but i didn't realize sheldon had a 2nd book---this is wonderful. thanks for the (old but still useful) link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewel7123 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Just wondering if any of you have started working through Sheldon's PLL and if so how are you liking it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 My dd (2nd grade) is on lesson 80, and we love it. She regularly says that grammar is her favorite subject. We do much of it orally, and I skip the composition exercises, but she is learning a lot and, most importantly, is able to use it in her own writing and reading. I would have to say that it's a smashing success! In fact, I am so inspired by it that I just might move on to ALL after we complete FLL 3 (and possibly 4). The later lessons in ALL look daunting, but I'm so impressed by it that I just might tackle it! Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeefreak Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 :thumbup1: This is an awesome thread! I'm so glad it was resurrected. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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