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  1. wanted to share some experiences if it would help encourage. Not disagreeing with others about credits. Just stating some of this in a slightly different way with some personal stories. Yes, MFW offers 4 years of high school. Plenty of credits that are distributed with college entrance in mind. But if you don't do all of their material, life turns out fine in the end as long as you are getting the credits you want from somewhere. You plan to have mix and match approach with DE and trade schools, etc. That's totally ok. In fact, I've known people who worked for MFW who did not do all 4 years of mfw high school. In some cases not all 4 years had been written yet. So they had to get high school courses from other places. But that was years ago and those students are long out of college so getting credits in other ways was not an issue. Other people I've known who worked there after the program was finished still did dual enrollment, co-ops, and not all mfw to get their personal plans for high school graduation done. so if it worked for them, you're good too. I've known some customers who only did grades 9 and 10 and then do full time dual enrollment to get associates degree while getting high school done. just agreeing with ThisistheDay that if you do outside courses that counts on high school too. There are many correct paths to homeschooling. just remember: when you make your 4 year plan, use pencil because it will change. Then, there's mfw customers like me. I'm the oddball who did all 4 years of mfw high school with two children. Oldest did great in college (3 STEM degrees in 4 years.) That means whatever materials that are perceived as weak or incomplete didn't matter in the long run. all that stressing was for nothing. My kid that struggled in writing got to college and got As in composition. She was very well prepared for sciences and math. and the colleges we applied to did not care about the rosetta stone thing at all. maybe colleges in your state do. in which case, use something else for foreign language to be safe. I hear lots of bad stories that it matters even though I did not experience it personally. Even in the mfw 4 year plan they still recommend college class for some of the foreign language credit. We personally stopped after 2 years in foreign languages. meh. it's all good. Middle gal is doing her best as well even though it looks different (college degree through Clep exams and a few online classes).She's not her sister. and of course youngest is special ed and MFW doesn't offer that. I sometimes feel like the very oddball homeschooler who did use only 1 curriculum provider to get 'er done for two of my children. very little we did that wasn't mfw. very oddball case in homeschool is my family. not the norm at all. And that's my point for chiming in. Be encouraged that you don't have to do all 4 years of any one specific provider. But if you for some reason end up like me, using one provider for my super genius daughter and average daughter, just know it can work out ok too. since you were looking at mfw high school stuff, I wanted to make sure you see this part of their website with a planning guide for some little things to do along the way of homeschool high school. I found it helpful over the years to see some of that. https://www.mfwbooks.com/wps/portal/c/HSPlanningGuide
  2. here's the link to that part of khan site if it helps the student before doing the SAT math prep https://www.khanacademy.org/math
  3. cbollin

    Dumb question about double majors...

    My oldest is the oddball again. Graduated a few months ago. The transcript lists 3 BS degrees separately. BS in electrical engineering, BS in Mathematics. BS in computer science. (2 from school of engineering and 1 from school of sciences at her alma mater). Then in another part of transcript her program from engineering school was listed as a combined major, and the program from school of sciences was listed as single major with a concentration. I don't know if it the proper classification was "triple major", combine majors with concentration, or some other designation. but there are 3 distinct BS on the transcript.
  4. Oh, yes, I’m blushing that I didn’t understand it was about meeting pre req for high school. Thanks. In that case, to make it as painless as possible, I’d just ask the ap course teacher what is needed to best prove pre req when mom was teacher of record in the pre req course. It’s ok to ask a year or so before needed (and yes, the teacher might change.) It could be as easy as keeping tests and lab book for teacher to look at or doing the final exam at the right timing when taking the equivalent of pre req course. I’m not sure of other people’s opinions on this. I think doing something like CLEP for chemistry and then AP chemistry seems wrong path to approach the pre req for Chem. just to make sure you know I'm probably not a good source for AP. My oldest was a triple STEM major in university (and graduated top of class) but never did AP classes. So I know nothing about how to get into an AP course in high school.
  5. @DaisyCD in many areas, there are private employment networks (not just VR) who participate in apprenticeship programs via Ticket to Work. You might glean some info from the Ticket to work website and listen to some archived webinars to find connections and ideas about stuff. (I'm doing that currently. learning what they offer and don't. it may not be what we use, but it's useful information to me and wanted to share it with you. In my daughter's case (which is very different from your son's case), we're doing private sector route on work options and not bothering right now with the wait lists either with ssi, PASS or Ticket2work, etc. Besides, I've heard mixed reviews from my friends on the caseworkers and job coaches. oh my. one of my friends plans to move to another state to get better services. Another one put her adult child on plane to another state to be in job corps (which your son is too old for, I know.. not the point). One of my friends is the advocate for her son and some other people to get the good job coaches. I say all of that in hopes of encouraging you that lots of us are doing the best we can with the system and outside the system and yes it's frustrating. My prayers for you echos what you said up the thread in that you see God stepping in soon and letting you know the next step for employment and all of that.
  6. I wasn’t sure I understood what your goal is with placement (not trying for high school or college). I feel like once you tell me I’ll blush that I misread it. If it means that you might transfer to public or private school, then you need to jump through the hoops they will want to see and do. You asked about specific end of course tests. In my state the public school students take state wide EOC. practices for those are on dept of ed website and some high schools. I don't know many homeschoolers who take those. But stuff like that varies by state so I mention it. Wanted to share my experiences of what I did and learned when I wanted confidence for my mommy issued grades. Long story on rainy day where I live. long post. I have graduated two so far. When oldest was in grade 9, I wasn’t sure I felt confident on my mommy grades either. When oldest took ACT, I saw results and decided the mommy grades were right on target. When middle gal took ACT and was in average, but college ready, I thought ok, I have appropriate subjective feel on this. For subjects that weren’t on ACT, I figured if my gut was right on English, reading and math, then it was close enough for those subjects as well. Since the science section on ACT was not really about content, I didn’t worry on that. If I needed more than that for being confident on the transcript, I would have found someone at my church who works in public or private schools and asked (and paid for the time) for their opinion on work level compared to their students in various levels. For me that would have been a good way to have outside opinion if the need was not about college credit early. For giving grades in coursework in our homeschool high school we used the publisher’s recommendations on grading and rubrics. For a self designed course, I tried to make some objective ways to give a grade based on percentages and such. I found samples of class syllabus around on web and based on a few of those as models. I looked at the publicly available files at NARHS website. Science courses like Chemistry: I wasn’t doing self designed courses so I just graded by the publisher and that was fine. Foreign Language: I was doing regular high school level courses for checking the boxes that 2 credits were there. I knew that if my children needed foreign language for their degree, they’d be asked to take placement test at the college if they wanted to do same language as in high school, or just start at 101 in a new language. If my goals were fluency in the subject, I would have outsourced. Oldest took a CLEP in college algebra. I did use that as an extra way for me to know that what I was doing for grading her math was going to be ok. (verification). She didn’t get to use that CLEP exam for credit in her degree. But it sure gave me confidence. She also took Analyzing/Inter. Lit CLEP and her college counted that for gen ed. By the way, she has graduated college with top grades from them. So in some ways, my painless approach for deciding if mommy grades were not exaggerated was ACT score in high school, and be confident with homeschool high school publisher’s recommendations on grading work. We used materials that are easily considered college prep which is why I could be confident. Middle child did not do her nine different CLEP exams until the year after high school graduation. She was working at regular high school level in material while in high school, so I didn’t need to prove anything beyond ACT in grade 11. Her score showed she was college ready and average. So yeah, all of those As and Bs were just right. For college credit with CLEP she used the free courses on ModernStates dot org along with practice tests from Petersons (free at our library). She’s passed many of those on first try and community college has awarded much credit. I know she would have struggled during high school to use CLEP as a way to validate mommy grades. She wasn’t ready. Given how courses were graded in her semester at community college this fall, I’m more confident now that I was doing a fine job and my mommy grades were just fine. Don’t know if any of that helps in your journey. If you want to use CLEP, I’d encourage you to take a look at modernstates dot org site and use their materials for prep work and test fee vouchers. See if your library has the Peterson’s practice tests (ask the reference desk.) another good prep is REA prep books. Although there were some changes in a handful of clep test, it was not in content. It was more of instead of asking 12 questions on XYZ sub topic, it now asks 15 in that subtopic and then fewer than before in another subtopic. It wasn't huge jumps like going from 10 questions in sub topic to being 100 of the questions. so I think modern states and practice tests are still good to use.
  7. again, different location and situation from yours. But several people in my area who get SSI and other benefits are also part of Ticket to Work program. maybe it's wait list too in your area, but wanted to mention it. https://choosework.ssa.gov/about/how-it-works/index.html situations vary of course. not all of those opportunities are only coordinated through VoRehab. check the FAQ over there to see about which benefits are still kept and all of that Iwithout reductions while on ticket to work. and I hope you can find someone local in your area who can advocate for navigating it. also, around here if a person is at high risk of becoming homeless very soon then person is moved up on waiting list. I've only heard parents and aides talking about this program while we're all sitting around at special olympics. so I don't know much.
  8. Julie, I have used both Chem 101 and Friendly Chemistry. My youngest used them. She has developmental disabilities that severely impact her language ability so we have to use remedial stuff. Chem 101 is what I would call an intro to history of chemistry, with some science for non majors who need to check off that a science class was done. Most of the video time is learning about the periodic table and some fun history with chemistry. Because my daughter has many labels in special ed, I was ok to call it part of her high school conceptual chemistry, but in reality I used it as a semester with the physics 101 dvd and called both together Intro to physical sciences. I do not think chem101 is a full credit of material even if done with the extras suggested on the pdf. I think it's about a semester of material. although others disagree, I think the time frames given on the chem101 accreditation pdf booklet are greatly exaggerated to make a full year of clock hours toward a carneige unit. There are mini labs that are high interest kind of thing to generate interest in students who otherwise really don't want to do science. shown on the video and then you do them at home and write a short (150-200 word) report about it. I'm not anti 101 series. I used it with my "remedial" student who is not college bound. For my students who have average or above average IQ, we just watched the videos for fun at end of school year. But for my child with lower than average IQ, it was a good thing to use. The math level needed was very low. I think there are 3 equations to balance in the whole course. It was designed as get people interested in the topic (in my opinion of course. others see it differently) My cover school would have been just fine if she used it as an intro to general chemistry, or chemistry for non science majors. I however, thought differently and that chem 101 was a semester of "intro to grade 9 physical science". it paired nicely with physics 101 to round out the year. Friendly Chemistry felt more like a science class instead of a history approach to science. My youngest used it. I was wow'ed that she was learning. My husband holds a phd in chemistry and was glad she was being exposed to the information. Some reviewers claim it is good for the advanced jr. high student who plans to learn basics early and then get ap chem in high school and all of that. I don't disagree. But at the same time, that does not mean it is jr. high level. I think with 32 ish chapters, FC was designed to be full year of material. I had access to some of the video readings of the chapter via SchoolHouseTeachers. com. I found that helpful for my student to hear the material. When those videos were not available any longer (we were past chapter 12 or something?) I read the chapters out loud and/ or summarized the material. Labs and activities were fine. Math to prealgebra was needed. I helped my daughter learn how to do conversions. She really got the idea of basics of the electron shell stuff using their game called the doo wap board. We didn't do all of the games. Toward the end of volume 2 (semester 2) the material was getting above her ability level, but was not hard for average student ability in my opinion. It was just more than my child could do or needed. FC was the main text for my dd's Conceptual Chemistry class and I called it a full credit. I would have been fine using it with my average IQ child as a full course. My oldest (who is above average academic iq) needed chemistry for those going into engineering, so she used 2nd ed apologia. (showing our ages, huh?) Due to interests of youngest, we added in kitchen based chemistry labs to have that science lab at home feel to it. for that we used Gourmet Lab: The Scientific Principles behind your favorite foods. (NTSA publishers). That book was designed for grades 6-12 to have lab experience in chemistry. We did about 10 of the 15 labs listed. that's how I did this topic with my child who needs remedial and also needs fewer words. I don't know how she compares to other children who don't have as many labels with special ed. hope some of my experiences help you make decisions in your needs.
  9. I'm not in Fl or WA. But am dealing with special ed diploma in another state. Our state has "alternate academic diploma" standards for math and language arts and other subjects for students who seem to fit criteria you listed. I'll send you some links in private messages to not clutter up the forum with those course titles and standards. I've noticed on NARHS (north america regional high school) that they issue diploma with 17.5 credits, requiring a minimum of 2 math and allow career math with accommodations. They also give certain credits for passing GED at certain levels. But I'd also recommend talking with the trade school about accommodations for special ed with the IQ and documentation you have. They may have options.
  10. I'm not sure I'm much help. I'm the type who needs to see a practice test to be able to figure out if my children were ready. Even if someone said you need to have covered through chapter such and such of publisher X's alg 2, I still need to see the practice test to know for certain. Here's a link to practice psat test with math and other sections.https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/psat-nmsqt-practice-test-1.pdf and then for details on the focus, this link may help. Once on this link, you'll need to click on the sections in Focus to learn details about "heart of algebra", "passport to advanced" and the other category. https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/inside-the-test/math How much to get high score? not being snarky here, but as much as possible to get as many right on that practice. Because publishers will have different scope and sequence, some books will say through early part of Alg 2 will do it. Other publishers you may need to be further along. But I'm sure others in the hive will have a better answer than that. Just wanted to share the links if that level of detail helps you the way it helps me.
  11. It's worth asking with ASU about tuition rates for out of state residents of specific counties of contiguous states. Some state schools have programs like that.
  12. This may be at a lower reading level than the students you are working with. I have enjoyed using Susan Traugh's daily living skills/transition2life booklets over on teacherspayteachers https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Store/Susan-Traugh I'm using them with teens who have some intellectual and developmental disabilities so the lower reading level (but age content) works for us. I waited for some sale on that site to get a nice price reduction for a bundle.
  13. I used the lesson planner from My Father's World. 3rd edition jacobs. I think they (mfw) sell the planner separately but I bought it with package with text and solutions. It was definitely not every.single.problem. nor odd/evens kind of thing. I was told they have a staff person who was/is career high school math teacher who picked out problems sets to do each day. Worked for us to do that. oldest did get math degree among her stem majors.
  14. cbollin

    Brag, but with a Purpose :-)

    awesome! My oldest daughter has a similar story (but no AP background) about homeschooling. apologia at home. saxon with mfw lesson plans, etc. nothing special or anything by standards seen on this group. ECs were youth group and archery. nothing speculator. Yet she learned how to learn. She was motivated to do very well in university. Graduated with 3 STEM degrees (electrical engineering, comp sci, math) in 4 calendar years from abet accredited. passed FE exam on first try within days of graduation ceremony. And yes, she was in Tau Beta Pi (aka top 1/8 of engineering students). hope my tag on brag encourages someone as well. well done to you! and hope your daughter has fun polishing the membership bent in TBP. don't wait until night before.
  15. cbollin

    PE Grade

    I'm in a state where most homeschoolers use cover schools. The cover school I use wants letter grades even for PE (which needs to be on the transcript). I ended up looking up the syllabus online for various PE high school courses. Realized an A was achieved in public schools by attendance and attitude and maybe a project (such as learning how to monitor heart rate during activity). It was never grade on "athletic ability" or something like that. Show up. Do it. get dressed right and don't give them trouble and actually participate. Pretty much like I remember it in the 80s. So with homeschool it was easy to give A for PE. One child did homeschool archery league all 4 years and that counted. One child did aerobic dance fitness at home along with logging hours of mowing the yard, recreational swimming, etc. And youngest gets her through special olympics and a local homeschool PE class. Shows up. Does her best (in spite of different abilities and some lacks thereof). has fun. goes to tournament day. win or less, she gets an A. (edit to add: we did have some academic work in PE via monarch's physical fitness elective. that was to learn about cardio, strength, stretch.)
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