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  1. I can share a few things that I observed. My middle used first edition a few years ago and she enjoyed the text. She is not majoring bio, but enjoys learning nature topics. Used this text in grade 12, and she’s doing very well in her college biology non majors. (lots of reading). I remember when she was done with this book she said it was one of her favorite courses in high school and was a little sad the book was over. She was interested in the topic and enjoyed the style of presentation. I know other people will have other reactions. If I had made my oldest do this course, oh dear. anyway. I got the mp3 audio for middle gal to listen as reading along. She loved looking at slides and doing some stuff. (you could probably search for images online as a good enough sub if the slides are too expensive) I'm pretty sure we skipped any in person dissections this time (and watched those or did a virtual version). and our brine shrimp (aka sea monkeys LOL) didn't go that great. but that's a minor thing, right? I still have my first edition book and can only look at online samples to comment. Same author on both. So I’d expect content changes to be minor. This author is also the author of “general science third edition” if that info was not known. Looking at samples vs my book table of contents: Modules orders are same. Subsections seem the same names and order as well. Experiments: I notice experiments 1.1, and 4.2 are different from first to current editions. An experiment was added in module 7. layout of material goes from “first edition apologia” to current layout. Colors are more popping in current edition. Minor editorial changes (changing word choice from “additionally” to “second”. Stuff like that) I like the photograph and diagram improvements. Most of the time it’s the same figure, but the fresh look is nice. And of course with second edition there are more student support resources. I know the first few page of module 1 approach the introduction differently. But it has the feel of minor rewrites to me.
  2. then, there's the Evangelical Pres. Church. This link will take you to their "about us" page. https://epc.org/about/ I don't know which flavor of Pres you need. but if they are EPC, that has some basics of history, governance, beliefs. unsinkable, you might see the church you're giving tour has a brochure available to help on tour? I was visiting a "reformed pres" church one time for homeshcool co-op and they have a little handout thing. It was new to me that they do not use instruments on Sundays. But our kind of Pres uses them (and with skilled musicians and it's a big part of our beliefs and yet not part of my friend's practices. that's cool. ) So they knew it was a FAQ and had it on hand to answer. Maybe this historical place has one too?
  3. and I've read on the blog for the Common Application that it's not as much of a flag during admissions as some think if you have a college class that does not show up on high school. You still have to send the college transcript. Here, read the whole page of course but https://appsupport.commonapp.org/applicantsupport/s/article/How-do-I-report-a-college-course-I-took-during-high-school-in-Courses-Grades "If you are not receiving high school credit for the course, you do not need to report this course in Courses & Grades." so if they don't need to see it, then it's ok if it is not getting high school credit. with that said, agreeing with others who stated other options with listing, etc. is ok too. I mean, it's PE.
  4. following along on this thread. I wanted to try that with middle gal with attention and confidence, and auditory processing issues so we'd have more practice with low stakes. But never tried it and well, here we are still trying to get confidence at age 21 to do this. (homeschool mom failure). I'm going PM you with some info about one of the local driving school's options. sign, it was so much easier with oldest child for us. sigh...
  5. Before putting it in portfolio or transcript, run it by the powers that be at your cover school. See if they have a preference on it.
  6. I'm thankful all is well. Hope this isn't considered tacky but if anyone reading this is wondering what they can do to teach safety drills on this matter before their student goes to college or work, FEMA has a short training "course" for free designed for non law enforcement. https://training.fema.gov/is/courseoverview.aspx?code=IS-907 again, I'm glad chiguirre's daughter and others are ok. sorry if my timing to encourage safety training feels awkward.
  7. We enjoyed Friendly Chemistry for a less math high school chemistry. First semester needed pre algebra. And then I think some limited algebra was needed toward end of second semester. Did not seem "middle school" in scope and sequence to us.
  8. thanks for update. I sure hope you get in touch with someone today and get those screen shots. Something is not right. I truly hope it gets resolved soon and that it is not "just you." not to confuse you more on the transcript thing , but this article on the Common App blog seems to give option that not all college courses have to be given high school credit. so maybe ? https://appsupport.commonapp.org/applicantsupport/s/article/How-do-I-report-a-college-course-I-took-during-high-school-in-Courses-Grades quoted from that link "When high school students simultaneously take college courses through a college or university, this is known as dual enrollment. For Courses & Grades, only courses receiving high school credit (i.e. appearing on your high school transcript) should be reported in this section. If you are not receiving high school credit for the course, you do not need to report this course in Courses & Grades." disclaimer: neither my oldest nor middle had to use Common application for their college/ universities. Each of those had option to use the university's application. So I'm not speaking from experience of using the Common App. I'm just sharing the information showing that there are allowances for variation in this. edit for clarity: * (also on that link is a point we all agree on ) quote: "You must still send official transcripts from your high school(s) AND any college(s) you attended. " (emphasis mine)
  9. I do not agree that giving her an A in a course is the "wrong thing" or "grade inflation". If she were at a brick and mortar high school and took PE and it didn't require much effort (show up, have good attitude), they'd give the A. Even my middle daughter took a credit bearing PE course at community college and got an A with little effort (walked 2 miles every day, logged in, and took some quizzes that were straight from the text). She needed one "free elective" in her associates degree plan. If you don't want to call it anything on your high school, that's up to you. Yes, you'll still have to send the college transcript to another college. But if it is "regular level high school history", it's going to be ok as is. hang in there. It's not a wrong thing.
  10. hmm.. I missed something or policies are very different here from other places. There's a big difference between "not using this college course as part of high school course listings" versus "don't send this CC transcript". Where I live, you don't have to list a college course as part of your high school transcript. Yes, if you attend a college, you have to send that college's transcript to other places you apply. But that is nothing to do with it being on your high school courses.
  11. I hope OP gets it all worked out and all of that. good thoughts and vibes, encouragement, etc on your behalf. (and I'm another voice saying, it's one high school credit if you decide to put it on high school transcript. consistency is a good thing with 3 or 4 university/college credit course generally is 1 credit. and I wouldn't bother to supplement. If student is interested, she'll learn it again someday. You did a good job, homeschool mama) mostly wanted to chime in to say this thread is making me appreciate my middle daughter's online community college experience all the more. Her online speech class involved both written material for grades, and giving 2 speeches in front of approved audience even if it was recorded and uploaded for the instructor. *had to show the audience in the video and meet certain requirements) Also, our statewide e-campus has local liaison with community college in case things go weird. One course my dd's instructor "disappeared" after 4 weeks. Turns out the instructor had to ask for medical leave to care for toddler son's return of cancer. But instructor's department chair didn't follow through and get the students a sub. Yikes! we had alternate contact info to try to find out what was going on. Instructor apologized to everyone and somehow finished the course and grading and told students to call and text on her personal cell phone and she'd help while sitting with chemo stuff. She changed deadlines and thankfully it was a small course (20 students). Amazing dedication on her part. But my point is that we had a good online community college experience with our "tn ecampus" option and it was well done with local contacts even when instructor was in another part of the state and students from all across. And I hope that OP gets positive resolution. anyway, I'm sorry OP's child is going through this. I wish others have a good experience like we are in a different state.
  12. If you go to a college that accepts ACE credits: heads up on the aleks for stats credit: be sure to check the details on which stats you can take and which are duplicates. That can be found on the ACE site http://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=browse.getOrganizationDetail&FICE=1004997 of course, you have to make sure the place you end up at accepts ACE credits or which ones. I'm complicating it. sorry. and seconding the idea of figure out what degree you want first, then resourcefully plan how to get credits you need with CLEP or other, and of course where is a personal decision on it too (you might want to be on campus, or have state college, or you might have other places.)
  13. long answer: I'll second the idea of using Modern States. watch videos, and also read the assigned pages in the online textbook provided too. Get voucher for CLEP exam. and they will also reimburse test center fee after you take the exam. My slow to average middle daughter was able to use modernstates to pass 9 clep exams in about 8-9 months time. This was her "gap year" and wasn't trying to do it all at once in less time either. Her cc accepted all of them. She took 8 classes to finish associates (well, that will be done in a few more weeks, but... yeah). Originally that was the end goal. But now, she's attempting a bachelors at a university that takes a lot of transfer credit from clep, "ace transcript" (so study.com and sophia.org, and other). It's "just in case" degree in liberal studies. but still, this is more than we originally thought we were planning. Check your library for any access to CLEP practice tests. (or even REA prep books) In my state, there is a statewide free online access to the Peterson's brand of CLEP practice tests. Maybe your library systems have similar options. (edit to add: on our library website, it's part of online reference materials and called Testing and Education Reference Center powered by Peterson's. ask at your library.) Another option for practice exams is REA. You can buy printed book (new or used), check library, do just the online practice exams from them after you've done test prep. Dept. challenge exams: that can be interesting topic where it seems that no matter what, the student does not pass. Maybe there are some success stories out there. I keep waiting to hear them. I keep hearing the stories where it wasn't positive outcome. For public speaking and any intro statistics, look into a DSST exam option if your schools accept them. DSST are similar in some way to CLEP, but published by different company. Check your local CC if they accept those (you might have to ask about that under the older name for DSST which is DANTES. no, you don't have to be military to do them). I've heard good things about using a free course on Learner.org for statistics, with the caveat that it was the "older version of that course". I don't know how the "new" version is different,. look on learner.org for a course called "against all odds". Someone I know did that course as an adult after years had passed from high school math, and passed the DSST intro stats exam and it was a quick A to B point process. for some exams, my daughter found using the paid subscription on InstantCert to be helpful for the flashcards. And as she continues to pursue the idea of non traditional route to getting a bachelors degree, we are finding the information on the non paid portions of instantcert's message board (degreeforum) to be helpful. Not all degrees can or should be done with non traditional methods. But some work that way. Not sure what you degree you are going for. So that might not apply to you. In my 21 y.o daughter's case, she is going for a BA in liberal studies at one of the "big 3" that take almost the entire degree in transfer. That's a whole other discussion though. You might need an on campus degree for your studies. Or you might just take those courses you are interested in and transfer and mix/match game. I know that's not traditional. One thing to double check with the local state school that you think you might want to transfer to: will they accept the credits from the community college that are via CLEP, or is it the case they'll only accept actual courses from the CC for transfer and some of the specific CLEPS? I've heard stories in some places (not all of course), that student run into obstacles with that. Hopefully that's an non issue and you already checked that based on what you wrote. But the nuisance is important to ask them if you did not do that already. It will vary. The state school might say one thing if you completed the associates requirements, and another if you didn't. But I've heard stories where it mattered. So double check on that if you did not ask that nit picky transfer detail already. To the thoughts about how long will it take when you're not fresh from a similar high school course? Most of those REA guides I mentioned earlier suggest a 4-6 week planning time with their materials and that includes practice test time, and not super cramming the info either. And at least one study guide/lesson planner out there on this topic has high school students prepping for 2 CLEPs at once. I've been out of school for decades, but homeschooling and being part of my children's homeschool studies kept me more current than I realized on some of this. Maybe you'll have that feeling too.
  14. agreeing with the other person who said twtm was taking about the books before the rights were sold to master books. if you like to have information and details about stuff, I know this much. The MFW version is very closely identical in content to the "original" style Writing Strands. Most of the changes are cosmetic in nature with how the pages look and how each lesson has start and stop points that are more obvious than the original. Example of what I mean is original might have said in level 3 book that a lesson took 9 days, but it was not necessarily super obvious where a natural stopping place was each day in the "lesson". So, the mfw version makes those pauses more obvious. And some of the other changes are minor in my opinion and this is an example of it. Some people were clutching their pearls over a sentence in the original WS that said something like parents don't always know you can follow directions so you have to tell them. (Seriously, that was hot topic discussion back in the day that some people over reacted saying WS was encouraging rebellion, uhnmm.. anyway.. moving on). Well, mfw removed that humor sentence. Or maybe it was really master books that removed it since they have the "rights', and mfw just reprints "just the writing part of the master books version and gave it a new name". (huh>?) but you get the idea it was editorial changes, versus major content changes. master books: took original, and added in a reading component. Now, in the original writing strands it just told parents to "take a week off of writing and read together" or close enough to that idea. you'd work for a week on writing. take a week for reading. So master books helps make sure that is done in the new books. original writing strands did not offer that within the book itself. it just say go pick out stuff you like to read and do that. so master books scheduled stuff. MFW on the other hand, does what it has always done with WS and schedules it 2 days a week and then schedules reading/read aloud all along. That's why they (mfw) got to reprint WS as just the writing, without the reading and without the master book daily lesson suggested planner. see? all the same basic product (original, mfw) so, really it's all the same thing old WS and "new" WS. the content of the writing lessons did not really significantly change. master book added in a daily lesson planner to guide through the books to have stop/start points for daily work. made it look visually nicer. and maybe added an extra feature on the evaluation rubric (but i'm not sure on that) master books intermediate book 1 of WS is the same writing lessons as original WS book 4 (including a cleared up version of that thanksgiving dinner food drop sentence) and of course the addition of a literature component with specifics instead of "just take a week off and enjoy books with parent" all I know is that mfw over marketed writing for today as something new. It was so identical to the original ws 3 and 4 that unless you knew about the pearl clutch internet drama sentence, you wouldn't really know much to look for. but they couldn't use the same title. business reasons. now you have some backstory with years of this stuff. I doubt it helps you with which one you want to buy.
  15. We did. My oldest dd used those about 6-7 years ago, and middle dd used them about 3-4 years ago. (youngest has too many academic struggles and mfw is too advanced for her ability.) The BJU text and activity book was fine for history. Textbook, what can you say? I remember not being a super fan of the Stobaugh book in Us to 1877, but endured it and went on it life. I remember my oldest saying things like at least she realized she wouldn’t agree with everything she’d read from a professor. Oldest in grade 12 did not click with the Bible stuff in MFW. I didn’t require that part as a class and senioritis had set it. We liked the economics in grade 12 for discussion and thinking and all of that. There’s probably some post out there from when all of that was fresh in my mind. All I know is that many years after the fact, both of them did fine in college and that’s more of what I remember than details about the years. Oldest would tell me her college freshman year that trudging through all of that mfw stuff helped for college. Middle took a different route for college and did a lot of “credit by exam” (clep). Not sure what you want to know about the stuff. Hope someone who has newer memories shares. I should double check to make sure things haven't changed much from back then.
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