Kathryn Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 https://blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/ Wow, what is the possible justification for deleting a user's already-owned files? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Yikes. His point about being forced to pay over and over again instead of buying it outright can already be seen in software. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechWife Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 This would be an interesting addition to the current thread on Liberty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joules Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Wow, thanks for posting that. Dh is a composer and performer and has lots of his own music on his Mac. I don't think he signed up for Apple Music, but I sent him that as a warning to back-up and be careful. iTunes feels like it takes over the computer anyway, so it wouldn't surprise me if it implemented that "feature" someday, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I think the justification is the eula. You accept it, you accept the consequences. I'm both shocked and not a bit surprised by this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewb Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Apple is not stealing your music. There are definitely problems but it is not deleting your stuff without your permission. Plus, I think the author was kind of obnoxious for not being upfront that he had a backup. The real point is that you should be backing up your stuff regardless of itunes. http://www.imore.com/no-apple-music-not-deleting-tracks-your-hard-drive-unless-you-tell-it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justasque Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 https://blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/ Wow, what is the possible justification for deleting a user's already-owned files? In part I think it's wrapped up in copyright - if it's not an authorized version (in other words, it's a pirated version), then Apple may have some liability if they host it and serve it to you. If you read it carefully, the early info about iCloud did make it clear that they would do this - I haven't kept up with it so I don't know if they are still clear about how iCloud works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onceuponatime Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Apple is not stealing your music. There are definitely problems but it is not deleting your stuff without your permission. Plus, I think the author was kind of obnoxious for not being upfront that he had a backup. The real point is that you should be backing up your stuff regardless of itunes. http://www.imore.com/no-apple-music-not-deleting-tracks-your-hard-drive-unless-you-tell-it This. I have a friend who works for Apple. She says this is usually happening because people click OK without carefully reading first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 This bothers me as a writer at lot... At what point will some company delete my info off the cloud because they can??? I really need to start making backups of all my writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechWife Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I didn't sign up for Apple Music, yet they deleted files from my iTunes. They also copied files - I have two and three copies of many songs now. I'm not paying for Apple Music. I'll just rip the CD's again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuzu822 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I sent this to my husband, and he said it sounds like a case of not fully understanding how iTunes Match (now Apple Music) works. We've used Match for years (definitely not without issues), and he said that when we set it up it he remembers having to delete the files or create another library. We have several iTunes libraries on both computer and external hard drives. Not all of them use Match. It's been great for having cloud access to our music without using up storage on phones, but it also means I can't access audiobooks I've purchased via iTunes. :/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpyTheFrog Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 This. I have a friend who works for Apple. She says this is usually happening because people click OK without carefully reading first. I think the length of license agreements (especially with ALL CAPITAL LETTERS THAT ARE HARD TO READ) is out of control. I think the longest I've seen was 57 pages! Seriously, that is probably about as long, maybe even longer, than all the documents we had to sign at our mortgage closing, when I took 1-2 hours to read/skim everything. It is not reasonable to expect people to read that many pages every time they update their software or install a program that costs way less than a doorknob to a house. I say this as someone who thinks people need to read contracts. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 With an Android device, my understanding is that users only need to pay for an App, Music, etc., once. If Apple has a different method, IMO that's bad for the consumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 My iPad will no longer sync files ripped from CDs (or that were recorded by me and transferred over) since a couple of iTunes updates ago. I can add them to playlists and stream them-but not actually download them to listen to off wi-fi. DD11 is going to a summer program where she can take a music player, but not a phone or anything connected to the internet. We'd planned to load up an old iPod for her with just iTunes and the camera working-and if we can't download ripped CDs, there's no point. The next time I need to replace a device, it won't be with an apple device. Those playlists are required for me to be able to teach classes, camps, etc, and they include a lot of files from CDs (thousands of CDs), as well as quite a lot I've created for class situations. My windows phone has no such limits-but also doesn't have as good of sound quality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Although I have an iphone, an ipod, and a Mac laptop, I gave up on itunes years ago. It's seriously the worst program I have ever used. I'm not at all surprised that they are doing this. My son and I were thoroughly perplexed one day when we tried to listen to itunes radio (just like we had fewer than 12 hours earlier) and found it completely gone, replaced by Apple Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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