BlessedMom Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 To the best of my knowledge, none of the school districts in our local area teach diagramming. Do they teach diagramming in your local schools? Do you teach diagramming? Why or why not? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica_in_Switzerland Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I teach it because I think it's super cool. :-) I learned diagramming in seventh grade, and as a mathematically-minded person, I found that diagramming made grammar real, tangible, and it really stuck! You might not be able to tell from my usage, but I'm pretty competent in grammar and I thank my seventh grade diagramming for that. :-) We use Drawing Sentences by Montaux. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't keep track of or care what the local school does with their students. My kids learn diagramming because it's a very useful tool for grammar comprehension and writing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u2006kids Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 what is the best way (online options with Videos and Questions preferred ) to teach diagramming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermione310 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm not aware of online options, but CLE does a nice job of teaching diagramming in their LA curriculum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.Ivy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I love it! I first learned how to use it in a linguistics class for elementary school teachers in college. (Let me tell you, the attitudes of the students in that class, who were getting degrees in education, were terrible.... they couldn't figure out how to use commas correctly and were blatantly obvious about their disdain for learning simple grammar concepts... if those are the kind of teachers in the schools today, I doubt there is little, if any, grammar imstruction -- let alone diagramming!) Anyway, I had used Winston Grammar as a homeschooled student myself, and their parsing methods never did much for me. Grammar started to click for me once I began diagramming instead. I liken it to using bar graphs for word problems in math. I use Rod and Staff English and Lively Latin, both of which include diagramming. SWB has some good thoughts about why we should teach diagramming, and I'd find the articles and post them here, but I have run out of time for this morning. :-) I personally have found it most valuable when teaching Greek and Latin. My mom was one of those who fell for the idea that all students can learn to write well, if they just read good books. I am an example of someone who would have done much better with direct grammar instruction and diagramming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamiof5 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 We do it since it's included in R&S. No idea what public schools are doing around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermione310 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 what is the best way (online options with Videos and Questions preferred ) to teach diagramming I just googled "online sentence diagramming tutorial" and quite a few helpful links popped up. I'm not sure if you're looking for a full course, but there were several videos and such online at no cost that at least introduce diagramming at a conceptual level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiara.I Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It was never taught in my schools growing up and neither I nor my husband had ever heard of it until I started reading material about homeschooling. My mother, who is an English instructor at a local university and the department's acknowledged grammar maven, had never spoken to me about it, does not teach it or expect it, and in fact might not know how to do it. It seems to be an area thing--some places do it, some don't! We will probably do it because we're pretty happy with First Language Lessons and they do it, and since everybody else is doing it I wanna know how too! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amie Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I <3 diagramming! And I <3 Montaux's website. (His book is on my wishlist). I also enjoyed parsing sentences with Winston Grammar and thought it prepared me for diagramming afterwards. I don't know if our local public schools teach diagramming, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooCow Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 My dd thought sentence labeling (similar to the surely english way) WAS diagramming. She's been in ap/honors English since middle school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u2006kids Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 http://www.homeschoolbuyersco-op.org/homeschool-curriculum-language-arts-spell-vocab-grammar/ Have any one tried Get Smart Digital Program - Learn Grammar Through Diagramming! For Grades 5 -Adult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I was a high school English teacher; I don't teach diagramming to my dc. Ime, I haven't found diagramming particularly helpful, and in many cases, it just makes grammar more confusing. Maybe I just don't know how to teach it? Maybe I'm burnt out because one of my college classes was -- literally -- nothing. but. diagramming. :eek: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegoat Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Schools here do not teach it. We did some diagramming last year - grade 4, because it was in the program we used. I don't know that we will do much more in the future, though dd10 enjoyed it. I think it is one tool students can use to look at grammar, and it might be most useful for very visual students. I did not do grammar at all in school. In university I learned to parse sentences a different way - a lot of my teachers were European and diagramming IIRC is a North American thing. I don't consider it the be all - it was only invented in the 19th century, when people were interested in classifying everything. It really isn't indispensable for learning to write well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerforest Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 http://www.homeschoolbuyersco-op.org/homeschool-curriculum-language-arts-spell-vocab-grammar/ Have any one tried Get Smart Digital Program - Learn Grammar Through Diagramming! For Grades 5 -Adult Yes, we used Grammar Revolution last year when DD was in 5th. She liked it a lot. The lessons were clear, and she learned a lot. I think the video quality is not quite professional, but DD didn't mind so I didn't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALB Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I also love diagramming! It's such a logical way to "organize" a sentence, and visualize all of its components and how they work together. We don't do it every week, but definitely do it often. We also use First Form Latin, which has some basic diagramming of Latin sentences and their English translations. I think its a very useful tool for language learning (with any language). When I was overseas, I realized that solid English grammar was one of the best preparations for learning local languages. If you can diagram in English, learning another language will be that much easier! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnMomof7 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I didn't learn in school, but we use CLE for LA, so I am learning. Slowly. I use their extra practice diagramming worksheets book :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 We are putting kids through one year of R&S so yes, we are learning diagramming this year. I teach it Because SWB things it's a must, and I am no expert on English grammar. While we prefer MCT four level analysis, we are committed to give diagramming a chance. Our local schools don't teach diagramming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerforest Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 We are putting kids through one year of R&S so yes, we are learning diagramming this year. I teach it Because SWB things it's a must, and I am no expert on English grammar. While we prefer MCT four level analysis, we are committed to give diagramming a chance. Our local schools don't teach diagramming. DD uses MCT sentences for diagramming practice. I think it's the same basic skill set and just a matter of preference. Diagramming made grammar make complete sense to my girl, but we still used MCT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto4inSoCal Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 At the schools here you are lucky to learn the 8 parts of speech. I have looked at the common core standards and there is nothing about diagramming. Diagramming is taught in the classical school my friends daughter attends but that's the only school I personally know of that teaches it. I am teaching diagramming to my kids. I want them to understand grammar really well and I feel diagramming is a good tool to learn it. I think grammar now a days is not heavily emphasised at all. It's interesting that you constantly hear complaints about student's writing yet there seems to be a sentiment that grammar is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehogs4 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 To the best of my knowledge, none of the school districts in our local area teach diagramming. Do they teach diagramming in your local schools? Do you teach diagramming? Why or why not? Thanks. To the best of my knowledge it is not taught in the schools, but then again, I never really checked or cared. I teach it because it is the best way to define and understand grammar. If you can diagram a sentence, the meaning is bound to be clear. My son has gone all the way through Analytical grammar, except for the few usage units he is finishing this term, and he is a master! He absolutely gets grammar. I am so glad we stuck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypamama Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I don't keep track of or care what the local school does with their students. My kids learn diagramming because it's a very useful tool for grammar comprehension and writing. Yes to all of this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedMom Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thank you all for your wonderful responses. I enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 None of them teach it around here. I love diagramming and teach it. I am very math minded and grammar was my weak area until I learned to diagram. Everything now makes sense when I can see it laid out in a diagram :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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