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  1. I felt like something was up with them. I'm on a few charter pages on Facebook and they were recruiting people constantly. Someone had mentioned they were giving out money for referrals. Them and a couple other charters were also allowing families to use charter funds for Disneyland annual passes. I couldn't understand how they got away with that.
  2. How are your twins with each other? My twins never leave each other, they sleep in the same bed, they are always in the same room. I've had trouble homeschooling them together because they distract each other but trying to separate them is hard. They will follow the other one or wait there until one is done. I've noticed when they talk about things it's often "we think" or "we like". I do occasionally take one on errands and leave the other at home and they are fine when I do that. I'm just wondering if this is due to homeschool or just a twin thing, maybe an age thing they'll outgrow (they're 7)? Do you do anything to encourage individuality or do you encourage them to stick together?
  3. This is me. I've used a variety of material for all subjects. It has really taught me how to teach different subjects. For example, in writing, I currently have IEW, WWS, LToW and Bravewriter along with several old free domain books on my google books app. I don't really use any of them completely but they are more of a springboard and reference to help me understand how to approach a certain type of writing I want to work on with my kids. I've bought them used, on homeschool buyers co-op or borrowed from friends. The longer I homeschool the more i realize the biggest difference comes from me, as the teacher or guide, having knowledge in what we are learning. Even my twins are in two different math books. One uses beast academy and the other is using right start. They are so different and one twin is really strong in math. I also try and focus on my goals in each subject with each child rather than worry what a particular book or curriculum says needs to be completed in a year. Sometimes a child wants to study different books, needs help in a different area or already really understands something and doesn't need additional help in that area. Each child is different and, as much as possible, I really want what we are studying to resonate with that particular child.
  4. I haven't taken any of those three but I've been researching Mr. D and DO. From reviews and samples, it seems like DO is a bit more rigorous than Mr. D. I did like that Mr. D is live, although that is only once a week. Mr. D offers twice a week tutoring live online for students and he allows students to turn in a lesson 3x before the grade is final. His philosophy is he wants kids to master the concept and they won't master it if they just take a test or assignment and don't go back to understand why they've missed problems. DO has more classes available than Mr. D so if you want to stick with him you can go farther. We ended up going with Mr. D since my daughter is taking an online physics course at the same time and I didn't want to overwhelm her. If she wasn't taking the physics I probably would have chosen DO. She is interested in engineering so she will need strong math skills. There are really good reviews on the quality of instruction from both DO and Mr. D.
  5. I do wonder if some kids are just readers and others are not. I have always hoped that my kids would share my love of books though and I've tried to gently encourage it without being forceful. We'll see if that works with my boys...
  6. I wanted to start a thread to share ideas of how you've been able to foster a love of books in your home with your kids. In our house: I've allowed reading after bedtime. My kids have to be in bed by 8:00 but they can read as long as they want. I don't monitor free reading books. They are free to choose whatever book they want as long as it isn't inappropriate. We keep lots of good, quality books on our shelf. I find these books at thrift stores, library friends rooms, and garage sales. I'm always looking for books. Once they love reading they will start plowing through any book they find so even if they choose junk books from the library they will still end up reading the good books we have at home. We read. My kids see DH and I read all the time. We also talk about books we are reading with the kids. What else has worked for everyone else here?
  7. I don't monitor free reading and even our literatures studies are picked together. I've found if you can just create an atmosphere rich in books they end up reading so much they push themselves forward. What I've done is stock my home library with thrift store finds and we have a really good library of good books. Since my girls read so much even the books that they aren't super interested in get read when they run out of things to read.
  8. I didn't realize I could skip Ap physics 1 and 2 and go straight to AP c. Thanks, that sounds like a good plan.
  9. I have an upcoming 8th grader who really wants to take physics next year. She's finishing AoPs Algebra this year so I felt she was ready and signed her up for Clover Creek physics next year. She'll be taking geometry for math. Should I count the physics class as high school for her? I was thinking of maybe doing AP physics 9th or 10th grade? Any suggestions on what path to take for science and math after the 8th grade year? Thanks!
  10. I don't think classical education is preferring antiquity. I think it's more of a rejection of modernist and in order to reject the modernist view of education you need to push back to an era before the modernist. There are specific points when our view on education began to change and certain idea's and philosophies began to be the dominating view. The change to a scientific approach to education and many trials and errors (Dewey and prior to that Unitarians and even Darwins views) a belief that we have no absolutes and many other turns throughout the last century that brought us to a place where education is completely unrecognizable compared to the 2 centuries before it. It is hard to really look at classical education due to the current Neo-Classical education that dominates. When you look to neo-classical education it has somewhat murky roots. Dorothy Sayers is who most companies point back to but there is also the great books movement and others who influenced the neo classical movement. I believe some of them had the desire to bring us back to our roots but they somehow missed so many important parts of what classical education was. Trying to put classical education in a light that current, modern people will identify with and trying to add in modern pedagogy has created something that I feel really missed the mark or soul of classical education. I don't consider myself classical due to not studying greek and latin (well latin lasted 2 years but we've since dropped it) but there are so many aspects that I've learned in reading about classical education that I feel has changed our homeschool for the better. While facts do need to be taught and of course you can't debate something if you know nothing about it my focus isn't facts. Our focus is cultivating that child. At its root though I don't think this is possible without absolutes which makes bringing back classical education on a large scale impossible in today's era. In a homeschooling home though, we can somewhat attempt it. Teaching a child to see the truth through the propaganda, lies and poorly constructed arguments is possible. Understanding what true beauty is as opposed to the sparkly, inticing, greed filled beauty that is often put forth as beautiful. Understanding that beauty is not quantitative. Trying to understand the content of an argument or thought as opposed to the measurability of it.
  11. Just wanted to reiterate what was stated above about integrated. I know our district has adopted all integrated courses. You can still take traditional courses but they are phasing those out. They really try and push kids to the integrated track and they will put a kid in the typical 8th grade integrated class to catch them up.
  12. I think the problem is we aren't teaching the children how to learn, how to really dissect something and truly contemplate it. As a society most of us to a point understand it and they say that's what common core addresses but I really don't think it does. I still see schools teaching to the test, it's just a different test. The most success I've had in any subject when teaching is discussions and allowing my students to go down rabbit trails. Finding out what interest them and allowing them to explore. I have to get into the subjects with them and research to be able to hold these conversations. I need to know where to direct them when they hit a wall. That's where the master teacher comes in. And if I am stuck also I help them (teaching them) to research and find the information. Schools in today's era don't allow for this. Students used to have to go and research and find information and recite it in class where a teacher could correct the information. We spoon feed kids and wonder why they aren't thinking critically. There is too much on the standards, not enough room for true discoveries to happen.
  13. I think that goes back to education as a science vs an art. We've tried to create an exact science to teaching and educating making ways that everyone can learn from a teacher that isn't necessarily a master at the subject they are teaching. Streaming the education process as if children were the next t model car. Going back to what Mimm said about buckets. That's the issue I've had with ED Hirshs core knowledge series. The idea that there are specific facts in any subject that we can pin down a child will need as an adult is silly. We will never teach everything, they will lose much of what we do teach. I think this also stems from the scientific approach to education. What probability is it that the child will need xyz as an adult.
  14. "They need go to school to learn street smarts" I'm not sure what exact street smarts they were referring too. We live in a plain Jane middle class suburban neighborhood and I'm sure none of the kids here would stand a chance in a bad neighborhood on the street. I'm not sure it would be a good thing if they could either. "It must be so nice to homeschool, sleep in all day, stay in your pjs" Ummm ya that's what we do all day sleep and stay in our pjs.
  15. I think there's a few issues. Classical education, or the idea of, tends to atract some people for the snob appeal. A picture of Jr playing chess at oxford speaking in Latin. There are also more B&M classical schools opening which brings in common core and other regulations they have to deal with. It's also partially, in my opinion, due to a general shift if how people obtain information. People don't have the attention spans to read long (maybe slightly boring) books about ancient ways of teaching so they rely on what Sally told them at Starbucks. There is a lack of identity for classical education and it become whatever sounds good or appeals to the masses. Also I think curriculum companies realize to truly teach classically would require skill and knowledge beyond what most homeschoolers have so we have this prepackaged do all of this and you too can be Socrates type of curriculum. I also think there's a lot of people who feel they need to prove they are somehow beating the public schools or doing something better. Maybe partially due to the criticism that homeschoolers get. JMO...
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