maize Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I know this is silly, but I notice over and over again illustrations of corn stalks and ears in children's books that are wildly inaccurate. Ears growing at the top of the corn stalks, ears with no husks...oh, and even worse: illustrated children's Bibles that show the "corn" in Joseph's dream in Egypt as American corn/maize. Didn't exist in ancient Egypt...not sure what grain was being referred to, but wheat or barley would be a reasonable guess. Really the whole thing shouldn't irk me so much, I just happen to like corn/maize and dislike ignorance :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 This is so appropriate with your user name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 it's so unreasonable of you to expect illustrations to be accurate. :001_tt2: many painters have things pretty far off base too. it's hard to draw pictures of things they haven't actually seen . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Yeah I'd flunk in the corn drawing department. I don't know what it is supposed to look like. I do - I've walked through many a cornfield. . . . . ;p even spotted one growing in my friends flower bed when it was 6" tall. we had no idea how it got there . . .she allowed it to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Extremely appropriate. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 For the edification of all: Corn grows like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Corn does not grow like this: (these images were way easier to find!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Chuckle. Thanks for the education, maize. You are right, there are a LOT of inaccurate illustrations out there. I had no idea. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Drives my dad nuts, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Oh, and no way did Joseph in Egypt dream something like this: (phew, I feel so much better now that I've educated part of the world :D ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 This is so appropriate with your user name. Yes, I have a very personal interest in this issue :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 I think this is the funniest Joseph's dream corn illustration I have seen yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I hadn't seen illustrations of the Pharaoh dreaming of corn/maize. :lol: I did know how it grows though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I cannot see a single attached thumbnail. Boo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 I cannot see a single attached thumbnail. Boo. Hm, maybe someone can give me a tutorial on how to embed images! When I add them as attachments they just show up as thumbnails, I'm sure there's a better way. Do the pictures show up if you click in the thumbnail icon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Oh, and no way did Joseph in Egypt dream something like this: and then there are people who are under the impression that Jesus spoke English... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 I hadn't seen illustrations of the Pharaoh dreaming of corn/maize. :lol: I did know how it grows though. Woops, you just reminded me it was pharoah's dream all along, Joseph just interpreted it. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 and then there are people who are under the impression that Jesus spoke English... Wait, he didn't speak English? And here I've been thinking for years I was reading a direct transcription of his words... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Oh, and no way did Joseph in Egypt dream something like this: (phew, I feel so much better now that I've educated part of the world :D ) Isn't that because in King Jame's English corn was not maize but grain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Isn't that because in King Jame's English corn was not maize but grain? I do not think "corn" is mentioned at all - in the King James Bible it mentions ears. I was wrong. "ears of corn" are mentioned in verse 5 - thanks Jean:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 We recently read aloud Call of the Wild, and the dog described in the book was not at all like the one on the front cover. I found it very disturbing and discussed it with the kids. Is it really that difficult to just hit it somewhere in the ballpark? Not expecting a home run every time but passably close would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulChaos Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yay! I can see them now for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It cannot be corn at all. Corn is indigenous to mesoamerica. There would not have been corn anywhere near Egypt. But I think "corn" in Britain then could mean any grain...maybe that is where the confusion lies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 and then there are people who are under the impression that Jesus spoke English... Well, no, that's silly. It was *Joseph* who spoke English. I saw him on tv. He bears a striking resemblance to Donny Osmond . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Well, no, that's silly. It was *Joseph* who spoke English. I saw him on tv. He bears a striking resemblance to Donny Osmond . . . And I think he wears purple socks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Isn't that because in King Jame's English corn was not maize but grain? American corn wouldn't have been very familiar at all at the time, and the term corn just meant grain. I think it is still used in that generic sense outside of North America. I think the settlers here started calling maize Indian corn, which would have been the same as saying Indian grain, but eventually it just got shortened to corn and that word lost its generic sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandra Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I know this is silly, but I notice over and over again illustrations of corn stalks and ears in children's books that are wildly inaccurate. Ears growing at the top of the corn stalks, ears with no husks...oh, and even worse: illustrated children's Bibles that show the "corn" in Joseph's dream in Egypt as American corn/maize. Didn't exist in ancient Egypt...not sure what grain was being referred to, but wheat or barley would be a reasonable guess. Really the whole thing shouldn't irk me so much, I just happen to like corn/maize and dislike ignorance :p That would drive me completely insane too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 I do not think "corn" is mentioned at all - in the King James Bible it mentions ears. You're right! And American illustrators must just automatically think "ears of corn" since that is most familiar... Ah well, "ears" or "corn", neither could mean maize in the context of ancient Egypt :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I do not think "corn" is mentioned at all - in the King James Bible it mentions ears. Genesis 41:5King James Version (KJV)5 And he slept and dreamed the second time: and, behold, seven ears of corn came up upon one stalk, rank and good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Kind of like when someone spells it peave instead of peeve? :lol: Sorry....couldn't help myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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