k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 What subjects (not necessarily which curriculum specifically) are you doing with your 5th grade student?? We're doing: Science (fossils, oceans, wind, weather, flight, molecules and atoms, the sun, heat, the nervous system, plants, animal reproduction, and tracks) Math Reading US Geography Health Grammar (need to purchase new curriculum here) Bible Just curious what others are covering at this age/level and what is "standard" (I know there really is no standard, but....). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohdanigirl Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 We did: Grammar History Science Math Typing Latin Art Music Spelling Pre-logc Spanish Catechism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Let's see, I think we did: Bible Math Spelling Grammar Writing Literature Spanish, alternating with Latin Geography, alternating with Logic Read alone time History and science alternating in the afternoons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 See, I'm wondering if I should be doing some sort of history. I actually went to review what the public school's standards are for social studies and first of all, it was overwhelming. Second of all, it seemed they had more history and government than I'm doing. I'm only concerned with what the public school is doing because I have opted for standardized testing for DD to prove our burden of progress to the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 In 5th grade we do: Spelling Vocabulary Grammar Literature Writing Math History (also covers Geography) Latin Spanish Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 For my 5th grader: History Writing Math Science (Life Science) Logic Lang arts (Grammar, Poetry, Vocabulary,Spelling) Literature Latin????? Spanish?????? I don't worry about achievement testing. The core subjects are what my district is worried about "reading, language arts, math." All you need typically is greater than 25th% to be OK w/ the district. I think if you're doing something in history, your DC will do OK on social studies portion of an achievement test. I would look at what test your DC will have to take and then get a test prep book for that one. Is it the SAT/10? The ITBS? Is it your state test? If it's your state test, then you should look at what their goals are. We'll be doing Ancient History this year using WTM methods along w/ K12 Human Odyssey as a spine for outlining, and essay writing using the K12 teacher and student guides. I will also use Core Knowledge What your 5th Grader Needs to Know for topics that might appear on an achievement test. I gave my son the NWEA MAP test which is just Language Arts, Math, and Reading. My district haven't said they won't accept it :001_smile: and I will be sending scores in a week. If they give the thumbs up for that test, I won't have to worry about social studies which is weak in elementary school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Well, being that we live in Iowa, it will naturally be the ITBS, lol. She has always scored above the 70th (usually in the 90's) percentile, so I'm not overly concerned, but I would like her to have the knowledge and skills that would be typical of her age/level. I'd hate for her to not know things that are age appropriate simply because we didn't cover them at home. I just don't know what those "things" are...... I think I need a handbook. Would What Your 5th Grader Needs to Know help me out here? I just need a general guide line of what all she should be knowing and learning about at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 My rising fifth grader will do the following. Grammar Spelling Writing Reading/Literature Logic Latin Math Science History Art appreciation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 When I had a fifth grader we did: History (included geography, art/music appreciation, worldview) Literature Mathematics Science Writing Grammar Logic puzzles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Have you looked at your districts website? The new National Standards CUrriculum has just been written. You can start there and it seemed to give fairly concrete goals by grade level. I can't recall if Social studies was there. It's not clear how many states will adopt it but it's a place to start. I'd compare that to your state standards. I find that for my state, most things are handled pretty quickly, leaving the rest of the year for us to really do history rather than social studies. The core subjects have more of a defined path ie math, language arts but the content subjects, science, history, and social studies, it really depends on the district. My son scored well (> 90th%) on ITBS social studies and science portions even though I didn't follow district guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 I have looked at the district's guidelines and holy cow (!!) they are overwhelming! If you care to check it out....here they are: http://www.cr.k12.ia.us/aboutUs/curriculum/standardsBenchmarks/Index.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.love.lucy Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 In 5th grade we do: Spelling Vocabulary Grammar Literature Writing Math History (also covers Geography) Latin Spanish Logic :iagree:Plus Bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Well, being that we live in Iowa, it will naturally be the ITBS, lol. She has always scored above the 70th (usually in the 90's) percentile, so I'm not overly concerned, but I would like her to have the knowledge and skills that would be typical of her age/level. I'd hate for her to not know things that are age appropriate simply because we didn't cover them at home. I just don't know what those "things" are...... I think I need a handbook. Would What Your 5th Grader Needs to Know help me out here? I just need a general guide line of what all she should be knowing and learning about at this stage. You might want to download the Core Knowledge Sequence (it's free!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrsjamiesouth Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I have looked at the district's guidelines and holy cow (!!) they are overwhelming! If you care to check it out....here they are: http://www.cr.k12.ia.us/aboutUs/curriculum/standardsBenchmarks/Index.cfm From your guidelines I would get a World Geography/Cultures program. MFW ECC, Sonlight Core5, or HOD Preparing would fit. Also, look at Trail Guide to World Geo. Trail Guides might fit the best for your guidelines. For 5th grade we are doing: Math Grammar Writing Spelling Vocab Latin Reading and Comp History Science French Typing Art Music Bible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Kay...help me out here, lol. I checked the abbreviations sticky and couldn't find any of them that you used? Can you give me the full names? Thank you so much....I'm still too fresh, lol. ETA: Thank you for taking the time to read through the guidelines and offer suggestions! I really appreciate it. Edited June 13, 2010 by k2bdeutmeyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Okay...I figured out MFW ECC and HOD. Thoughts on MOH??....that was what I was originally going to do, and then never ended up purchasing. Edited June 13, 2010 by k2bdeutmeyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenNC Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Science (probably a mix of biology and chemistry) History (ancients, including some geography, not sure how much at this point) Math Spanish Language arts (poetry, grammar, writing, vocabulary, spelling, literature) art phys. ed. Thanks for the thread---it has reminded me that we need to work on typing and logic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Okay...so what should I be doing for literature?? Geez....I've been doing this for 3.5 months and I feel like I'm starting all over again. What kinds of things do you cover for literature at this age?? DD is an EXCELLENT (above 12th grade) reader, so we really having been doing anything formal for reading, other than a comprehension workbook which she enjoys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yes, I would definitely add in history for this age, although I don't know that I'd teach to the test and do American only. I like to teach American history within the larger context of world history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrsjamiesouth Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Kay...help me out here, lol. I checked the abbreviations sticky and couldn't find any of them that you used? Can you give me the full names? Thank you so much....I'm still too fresh, lol. ETA: Thank you for taking the time to read through the guidelines and offer suggestions! I really appreciate it. Trail Guides to Geo is found here: http://geomatters.com/products/details.asp?ID=6 I have and plan to use MOH next year for my 5th grader. If you are trying to stick close to what the school teaches, this isn't close. It is a good program and if you added in some good maps and teaching on the geography of the Ancients you study you could make it work. For Lit. I just picked my own books from Sonlight Core 6 lists, Tanglewood Lit suggestions, and Heart of Dakota's 5/6 book pack. Here are some links: http://www.heartofdakota.com/drawn-into-optional5-6.php http://www.tanglewoodeducation.com/bkslit.htm http://www.sonlight.com/readers-6.html After reading I ask him to Narrate what he read and he keeps a notebook on further research. DITHOR from HOD is good for organizing your reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenNC Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 This link http://www.cr.k12.ia.us/aboutUs/curriculum/documents/elementary/SLE/5%20Fifth/5TH%20GRADE%20SOCIAL%20STUDIES%20SLE.pdf looks like it lays things out a little more plainly in terms of what is covered. You could always ask which textbook the school system is using and start from there. You could go to the publisher's website and look at the table of contents to see which topics that level of book is covering. Then base your planning around those topics. You could also consider getting a copy and using it yourself. I agree that it is good to couch American history in the context of world history. However, that doesn't mean that world history has to be the spine if that doesn't suit one's goal. You could always use the topics in American history as your spine then supplement with extra reading in world history. You might consider using Story of the World and just do the reading portions of it to get an overview of world history (vols. 3 and 4 will be the best correlation, though there will be some in the end of vol. 2). This is sort of what I've done, but in reverse. I use world history as the spine then beef up the American portions as we come to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 I'm not sure that I'm really that concerned with doing what the public school is doing (this is one of the big reasons we pulled DD this year - lack of challenge in their approach and materials) - I guess I was using their guidelines as a jumping point. I was looking for some direction as to what we "should" be doing. I hope that makes sense. I guess I just need(ed) some direction to make sure we're covering everything that we should be and that she has at least been exposed to everything that she should have by this age/level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Dd and I did the following subjects this school year: Bible History (TOG, YR 1 - ancient civilizations) Geography (connected to history) Literature (mostly connected to history) Writing (often connected to history, but not always) Art Science (general studies) Math Latin Grammar Spelling We've kept plenty busy! Blessings, Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchfire Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 We're just gearing up for fifth grade in the autumn... Math Language Arts (vocabulary, grammar, composition, literature; we also include spelling b/c dd has spelling Issues, but I wouldn't otherwise still cover it) Latin History (prehistory through ~1000 CE) Science (Life science and earth & space science) Logic Fine Arts Appreciation Fine Arts Skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Well, that's the whole point of the National Standards, states are different in their content, sometimes even districts or classes w/in a school are different. If you look at WTM for content recommendations they may be completely different from some other program. WTM focuses on one science subject each year. Dr. NEbel espouses four strands of science each year to show the inter-relatedness of science. Which one is right? They both are. Both approaches will get you to the same place. So you just have to decide whose schedule you want to follow? Your district's? WTM? TOG? Child's interest? I think history is an excellent subject for teaching thinking skills, analysis skills. WTM ties literature with history. We've started lit discussions using Teaching the Classics and my boys have really enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Well, that's the whole point of the National Standards, states are different in their content, sometimes even districts or classes w/in a school are different. If you look at WTM for content recommendations they may be completely different from some other program. WTM focuses on one science subject each year. Dr. NEbel espouses four strands of science each year to show the inter-relatedness of science. Which one is right? They both are. Both approaches will get you to the same place. So you just have to decide whose schedule you want to follow? Your district's? WTM? TOG? Child's interest? I think history is an excellent subject for teaching thinking skills, analysis skills. WTM ties literature with history. We've started lit discussions using Teaching the Classics and my boys have really enjoyed it. Excellent points and I agree completely!! Blessings, Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewb Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 In the fall my 5th grader will be doing the following: Language Arts (vocabulary, grammar, composition, literature, and spelling) Latin and/or Spanish History (Early Modern) Science (earth science) Music and art appreciation Phys Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest janainaz Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Math History English Writing Spelling Science Latin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 E. D. Hirsch's book series: What Your __________ Grader Needs to Know provides a sound starting point to make sure that you're doing enough. Many libraries carry this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Most of the time, I've found that such guidelines are timewasting gobbledy goop. Someone posted here recently about National Standards guidelines that are beginning to be posted and from the few of those I checked out, they make a lot more sense than any state guidelines I've ever seen. But they are extremely general, too. For guidelines that are more specific, I'd look to something like the Hirsch books I mentioned, above, or look at what's called for in some online curriculums such as Ambleside online or Tanglewood to help you get your bearings.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2jjka Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Bible Math English/Grammar Spelling Writing Reading U.S. History Science Music (Piano) Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Have you considered getting a copy of The Well Trained Mind book by SWB and JW, and following it instead of the other? I honestly believe that if you did this, your student(s) would exceed the mandated standards of your local school district within a short amount of time. TWTM is an excellent resource book to have, even if you end up supplementing public school education at some point. You can't lose by giving it a read. The book is a wealth of information. (And I promise you, no one paid me to say this.) :) Blessings, Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Bible, Math, Science, History/Geography, English (literature, poetry, reading, grammar, spelling, copywork/dictation, writing), Spanish, Fine Arts (picture study, composer, hymn, folk song, art materials to use in free time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissi Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Spelling Grammar Literature Writing Math History (also covers Geography) Latin German Pre-Logic Science Guitar Bible Art Music Drama Pretty similar to many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 History/Geography Science LA (Writing/Poetry/Grammar/Vocabulary/Spelling/Literature) Math Logic Art/Art History Music German Spanish PE Performing Arts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karensk Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Ds did the following in 2007-08: Math Language arts (grammar/mechanics, writing, spelling, vocab, penmanship) Reading & Literature Classical Studies: Ancient Greece Social Studies: Early American History Science Art P.E. Current plan for dd for 2010-11: Math Language arts Reading & Literature Classical Studies: Ancient Greece Social Studies: World History - Modern Times Bible Science Art P.E. Here's the description of the Classical Studies course I put on ds's 5th grade transcript: Classical studies: Ancient Greece – 5th grade Course description: An introduction to the literature and history of ancient Greece. A range of literature is read – mythology, retellings of epic poems, fables, and short biographies of key figures in Greek history. The student learns about the Greek gods and goddesses, Homer, Achilles, Agamemnon, Odysseus, Jason, the Hero of Marathon, Socrates, Xenophon, Alexander the Great, and others. Methods used include independent reading, discussion, comprehension questions, writing assignments, map work, and tests. Credit: 1 humanities credit. Curriculum: D’Aulaires’ Greek Myths Student Guide by Cheryl Lowe and Leigh Lowe (Memoria Press) Plus: Custom lessons on remaining literature Book list: D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri and Edgar Parin d’Aulaire Black Ships Before Troy by Rosemary Sutcliff The Wanderings of Odysseus by Rosemary Sutcliff The Children’s Homer by Padraic Colum The Golden Fleece by Padraic Colum Famous Men of Greece: Greek History by John Haaren and A. B. Poland, edited by Leigh Lowe Archimedes and the Door of Science by Jeanne Bendick Aesop’s Fables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragons in the flower bed Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 My rising fifth grader will turn ten in a month. Mathematics Grammar & Composition Logic Latin Literature Greek Science Visual Arts Music Religion Probably other stuff I'm forgetting because I was finally able to put the lesson planning away for a while and I'm not bringing that stuff back out until September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa B Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) Math Latin French Grammar Spelling Writing Geography Science - Earth Science Ancient Greek History/Literature American History/Literature Art Religion ETA: outside the home - guitar and swimming I like to make out a basic K-12 plan which includes what subjects/topics I want to cover each year. I edit and refine the plan at least once a year. Edited June 14, 2010 by Melissa B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDay Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 This year we did: math science art music history spelling grammar writing geography reading/literature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie010 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I just have little ones, so don't have any ideas for 5th grade, but I do have some ideas about standards. My dh is a teacher and I have helped him with his lesson plans. Basically, the standards are handed down from the administrators. At some point during the course the lesson plans must show exposure to the standard. It does not imply any level of mastery of standard. For his subject the textbook that he is required to use has no correlation to the standards. If you were to read the 200 standards for his course you would think he was teaching rocket science, which he clearly is not. Outside of math and english, I think the standards are not taken seriously in our area. Many excellent teachers don't even know what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy in TN Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I'm so excited it looks like my friend's dd will probably be joining us a couple of day a week as a study buddy for my little guy. She will be in 5th grade. I had a great time looking through curriculum material with her mom the other night.:D Math Saxon 65 with DIVE (everyday) Creative Problem Solving in School Mathematics (only at my house) Language Arts MCT Music of the Hemispheres Poetry (only at my house) Winston Grammar (only at my house) D'Nelian Handwriting (only at my house) Writing Fabulous Sentences & Paragraphs from Evan Moor (only at my house) How to Write a Story from Evan Moor (only at my house) Readers and Comprehension Guides from Veritas Press (everyday) Wordly Wise (only at home) Phonetic Zoo (only at home) History at my house 2x/ week A Little History of the World by Gombrich (reading, activities over the entire year) at home first trimester- Ancient China second trimester- Europe Middle Ages & Renaissance third trimester- America 1815 to present Science first trimester- Astronomy (GSA Space at my house with extras at home) second trimester- Human Body (GSA Human Body at my house with extras at home) third trimester- Inventions Study (stuff at my house and extras at home) Spanish (just for exposure and fun) Barrons Spanish Every Day (at my house with vocabulary at home) Art Art in Story and other materials that support Gombrich's history topics (only at my house) Her year looks so fun! Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschooltoone Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 History/Geography Science LA (Writing/Poetry/Grammar/Vocabulary/Spelling/Literature) Math Logic Visual Arts Music PE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vida Winter Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Our 5th grade this fall: - Math - Science - History (includes Geography) - English (grammar, reading/read-alouds, spelling, vocab, writing) - Spanish - Art - Religion Extra activities: 4H archery, 4H cooking, swimming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cani e porci Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Here's the plan: Math Language arts (grammar, spelling, writing, handwriting) Ancient history/literature Latin Science Logic Art appreciation/history (once a week) Music (piano) Typing We'll probably participate in an art & drama co-op, and DD will continue gymnastics and swimming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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