For Christmas a few years ago my husband's 92 year old grandmother gave me her "lingerie"/ see-through-ish, puffy shoulders, granny lace at the neck something or other. :ack2: Her husband had just died and she said she never wore it much. I know I have a reputation in the family for being old fashioned, but she said she thought my husband (her grandson!) would like it! Umm, no.