I see you said you will be calling the pharmacist. You may also want to try to call your own doctor because some doctors have a phone service that will contact them in case of an emergency. There's a chance your doctor can be reached and willing and able to change the RX, hopefully. :grouphug:

:iagree: Exactly

Welcome back. I don't think you have to worry about your name going down in WTM history. I think it's safe for you to post without thinking that others are all thinking about that one particular post. We all tend to have a lot of other things on our mind to be too caught up in something like that. We tend to move onto the next thing pretty quickly.

Yes, my daughter has a few. I forget how many.

Here's a link to an old thread from here on this subject. You'll find a lot of ideas on it. :001_smile: http://welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218890&highlight=phonics+games

:iagree: Thanks for posting that.

:iagree::lol:

This makes me really sad. I haven't had time to read your link yet but the whole ordeal is just horrible. I just burst out crying when I read this, knowing you must be so hurt by all of this. I don't understand why someone like Ken Ham and others think it is their place to tell everyone what to beleive. They just need to be sticking to presenting their beliefs when it is appropriate, maybe contrast that with some other teaching, but leave it at that. Why homeschoolers want to rally around people like that I don't know. It's one thing to buy products and use them. But it's another thing to think of these people as your spiritual leaders. If you want a spiritual leader it seems to me, if you are christian, the place to be looking for that is in your churches, not from homeschool sales/convention people. Ken Ham and homeschoolers need to read the Bible and check to see how churches are supposed to be organized. Homeschool convention people/publishers, etc. are not supposed to be setting themselves up to be our spiritual authority figures.

As far as thoughtful discourse, now I'm curious to hear some explanations - not angry rants and insults though - about the differences in the way Enns and Ham interpret the Bible. Not just the different conclusions they've come to, but how those conclusions are supported. But I am not interested in reading anything disparaging about either one of them or Susan Wise Bauer. I just would like to read about it on an intellectual level, if that is going on anywhere. But right now it's too late and time for bed. I haven't seen that here on these boards. But maybe I missed it because for the most part I have not been reading these threads.

Oh, I've seen that happen too. I do think some people have the idea that just being angry is a sin so they feel guilty about it or try to deny it by saying they are not angry even if they are. I think they have themselves convinced they don't get angry. But no, I do not think that anger in itself is a sin. It's how you handle it that is a sin or not. In Ephesians 4:26 it says “In your anger do not sin”[a]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,..." It seems to me that the Bible implies that we WILL get angry, but tells us not to commit sins while we are angry.

No, I just wouldn't know what they believed unless they told me or I already knew what they believed.

No, not with a 9 hr drive each way. If your only reason to go is to look at books you would be better off ordering them in the mail, with the idea of returning them if you do not want to keep them. But be sure to check the return policy before making a purchase. Also, be sure to purchase them when you can take the time to actually look at them before the return policy expires. Paying shipping to return books is a lot less expensive than the cost of a 9 hr two way trip. Also, I have found that I really do not get a good idea of how much I like a book or not by looking at it at a convention. It's loud and crowded and tiring to be there. I'd much rather have the book at home to go over it in a quiet environment and take my time.

I agree with the others who have said to let the "friendship" go. I don't think this man wants to be a friend to you or your husband. It appears he feels his role is to dominate you. I do think forgiveness is a good thing.But forgiveness does not mean you should put yourself in a position of being mistreated again. He is not your friend anyway. He seems to consider himself to be above you.

I was just saying to my dh that I thought we were going to get a little break in the clouds today and have a partially sunny day. I guess our nice day this Spring is going to be on a Wednesday or Thursday instead of a Friday. :tongue_smilie:

Contact a title company. There is information they can give you.

You may want to send her some flowers or a plant with a note saying how much you appreciate what she did for you. :001_smile:

Yes, the inclined roof was a very safe place for kids who had been drinking. You may have very well saved their lives or kept them from a life in a wheelchair.

Yes, they did use sippy cups. One of my children liked to bang her sippy cup of juice on the floor near the front door. This caused ants to come in to get to the apple juice. :lol: I'm not sure , but I think she just liked seeing the juice come out of the cup. Also, I think she enjoyed seeing the tiny little ants move about on the floor.:001_huh::lol:

You may want to ask yourself, if you were the buyer and asking a neighbor about a house, how you would want to be responded to. The reason I say that is, if someone does that, and then becomes your neighbor, you may see them in the neighborhood on a regular basis for a long time after that. If you really dread speaking to someone about a house if anyone does knock on your door to ask, maybe it's best to just not answer the door. That way you won't say something or leave something out that they may resent you for later. I really doubt anyone will knock on your door to ask anything. Several houses near ours have sold since we've been here and I haven't seen any of the new owners talk to any of the neighbors first.

Years ago, we had made an offer on a house, and after we had already made the offer, the real estate agent called and told us that the owner had killed herself in the house. The bank required him to tell us. The bank said it had to be disclosed because it was the law. The idea of living in the house after that really bothered my dh. He thought it would bother our children if they heard it from the neighbors, which they probably would have. We backed out of the deal. It did affect the value of that home. It was on the market for a substantial discount. This was in the state of Oregon. Perhaps the laws vary from state to state. Also, it was years ago, so the law may have been revised. I have no idea.

I think I might say something like "Excuse me, but we do not call each other weird in our family." Even though people are not meaning it in a mean way, I don't think, it seems that the children are seeing themselves as being labeled in a way that has a negative connotation (maybe, or do they ?). If the children don't seem to see it as something negative I would just not worry about it. If these comments are being made by people you will likely never see again there's really no point in correcting them. I like Starrs idea about telling the kids that others will catch up with them, I would add because they are the cool eaters.

We received ants in the mail once for the kids ant farm. But I'm sad to say that a lot of them were dead. I think they got too hot.

There have been schisms in Christianity for many hundreds of years. I don't think that is going to end any time soon. They certainly did not begin with homeschoolers. I think it would be ideal if various educators could offer their presentations separately, as SWB is considering, so that women that attend the workshops could be focused solely on the presentation, and actually take something away from that. My experience of going to homeschool conventions has been that they are a waste of time and money. You spend a lot of time trying to make your way through crowds, looking at materials while standing up at a booth until you can't stand any longer, and if you do attend a workshop, you are already exhausted from the whole experience so you are sitting there thinking you can't wait for this to be over so you can go home. However, the times I have gone to workshops and focused solely on that (not at a homeschool convention) I have actually learned something.

:iagree::iagree::iagree: You have said just what I think. I really do not care if others I know use the same curriculum I do or not. It is fun to talk about it if you do use the same items, but it seems utterly ridiculous to me if its a divisive issue.

I don't believe that "educators" and "christians" homeschooling can or should be split. That concept is just not part of my thinking. But I am probably looking at this differently than what you are saying and not really getting what you mean by that. Whether or not a schism is a bad thing, of course depends on how that is being applied. I do not think it is a bad thing that there are various groups of different types of homeschoolers. People do tend to organize into groups of like minded people.It's a good thing to do that in order to support and help one another. It's a bad thing to do that out of hostility and judgment against one another. The schisms are not something that may or may not happen. They just are. It's the hostility and divisiveness that is not good at all, I think. Homeschool conference speakers or attenders should not go away from a conference feeling they have been torn to shreds by speakers. There is no good at all in that kind of schism. It's always good that various ideas are actually discussed. But for them to be discussed in a mean spirited way and for schisms to happen in that way is certainly not good. I suppose I may not be really getting what you are saying by "would" a schism be a bad thing. The way I see it is, there already ARE schisms. Do you mean would more divisiveness be a good thing ? What goes on at conferences and between the organizers and speakers of those groups, I do not think is really indicative of what is going on in the minds of most homeschoolers. I suspect some of them like to think that somehow they "run" the "homeschool community" and some kind of homeschool world is revolving around them, but most homeschoolers are busy at home caring for their families and couldn't care less about all of that drama.