You do have a point.

Believe me, if my child was so sick that they thought they were going to die you can bet I would not be at home giving them a shower. We'd be in the emergency room. If you actually believed your child was in danger of dieing and did not get them medical help you are extremely neglectful.

You said this "As their mother, you should have access to their bodies at all times." That is beyond odd. Also, for you to call people on here "Sickos" is extremely rude. For you to say that you as their Mom should have access to their bodies at all times is an alarming statement. That statement was not said by you in the context of caring for a sick child. Aubrey is certainly not the one that needs help. She respects her children.

Oh, I am so out of the loop. Are there just 2 main big groups that do homeschool conferences ? If so, it's too bad there is not more variety. Well, I use to like to go to homeschool conferences to look at the books and see a few people I'd seen around homeschool support groups but I did not find the speakers to be worthwhile, so I stopped going. It's easier to just order online. It seems to me that there are some in the homeschool community that want to turn the whole convention aspect into some kind of parachurch organization and place themselves as the spiritual leaders over all of the "flock". It's not working and won't work because a business cannot operate like a church. It's very strange and ill advised.

Ummm, something just occurred to me - Maybe she meant 21 months old. If its 21 years old there is no way around it, it IS creepy. No, I reread it. He was a teen and then at 21 years old had chicken pox. Any Mother who does not understand why it is inappropriate to go into the bathroom while your 21 year old son is taking a shower and put lotion all over him needs to talk to a professional family counselor asap. IF you think I am kidding I can assure you that I couldn't be any more serious.

Wow. I am without words. Years ago I went to a few homeschool conventions but the one's I attended did not have the type of topics covered I was interested in so I stopped going. I am so glad I missed that particular speaker. :tongue_smilie:

OK,wondering how my kids would view this but not being surprised at all by their responses, I just told my 22 year old son and 15 year old daughter what you said. My son said, in a very grumpy voice, that it would be weird if I did what you did and my 15 year old said "gross". My son also said he finds the whole idea disturbing. I have a 15 y.o. and a 22 year old that are perfectly capable of putting their own lotion or shampoo on in the shower and we have a great relationship, do plenty of fun things together and enjoy each others company. No need to feel sorry for us whatsoever. My son in law was 22 when he married my daughter. I find the idea of a grown man - age 21 or 22- needing help in the shower by his Mom incomprehensible. That is of course,unless there is some type of special circumstance for a special needs child. But otherwise, I want my children to grow up to not be too dependent on me and take charge of their own responsibilities.

Well, I guess if a group states they are Christ Centered, it goes without saying they have a different view than a group that may identify themselves as secular. So what ? There is room for both types of groups, right ? I think most people that attend either type of group are there to find curriculum, hear their favorite speakers, and couldn't care less about all of the finger pointing, them against us mentality, etc. I think most people at any of these conferences are just not interested in arguing and continuing with the division but just want a place to look at and purchase curriculum, thank you very much. It's sad that so view voices are making so much noise. It seems in every group there are a few with very loud, dominant personalities that have goofy opinions and would like it to seem everyone is in agreement with them. I think I'll just stick to purchasing online. Honestly, I think some people are enjoying all of the division. It sure seems to be a favorite subject. :tongue_smilie:

Honestly, I think that a Mom going into the bathroom to show her teenage son how to shampoo, scrub, etc. IS an invasion of privacy. I would not do it. If it needed to be done that would have to be delegated to their Dad or some other trusted male person.

James Herriot's Cat Stories ?

Papa Piccolo is a charming cat story. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_12?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=papa+piccolo&sprefix=papa+piccolo If you want something that's silly, just for fun, here's a link to 101 Cat and Dog Jokes. http://www.amazon.com/101-Cat-Dog-Jokes-Books/dp/0590433369/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1301382457&sr=1-1 The Prodigal Cat but be sure to look for the unabridged version which is ISBN 0934998191 http://www.amazon.com/Prodigal-Cat-Classic-Childrens-Story/dp/0934998191/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301383178&sr=1-1

:iagree: I don't know what the OP is saying either. But sometimes it's a little hard to communicate online. But I suspect she may be saying what the other posters are thinking, that the verses are believed but not lived out, and should be. To the OP. What is your question ? Also, why is it a big deal whether or not you make a poster with those verses ? Do you plan on making it for others to see or as a project for yourself ? Perhaps you are concerned about others reactions to it ? I guess I'm not really following your logic here.

I guess I don't understand why it is a dilemma of whether or not to let your kids spend the night at you MILs and her boyfriends when you are saying your dh will not allow it. You wouldn't do that against his will, would you ? I understand it bothering you, because she is family, but the answer of whether the children spend the night there or not seems so clear cut to me. NO.

You didn't get what you paid for, since activities in the book are missing. You have nothing to feel bad about by letting the seller know that you can see there are missing activities in the guide. That is not arguing, just informing. I think you should let the seller know you will be leaving appropriate feedback. If they do not make it right for you, let others know. You may be preventing others from being cheated in the future this way. If you leave feedback you will need to copy and paste the post that contains the for sale ad of the item you purchased into the feedback.

My sister in law was very strict ( I think mean actually) with her kids in church and her daughter as an adult now has nothing to do with church . I think if my memory of being in church was of being slapped on the leg and scolded every time I moved an inch that I would'nt want to be in church either.

:lol::lol::lol: Funny.

I remember when I was very young - I think before age 10 - my brother and Dad were talking about calling my brother Jim instead of Lyle.Lyle is the name he was given when he was born. My Mom was very upset about that. A neighbor boy told us his name was Tommy and we called him Tommy for a long time until his sister told us that his name was really Yurislav. We were under the impression that his family,including his Mom, did not like us calling him by the name of Tommy so we stopped. I would be upset if my children changed their names. Their names are Carrie, Jared and Lisa. But if they did change their name I would try to not make a big deal about it in order to try to keep it from becoming a wedge between us. But I would really have to try to not get upset about it.

Some people seem to feel at liberty to be rude to young guests. I think the hostess was rude. Once when we were eating at a restaurant with my children and my brothers family and children, my Mom, the grandma of all of our children, was making an issue about my son and his cousin eating a basket full of chips. It was so rude how she made an obnoxious facial expression in disapproval and scolded them. I said to her "That's what the chips are there for. Would you like me to ask the waiter to bring a basket of chips just for you ?" She did this another time at a restaurant with my kids and I had the same kind of response for her. The thing is, this weird behavior about food pretty much demonstrates how selfish and stingy she has been towards all of her grandchildren and reminds me of my childhood with her. Her behavior is not tolerable. I won't sit back and silently let her treat my children that way. They have rarely even seen her. For the most part, she generally turns down any invitations to be with any of us. When she is with us,she is not very nice to me or my kids. Some people should just be kept away from your kids for the most part.

I disagree that they are not "hurting" the kids. They are training your kids to have the attitude that it's perfectly OK to do exactly what you - the parents - have told them not to do behind your back. Don't be surprised if these same grandparents continue to train your kids to sneak behind your back as the years go by. Good luck with the teen years, especially if you continue to put up with this nonsense.

Above, I put in a link for Explode the Code Book 4. It teaches syllabication and could be used as a supplement to any program.

To learn about syllable division you could use Explode the Code book 4. http://www.christianbook.com/explode-the-code-book-4/nancy-hall/9780838814635/pd/146363?item_code=WW&netp_id=203443&event=ESRCN&view=details http://www.christianbook.com/explode-code-teachers-guide-books-and/9780838808542/pd/146854?event=CPOF "Book 4 covers compound words: common endings -ful, -ing, -ist, -ed, -ness; rules for syllable division between double and different consonants, with open and closed syllables, with syllables ending in -y and -le, dipthong syllables, and three-syllable words." Target Spelling has some great exercises to help with visual memory. When I had my daughter use that program there was a placement test I used to figure out which book to place her in. I think it was in the teacher's guide. You could contact the company selling the books to ask for help about placing your dd in the correct book for her spelling level, if you are interested in this program. http://www.learningthings.com/items.asp?Cc=HSVTARGE

How old is the child ?

But what if instead of hating the experience she had enjoyed it very much ? Would that make a difference in whether or not you would give her as much freedom of choice the next time she asks to do something you would hope she ultimately chooses against ?

Wow. That really is alarming that she cares so little for her own little child. Someone should be making some surprise visits, asap, to see what else is going on in that household,regardless of whether the visit is welcome or not. That child could be in danger of other forms of abuse and/or neglect as well.

Thank you for the information. I need nondairy items for my dairy allergic daughter. On the label of Nucoa there is a circle with a U in it and outside of the circle is the word PARVE. I never noticed that before.