Momto6inIN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I went to the Cincinnati convention last week and listened to Andrew Pudewa.speak about the Four Language Arts. He emphasized the value of copywork and even though I'd always read about that in WTM, it just sounded so boring. Just re-writing someone else's words? How could that possibly be of value? So I'd never tried it. But he convinced me it was worth a shot, so I came home and tried it with my 1st grader. She loves it. I mean, she loooooooves it. I just told her to pick a chapter book (she chose The Hobbit) and I found a few shorter sentences in it. And I can tell that she really feels like she's writing. It's empowering for her. She asks to do copywork first thing every day now. Who knew?!? (Well, other than all you other folks who have been doing it all along just like SWB told us all to, that is :closedeyes: ) Just thought I'd share! 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 My kids love it too. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourisenough Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It really seems like one of those things that's too good to be true, doesn't it? It's so easy, yet powerfully effective. My DD4 (age 5) really, really took off with reading after we began doing copy work this spring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymomtime Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That was a really great talk. I need to get back to copy work. We were working on single letter formation, but he likes copy work so much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFM Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 My kids love it too. We are copywork fans here. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 My kids love it to. I'm with you that I thought it sounded boring at first, but my son had been doing copy work for two years now and it's one of his favorite things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawthorne44 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 There is something about writing something out that helps imprint it on the brain. In college I used to make one page for each class that was "Things I really really need to know". Then I'd write it out a few times. I never really intended to do it a few times, but stuff would get added and other stuff would get dropped once I knew it cold. I had a rule that it couldn't go past 1 page. This thread made me realize it was like copywork. Today it applies to grocery lists. I write a grocery list, and I lose it somewhere between the kitchen and the store. Seriously, 95% chance. I buy everything on the list anyway (well, the things I added). If I don't write a list, I wonder around in a fog. But, the concept that a kid might like copywork? I will remember that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 My 3rd grader still loves copywork, she's been doing it for two years now and she still adores it. Partly I think now she loves it because it's less effortful than coming up with her own original writing. ;) But she still gets a lot out of it - practice with spelling, grammar, mechanics, and that ineffable feel for language and well-written passages. I'll let her keep doing copywork as long as she enjoys it (although I make her do other writing too, now). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 My first grader hates it. Absolutely despises it. :P She loves writing her own ideas down, and reading books, but copying something that came from a book? Oh heck no. I make her do it anyway because she has low muscle tone and needs the practice, but it's always a battle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 My 3rd grader still loves copywork, she's been doing it for two years now and she still adores it. Partly I think now she loves it because it's less effortful than coming up with her own original writing. ;) But she still gets a lot out of it - practice with spelling, grammar, mechanics, and that ineffable feel for language and well-written passages. I'll let her keep doing copywork as long as she enjoys it (although I make her do other writing too, now). I love the word ineffable! My Ds does not love copywork, but I can see that it helps him so much. He like illustrating the copywork and putting the finished product in his notebook. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaConquest Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I wouldn't say that my DS loves copywork, but he gets it done without complaint. He much prefers creative writing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 That was a really great talk. It definitely was a great talk! The day after we got back I was talking to someone at church whose son is struggling with reading in public school (she started the conversation by asking me for advice, I promise!) and I suddenly realized I was rhapsodizing and kind of sounding like I had a crush on Andrew Pudewa! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathermomster Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 DD likes copywork and dictation too, which seems odd to me as she was extremely pencil phobic until January. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I loved copywork but my kids hate it. :( I think there's a ton of value in it but they just won't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btervet Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 DS loves copywork. He loves writing, and says that's his time to "learn to make it perfect". I love copywork because it's so easy. I look at his reading for the day, pick out a sentence, and write it in his book. I ask about punctuation, nouns/verbs/pronouns, then he copies it. 30 seconds of my time, and a minute or two of his. It feels like cheating it is quick and easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility7 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 There is something about writing something out that helps imprint it on the brain. In college I used to make one page for each class that was "Things I really really need to know". Then I'd write it out a few times. I never really intended to do it a few times, but stuff would get added and other stuff would get dropped once I knew it cold. I had a rule that it couldn't go past 1 page. This thread made me realize it was like copywork. :iagree: My friends in college would laugh at me because I would write flashcards up until the time of the test... thus seldom actually reviewing my stack of flashcards, but simply writing them! I never really understood why that was so effective for me until I became a homeschool mom and realized the huge benefits of writing things out by *hand*. For early grades, it helps with the basics like spelling, punctuation, grammar, style, etc... but I think for any age it helps with learning actual content. I plan on utilizing copywork throughout our schooling (fortunately my kids don't hate it!). I even do it myself :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocassie Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I've been thinking about trying it to help improve my DD's handwriting. I'm just afraid it will be one more struggle. Maybe I can have her pick the sentence. Thanks for the inspiration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorrelZG Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I do my own copywork. I have a book where I copy out favorite quotes and passages from my own reading. I love reading back through it. My child appreciates it more when he sees it is something I value in this way. It encourages him to consider the words he is reading in a different way, also .. you know, like noticing that something was worded in an interesting way or that a statement is worth writing down .. things like that. It is exciting to see it carry into his own writing (the fruit of both the reading and the copy work, I suppose, which seems to sear the model more clearly on the mind than reading alone — at least for me because my mind is a sieve). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALB Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'll have to listen to that! Thanks for sharing. My kids like copy work and vastly prefer it to dictation, which is like pulling teeth here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 It really seems like one of those things that's too good to be true It totally does seem that way. But we've seen big benefits here just in the 1 week we've been doing it! Like a PP said, it incorporates grammar and punctuation and spelling and handwriting and most importantly the feel of the flow of well written language - all in 1 easy step. I'm a convert LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knitmama Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 He emphasized the value of copywork and even though I'd always read about that in WTM, it just sounded so boring. Just re-writing someone else's words? How could that possibly be of value? This is so interesting! I work in education (in addition to homeschooling) and am always amazed that "boring" so often equates to "no value" (or, conversely, that if something is entertaining, it *must* have educational value). I have a different view: things of value have value, and those that don't, don't (regardless of how boring or entertaining they are). Now, unfortunately for my DD, I place a high value on copy practice... It's unfortunate because my kiddo hates it. Partly because it's boring, and partly because it's not something she sees value in. (Happily, I don't factor in a 10-year-old's buy-in for things I deem necessary. I assign it anyway!) I found a fabulous book on Latin and Greek medical roots, and if the sass factor goes off the charts for a particular day, copy work Is assigned--period. Last week, when I was lecturing on the marine biomes, I stopped and asked what the heck epipelagic meant. And my kiddo shot back that "epi" means "on," and she knew this because of her copy practice. (And therefore she was able to to make an educated guess as to what we were studying.) Cracked me up. It's working! Years ago, I was sure copy work would also model writing style and ethics in a useful way. I spent a lot of time choosing the perfect poetry and the perfect quotes.... Honestly, I have no idea whether any of that is sticking. I actually think reading and discussion have helped with that more than the copy practice. But facts from copy practice surface fairly regularly, so there's not doubt it's working on that level. Anyway--I add my vote to those who find value in copy practice, for what that's worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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