unsinkable Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12006863/nhl-mumps-outbreak-puzzles-nhl "The recent outbreak of mumps has emerged as one of the most bizarre yet compelling storylines of the 2014-15 NHL season. Multiple teams have been affected, several players have been sidelined, and meanwhile, we are all left scratching our heads about what exactly it all means." Looks like Minnesota has had the most players affected, with 5 players so far. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have wondered for a long time if there needed to be an adult booster shot for MMR. One has to consider the possibility of waning immunity over time. Combined with the larger degree of global travel now occurring, the world got a little bit smaller and that means more individuals with waning immunity being exposed to disease they otherwise might never have come in contact with 20 years ago. Just a thought. I'm no immunologist for certain, but I have wondered about it. Then to I have also wondered about genetic mutations/adaptations in childhood diseases causing the original formulations to be ineffective. I know several fully immunized adults who were diagnosed with pertussis. They had all their shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Pertussis is especially noted for wearing off. I had it at 24 after my last booster had been at 12. Horrible experience. "One dose of mumps vaccine will ‘take' (be effective) in approximately 80% of people vaccinated, but two doses of mumps vaccine will ‘take' in approximately 90% of people. Therefore, two doses are better at preventing mumps than one dose." -- from http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/mumps/vac-faqs.htm-- and in the article, he says 10% of the team was affected. I doubt it's the vaccine wearing off so much as the immunization never "took" in the first place and they just weren't exposed until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 The part about some of the infected showing little to no symptoms is interesting, too. "There are a couple of unique challenges with mumps. Part of that is the incubation [period] is long and can vary quite a bit -- 12 to 25 days," Wallace told ESPN.com "The other challenge is that some -- a relatively high proportion of those infected -- are going to show little or no symptoms, and we don't know how well they will spread [the disease] to others." :zombiechase: because he's from Atlanta and because the Walking Dead is set in and around there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The part about some of the infected showing little to no symptoms is interesting, too. "There are a couple of unique challenges with mumps. Part of that is the incubation [period] is long and can vary quite a bit -- 12 to 25 days," Wallace told ESPN.com "The other challenge is that some -- a relatively high proportion of those infected -- are going to show little or no symptoms, and we don't know how well they will spread [the disease] to others." :zombiechase: because he's from Atlanta and because the Walking Dead is set in and around there. You are having WAY too much fun with that zombie emoticon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 You are having WAY too much fun with that zombie emoticon! I know. I keep thinking...is there any way I can work the zombie smilie into this post... I'm usually on an IPad and I have to type out the smilies, and I only remember a few and these guys are sooooo easy to remember. :zombie: :zombiechase: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Maybe we should resurrect some threads so you can have fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Maybe we should resurrect some threads so you can have fun? Nah, there are enough threads about Christianity on here already. :lol: see what I did there? Resurrect? Christianity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Nah, there are enough threads about Christianity on here already. :lol: see what I did there? Resurrect? Christianity? I can tell you're going to be a real hoot when Lent rolls around this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 The most surprising thing they're not mentioning in this story: owie testiclesin 20-30% of cases of mumps in adult or adolescent men, they get swollen, infected testicles. About 1/2 of those cases can lead to testicular atrophy. And in some cases, it can lead to infertility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have wondered for a long time if there needed to be an adult booster shot for MMR. There was an outbreak among university students this year. The assumption then was that this was the MMR-scare generation. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Isn't mumps the funniest name for an illness. I remember reading with pertussis there are around 60 strains and the vaccine only covers five of the most common. They changed from a more broad vaccine due to not using mercury. Some of the less common strains have increased. I don't know if there are multiple strains of mumps but it's possible. My dad had chicken pox twice and also shingles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GailV Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 There was an outbreak among university students this year. The assumption then was that this was the MMR-scare generation. L Dd's university required proof of having received mumps vaccines twice after the age of 1. I think it might've been a state law. On the other hand, they said meningitis vax was suggested but not required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GailV Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Pertussis is especially noted for wearing off. I had it at 24 after my last booster had been at 12. Horrible experience. I thought the 12 year booster on pertussis was relatively new, as a matter of fact, and came about because the vax isn't totally effective. It's more effective the more recently you've had the vaccination. When I was a kid we didn't do the 12 year. MIL had it when she was young. She still talks about it as the most awful thing ever. (Of course, everything that has ever happened to mil is more dramatic than whatever happened to the rest of us, so I'm sometimes not sure how to take her comments.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Dd's university required proof of having received mumps vaccines twice after the age of 1. I think it might've been a state law. On the other hand, they said meningitis vax was suggested but not required. Both the MMR and meningitis vaccinations were recommended but not compulsory for Calvin. He has had both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storygirl Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I had to get the MMR vaccine in order to enroll in college in the eighties. I remember being very indignant, because I had received the vaccine the day before my first birthday and had to have it redone because it was not AFTER my first birthday. As if one day made a difference in its efficacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I had to get the MMR vaccine in order to enroll in college in the eighties. I remember being very indignant, because I had received the vaccine the day before my first birthday and had to have it redone because it was not AFTER my first birthday. As if one day made a difference in its efficacy. All but two UK universities (and those aren't prestigious) are government financed (more-or-less) so if vaccinations were made compulsory, that would essentially be the government saying that people had to have them. That's not a step that they feel able to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoobie Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have wondered for a long time if there needed to be an adult booster shot for MMR. One has to consider the possibility of waning immunity over time. Combined with the larger degree of global travel now occurring, the world got a little bit smaller and that means more individuals with waning immunity being exposed to disease they otherwise might never have come in contact with 20 years ago. Just a thought. I'm no immunologist for certain, but I have wondered about it. Then to I have also wondered about genetic mutations/adaptations in childhood diseases causing the original formulations to be ineffective. I know several fully immunized adults who were diagnosed with pertussis. They had all their shots. They seem to be recommending it for parents now. My kids span 11 years. No rec with the first 2 in 2003-5 but asked/reminded multiple times with second two in 2012-2014. DH too. (We did the boosters.) They also recommended caregivers and close relatives get one. Pertussis is/was bad here, and DH works with a large immigrant population who do not have childhood immunizations typically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Sidney Crosby has the mumps. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12026993/sidney-crosby-pittsburgh-penguins-diagnosed-mumps Crosby received a booster shot against the virus before he traveled to Russia for the Winter Olympics in February, and initial tests a couple of weeks ago indicated Crosby was not in any danger. "It came as a bit of a surprise," team doctor Dharmesh Vyas said. "Every indication was that he was well protected against the disease." This looks painful. https://www.google.com/search?q=sidney+crosby+mumps&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NmiPVIKmFYKeNvvwgPgM&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=672 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Pertussis is especially noted for wearing off. I had it at 24 after my last booster had been at 12. Horrible experience. "One dose of mumps vaccine will ‘take' (be effective) in approximately 80% of people vaccinated, but two doses of mumps vaccine will ‘take' in approximately 90% of people. Therefore, two doses are better at preventing mumps than one dose." -- from http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/mumps/vac-faqs.htm-- and in the article, he says 10% of the team was affected. I doubt it's the vaccine wearing off so much as the immunization never "took" in the first place and they just weren't exposed until now. Oldest dd needed two doses of varivax (chickenpox) to have it "take." She would get rashes when exposed to kids with chicken pox - no fever, no blister heads, but a definite rash. After the second shot, it never happened again. Isn't chickenpox now actually a two shot vaccine? I got a pertussis booster in 2012. My doc said he was starting to see middle-aged patients who had been vaccinated as children come in with it, and it's not a fun illness at any age! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I thought you meant NIH, but nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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