George was kidnapped from the jungle and sold to a zoo

[La Texican]

Nobody asked, but here's the weekly idiom list I signed up for. Sometimes I read a few to my kid. I figure it will add up.

http://www.byrdseed.com/weekly-idiom-lists/

[mathnerd]

Nobody asked, but here's the weekly idiom list I signed up for. Sometimes I read a few to my kid. I figure it will add up.

http://www.byrdseed.com/weekly-idiom-lists/

Thank you! I was going to ask and then got distracted by all the posts in this thread!

[jewellsmommy]

Dd was listening to this today and it made me think of this thread and the fact that George is not actually a monkey. :lol:

 

It's just a funny Veggie Tales song.

 

Dd is 11 and still likes Curious George. She is big into animal protection and currently wants to be an "animal cop" (Humane Law Enforcement). Her love of Hippos led her to discover the horrible reality of animal poaching and many other evils inflicted on the animal world. We don't go to the circus and have participated in boycotts etc.based on animal welfare. However, dd has no trouble separating out the issues. She obviously 'gets it' better at 11 than she did at 6 but she holds no ill will toward the Curious George books. I think it is all in how you approach these type of issues when you come across them in life, in movies, or in print.

[Melissa in Australia]

I feel like we're even stevens in our getting carried away-ness. We just did it in different directions :laugh:

:lol:

[cathmom]

I wish there was a like button here, especially the bolded. 

There is a like button.

[RootAnn]

When my dd was 3 (maybe 4, but I think 3) I read her Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. Talk about a story chock full of moral issues! She loved it and was wise enough at 3 to empathize with the rats and see the NIMH people as bad.

 

This mention reminds me of the thread about Mrs. Frisby & the Rats of NIMH & how the rats were a bunch of fascists, selfish, and manipulative.  :driving:  

 

IMO, lots of fodder for discussion with these books .... Just a matter of determining if you want to talk about such things or avoid them until children are of a certain age. 

Nonetheless, it is a good heads-up for those who didn't realize what Curious George (or Rainbow Fish or ...) was about.

 

(I know I was grateful someone on Amazon posted about how The Circle Opens & especially The Circle Continues books by Tamera Pierce had some plot lines which were 'older' than what I wanted my 10 year old to be reading. Her Circle of Magic books were ok for her, but I realized I wanted her to be Quite A Bit Older before reading some of the rest of the series. It isn't that I don't want her 'exposed' to what is in those books, just that she should be more mature so we can have discussions about the content.)

[trulycrabby]

I always thought the Cuious George stories were were analogies for the Holocost, and the Reys were very aware of the horror and cruelty of taking George out of the jungle and putting him in the zoo. The zoo stood for the concentration camp, and the animals stood for at least eight million Jews, Catholics, Roma, homosexuals, and other souls who were interred and slaughtered during Hitler's rule. 

 

I think it was their way of talking about it in the form of a children's book. The series has a whole new meaning, when looked at with this viewpoint, I thiInk.

[nmoira]

I always thought the Cuious George stories were were analogies for the Holocost, and the Reys were very aware of the horror and cruelty of taking George out of the jungle and putting him in the zoo. The zoo stood for the concentration camp, and the animals stood for at least eight million Jews, Catholics, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other souls who were interred and slaughtered during Hitler's rule.

 

I think it was their way of talking about it in the form of a children's book. The series has a whole new meaning, when looked at with this viewpoint, I thiInk.

Have you seen this?

 

The Journey that Saved Curious George

http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0547417462

 

In 1940, Hans and Margret Rey fled their Paris home as the German army advanced. They began their harrowing journey on bicycles, pedaling to Southern France with children’s book manuscripts among their few possessions.

 

Louise Borden combed primary resources, including Hans Rey’s pocket diaries, to tell this dramatic true story. Archival materials introduce readers to the world of Hans and Margret Rey while Allan Drummond dramatically and colorfully illustrates their wartime trek to a new home.

[trulycrabby]

Have you seen this?

 

The Journey that Saved Curious George

http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0547417462

 

Yes, I am Jewish, and Curious George has a very important place in the  hearts of Jewish people because he is a Holocost survivor. 

 

I never ever thought the Reys were saying it's okay to keep animals in the zoo. I always thought that they were speaking of how horrid zoos were, but zoos were considered socially acceptable and no one knew or cared how the animals were aquired for the zoo and kept in cages. In my mind, very similar to the rumors of concentration camps years before their existence became well- known, but they existed during the time when Hitler was considered a legitimate leader and thus was considered acceptable to much of Germany and the world because he brought the appearance of economic stability to Germany. Am I making sense? My thoughts are very disjointed right now because I am tired and writing on a tablet and it is difficult to type or edit.

 

George is always narrowly escaping danger, this is a well-known analogy to the Reys' and many other Holocost survivors escape from almost certain dearh at the hands of the Nazis.

[Haiku]

This mention reminds me of the thread about Mrs. Frisby & the Rats of NIMH & how the rats were a bunch of fascists, selfish, and manipulative.  :driving:

Wow. Mondo bizarro. The Amazon review was ... "weird" doesn't go far enough.

 

Tara

[cathmom]

I always thought the Cuious George stories were were analogies for the Holocost, and the Reys were very aware of the horror and cruelty of taking George out of the jungle and putting him in the zoo. The zoo stood for the concentration camp, and the animals stood for at least eight million Jews, Catholics, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other souls who were interred and slaughtered during Hitler's rule. 

 

I think it was their way of talking about it in the form of a children's book. The series has a whole new meaning, when looked at with this viewpoint, I thiInk.

  

Yes, I am Jewish, and Curious George has a very important place in the  hearts of Jewish people because he is a Holocost survivor. 

 

I never ever thought the Reys were saying it's okay to keep animals in the zoo. I always thought that they were speaking of how horrid zoos were, but zoos were considered socially acceptable and no one knew or cared how the animals were aquired for the zoo and kept in cages. In my mind, very similar to the rumors of concentration camps years before their existence became well- known, but they existed during the time when Hitler was considered a legitimate leader and thus was considered acceptable to much of Germany and the world because he brought the appearance of economic stability to Germany. Am I making sense? My thoughts are very disjointed right now because I am tired and writing on a tablet and it is difficult to type or edit.

 

George is always narrowly escaping danger, this is a well-known analogy to the Reys' and many other Holocost survivors escape from almost certain dearh at the hands of the Nazis.

 

This is a fascinating perspective. Thanks for sharing it!

[PachiSusan]

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I am such an idiot. I was thinking I was at my other homeschool forum last night when I said that. Now I REALLY feel dumb!!!!!!!

[cathmom]

I am such an idiot. I was thinking I was at my other homeschool forum last night when I said that. Now I REALLY feel dumb!!!!!!!

Don't worry about it!

[texasmama]

Have you seen this?

 

The Journey that Saved Curious George

http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0547417462

 

We have this book, and I read it to my kids. 

 

This summer, I am reading aloud Grimm's Fairy Tales, which is full of all sorts of sordid stuff.  My sons were quoting from one of the stories about the fisherman whose wife was "the bane of his life".  It was a clever little ditty, and they found it hilarious.

[Kathryn]

Here are the first two pages of the book that introduced Curious George. This one has changed the names, so George is known as George here:

 

 

[trulycrabby]

btw, "pamplemousse" is French for grapefruit. :D