Halcyon Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have mediocre handwriting, and I love the way Spencerian looks. What would I need to get started? A special pen? What books do people recommend? I am willing to put in the time on this--I adore writing letters long-hand, but my penmanship has deteriorated so much that I'm not pleased with how they look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I just put this in my Amazon cart. I'm curious to hear what others say :001_smile:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have a friend with beautiful handwriting and I was just looking at this the other day. I think I might order Fix It Write, which is designed for people who want to re-learn to write. It's not Spencerian but I do like it. Wow, I can't imagine changing my handwriting this late in the game, but like you I'm kinda interested in trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I just put this in my Amazon cart. I'm curious to hear what others say :001_smile:. I was eyeing that too. It looks great. I wonder if you need a special pen to go with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Mott Media sells the books as well. On a side note, y'all need to stop it. I love the looks of those books. I have many antique books with beautiful script written in them. I have decent handwriting, but it's very modern. Maybe a nice cathartic gift for myself. Hm...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have a friend with beautiful handwriting and I was just looking at this the other day. I think I might order Fix It Write, which is designed for people who want to re-learn to write. It's not Spencerian but I do like it. Wow, I can't imagine changing my handwriting this late in the game, but like you I'm kinda interested in trying. That does look interesting. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 That does look interesting. Thank you! For me, it's a more realistic happy medium. :tongue_smilie: And I know my heart soars when I get a note from my friend, so it's where my interest originated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Here's an interesting site. http://www.iampeth.com/lessons.php I would think a nice fountain pen or pen and ink would be a great way to learn. In lieu of that I am liking the new Sharpie pens for nice writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I just put this in my Amazon cart. I'm curious to hear what others say :001_smile:. That's the one sold in the homeschool store I order from. I was just looking at it today thinking how awesome it would be to write like that, but my writing is like chicken scratch. I don't think it will get any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 If you want Spencerian, then of course you'd get the Spencerian books from Mott Media. And you'd want a fountain pen. Doesn't have to be an expensive one, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilliums Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I tried the Spencerian penmanship books along with my children. We used beautiful glass Dipping pens and the ink bled through and made a bit of a mess of the booklet, causing a bit of frustration for all of us. I think the kids did not have a delicate enough touch to avoid these problems plus the glass pens delivered a lit of ink in a rather inpredictable fashion. Probably shouldn't have taken on both new tasks simultaneously. :001_smile: I now have the remainingbooks listed in the for sale board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I've had the Spencerian books sitting here in the classroom since September... Someone pleeeease post an Amazon link for a good (straight forward) pen.:001_smile: I want to click "buy it now and be done with it!! :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett_ashley Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 i LOOOOVE these disposable fountain pens. http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Disposable-Fountain-Assorted-90029/dp/B00092PRCA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327559439&sr=8-1 You can find them in boxes of all black or all blue on order from office supply stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 If you want Spencerian, then of course you'd get the Spencerian books from Mott Media. And you'd want a fountain pen. Doesn't have to be an expensive one, though. Thank you Ellie! Have you used the books? Can I see examples of your handwriting? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth S Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) I love calligraphy, and have bought two black markers with a flat tip (at Hobby Lobby). I'm not looking for authentic, just "nice". And I'm a bit short on patience, so this works for me. I practiced while on vacation with the family in a remote cabin. Enjoy! I have this one, which has two different tips: http://www.thescrapbookstore.ie/zigcalligraphypenblack-p-1465.html Edited January 26, 2012 by Beth S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 i LOOOOVE these disposable fountain pens. http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Disposable-Fountain-Assorted-90029/dp/B00092PRCA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327559439&sr=8-1 You can find them in boxes of all black or all blue on order from office supply stores. Thank you! I just ordered one to try out. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The Spencerian books are on my shelf, the Shelf of Shame. I will get to it eventually. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 The Spencerian books are on my shelf, the Shelf of Shame. I will get to it eventually. :tongue_smilie: Ha! I think we all have that shelf....:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I found this at Staples but I suggest going to http://www.jetpens.com to get it. It has a flat nib for calligraphy type writing. Doesn't over deposit ink like the Pilot Varsity disposables do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) I found this at Staples but I suggest going to http://www.jetpens.com to get it. It has a flat nib for calligraphy type writing. Doesn't over deposit ink like the Pilot Varsity disposables do. Links like these should not be allowed until evening. Jet pens is a wonderful site, however last time we started looking ds and I spent the entire afternoon dreaming and making a wish list. :lol: Edited January 26, 2012 by elegantlion inability to finish a sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Links like these should not be allowed until evening. Jet pens is a wonderful site, however last time we started looking ds and I spent the entire afternoon dreaming and making a wish list. :lol: Ha! I place an order earlier this week. I got pink fountain pens with pink ink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Ha! I place an order earlier this week. I got pink fountain pens with pink ink! :D <--- this is my big green with envy smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I found this at Staples but I suggest going to http://www.jetpens.com to get it. It has a flat nib for calligraphy type writing. Doesn't over deposit ink like the Pilot Varsity disposables do. Wait... which one did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I didn't see Micheal Sull mentioned, http://spencerian.com/. I have his instructional DVD. And this is his newest instructional for kids and adults. Just came out this past December... http://spencerian.com/images/AmericanCursiveOnlineOrder08_06_11.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Wait... which one did you get? Which pen are you referring to? The one is my picture or the Varsity ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Which pen are you referring to? The one is my picture or the Varsity ones? The one in the picture. (I ordered the Varsity one this morning) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I didn't see Micheal Sull mentioned, http://spencerian.com/. I have his instructional DVD. And this is his newest instructional for kids and adults. Just came out this past December... http://spencerian.com/images/AmericanCursiveOnlineOrder08_06_11.pdf Thank you. I wonder, does anyone know how a lefty with a bit of a hook would do with Spencerian script, or American Cursive, for that matter? I think DS would love to learn this, but he is a lefty with a bit of a hook, and script is generally hard for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The one in the picture.(I ordered the Varsity one this morning) Pilot Plumix I paid $9 at Staples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASDAQ Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have used the Mott Media Spencerian books and my handwriting is quite attractive now. I would look into a lightning nib if you are a lefty, or write Copperplate with a regular nib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Pilot Plumix I paid $9 at Staples. Ordered it! Thanks LG :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgialee Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I came across this website with scans of some of the older instructional books: http://www.iampeth.com/lessons_spencerian.php :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I came across this website with scans of some of the older instructional books: http://www.iampeth.com/lessons_spencerian.php :001_smile: Thank you so much. I am going to have some fun shopping online this weekend, I think....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgialee Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I've been on that website for 2 hours trying to master the techniques, lol! I hadn't even ever thought about learning a different style of script before this thread. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I found this at Staples but I suggest going to www.jetpens.com to get it. It has a flat nib for calligraphy type writing. Doesn't over deposit ink like the Pilot Varsity disposables do. :iagree: I got the Pelikan's at Jetpens, and the lefty, too. they are awesome. I also got a rainbow of Preppy.. Jetpens has great service and fast delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I've been on that website for 2 hours trying to master the techniques, lol! I hadn't even ever thought about learning a different style of script before this thread. :D Which website--iampeth? I am going to try this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 How important is a fountain pen to Spencerian Penmanship, and how important is a left handed nib for a lefty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 How important is a fountain pen to Spencerian Penmanship, and how important is a left handed nib for a lefty? Well, I'm not lefty, but my son is and they apply pressure differently, so the nib presses in a way that doesn't let the ink flow evenly or at all. He says the angle of the nib is wrong for leftys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm sorry everyone... I have brain fog today. Will someone please help me out and post a link to a lefty fountain pen (that's simple, good, and not too pricey). I'm so excited about the fact that I FINALLY ordered the (righty) fountain pens! Thank you to Halcyon for starting this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Found these guide sheets which might help in your practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ds worked through the first few (three or four?) Mott Media Spencerian books several years ago. He used a pencil. Sure, a fountain pen would have been more authentic, but my goal wasn't calligraphy, but a generally smoother, more elegant script. I found the book about *how* to use the workbooks unnecessarily complex and not as helpful as I would have liked. But it did improve his (already decent) handwriting. When he chooses to have really lovely script, he can, though we haven't officially practiced in years now. My kids do also have fountain pens. They have Pelikan (Pelikano?) Jr fountain pens. About $12 from Amazon. Slightly smaller than standard fountain pens, cheap, and durable. I've been happy with them. But I can see why the flow of ink would be too much for the tiny spaces and the quality of paper in the MM Spencerian workbooks. I guess I could try to find one and use the two together to see. ;) There was another company that was trying to get off the ground with another, slightly updated Spencerian workbook. It looked more useable, but it was more expensive and I'm not sure the company ever really worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm sorry everyone... I have brain fog today. Will someone please help me out and post a link to a lefty fountain pen (that's simple, good, and not too pricey). I'm so excited about the fact that I FINALLY ordered the (righty) fountain pens! Thank you to Halcyon for starting this thread. Lefty Pelikano beginner for kids. For adults you can use the fine tip Preppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm sorry everyone... I have brain fog today. Will someone please help me out and post a link to a lefty fountain pen (that's simple, good, and not too pricey). I'm so excited about the fact that I FINALLY ordered the (righty) fountain pens! Thank you to Halcyon for starting this thread. You're welcome-I am confused too--I would like the "right" fountain pen for righty-not too expensive ,and the one for lefties too--can someone link me to them? ETA Nevermind-posting at the same time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Lefty Pelikano beginner for kids. For adults you can use the fine tip Preppy. Do the body colors of the Pelikano correspond to the ink color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgialee Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Found these guide sheets which might help in your practice. Thanks for posting the link - that will definitely help :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ds worked through the first few (three or four?) Mott Media Spencerian books several years ago. He used a pencil. Sure, a fountain pen would have been more authentic, but my goal wasn't calligraphy, but a generally smoother, more elegant script. I found the book about *how* to use the workbooks unnecessarily complex and not as helpful as I would have liked. But it did improve his (already decent) handwriting. When he chooses to have really lovely script, he can, though we haven't officially practiced in years now. My kids do also have fountain pens. They have Pelikan (Pelikano?) Jr fountain pens. About $12 from Amazon. Slightly smaller than standard fountain pens, cheap, and durable. I've been happy with them. But I can see why the flow of ink would be too much for the tiny spaces and the quality of paper in the MM Spencerian workbooks. I guess I could try to find one and use the two together to see. ;) There was another company that was trying to get off the ground with another, slightly updated Spencerian workbook. It looked more useable, but it was more expensive and I'm not sure the company ever really worked out. Would this be conducive to teaching a class of say....4? Ages 12, 11, 9, & 8? The 12 and 9 year olds have the most cursive skills, and the 11 & 8 year olds are about on the same level (since the 11 year old forgot everything). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Lefty Pelikano beginner for kids. For adults you can use the fine tip Preppy. Thanks! Just ordered it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ds worked through the first few (three or four?) Mott Media Spencerian books several years ago. He used a pencil. Sure, a fountain pen would have been more authentic, but my goal wasn't calligraphy, but a generally smoother, more elegant script. I found the book about *how* to use the workbooks unnecessarily complex and not as helpful as I would have liked. But it did improve his (already decent) handwriting. When he chooses to have really lovely script, he can, though we haven't officially practiced in years now. My kids do also have fountain pens. They have Pelikan (Pelikano?) Jr fountain pens. About $12 from Amazon. Slightly smaller than standard fountain pens, cheap, and durable. I've been happy with them. But I can see why the flow of ink would be too much for the tiny spaces and the quality of paper in the MM Spencerian workbooks. I guess I could try to find one and use the two together to see. ;) There was another company that was trying to get off the ground with another, slightly updated Spencerian workbook. It looked more useable, but it was more expensive and I'm not sure the company ever really worked out. Was it SmithHand? http://smithhand.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Do the body colors of the Pelikano correspond to the ink color? I believe so-but you can purchase different color ink cartridges for refills. I just bought the blue. They have little bits of paper you write the student's name on and slip into the handle so they can tell them apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakshmi Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I just put this in my Amazon cart. I'm curious to hear what others say :001_smile:. On my wish list.... My grandmother, auntie and mother all use this script. Well, technically my grandmother doesn't she died. But still she did use it. Whenever I look at their writing I HAVE to read it to tell whose it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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