Sahamamama Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 My daughter's doctrine curriculum asks this question: "Who do I worship?" Is "who" correct, or should this be "whom?" Why who? Why whom? (I know, I know, I need to study grammar! I'm crawling through Latin, so in a way, I'm working on grammar). :D Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 My daughter's doctrine curriculum asks this question: "Who do I worship?" Is "who" correct, or should this be "whom?" Why who? Why whom? (I know, I know, I need to study grammar! I'm crawling through Latin, so in a way, I'm working on grammar). :D Thanks! It should be whom. Is it the direct object of "do worship," therefore you need the objective case. Here's a trick. Substitute he for who and him for whom. It works pretty well. For a question you'd flip it back to a sentence: I do worship whom. Now, would you say: I do worship he. or I do worship him. See? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I agree - whom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahamamama Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Thanks! That's what I thought... you know, "who" just didn't sound "right," but I wanted to be certain. Thanks, ladies! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I thought whom was archaic. It certainly isn't in usage around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 It should be whom. Is it the direct object of "do worship," therefore you need the objective case. Here's a trick. Substitute he for who and him for whom. It works pretty well. For a question you'd flip it back to a sentence: I do worship whom. Now, would you say: I do worship he. or I do worship him. See? Nice explanation! :001_smile: Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathmom Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I thought whom was archaic. It certainly isn't in usage around here. Whom is still in use in the US, but very few people understand it or use it correctly. One more generation or two and it will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'd rather a "who" instead of "whom" than the reverse, e.g. "Whom is coming down those stairs?" I feel the same way about me/I: "It's me!" is not particularly irritating. "My brother gave my husband and I a new car" grates on my nerves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 It should be whom. Is it the direct object of "do worship," therefore you need the objective case. Here's a trick. Substitute he for who and him for whom. It works pretty well. For a question you'd flip it back to a sentence: I do worship whom. Now, would you say: I do worship he. or I do worship him. See? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Nice explanation! :001_smile: Bill Thanks. I do sell/write a grammar program, so I better be able to explain it! LOL Otherwise I need to find other work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Whom is still in use in the US, but very few people understand it or use it correctly. One more generation or two and it will be gone. Not if I can help it! :tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'd rather a "who" instead of "whom" than the reverse, e.g. "Whom is coming down those stairs?" I feel the same way about me/I: "It's me!" is not particularly irritating. "My brother gave my husband and I a new car" grates on my nerves. My peeve is "myself." What a cop out! "Please give it to Rob or myself." ARRGGHGGGGHG!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 My peeve is "myself." What a cop out! "Please give it to Rob or myself." ARRGGHGGGGHG!!!! You know I have already proven my ignorance today, but THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS BOARD! You guys rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Thanks. I do sell/write a grammar program, so I better be able to explain it! LOL Otherwise I need to find other work! I've watched your video on-line (many times) :lol: Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Time Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) Not if I can help it! :tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie: More power to you!!! The other grammar concept on the endangered list is the good/well problem. Not sure that will even make it through another generation. What is your grammar program? Do you have a website I could look at? If you don't mind! Edited November 8, 2009 by Tea Time to add a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 My peeve is "myself." What a cop out! "Please give it to Rob or myself." ARRGGHGGGGHG!!!! I hate that too. But then there's always the "triple threat" : "Well, me myself, I love the pie." ;) It's so out of control, where so many people make mistakes, that it's easy for some people to lose one's bearings because you hear the wrong thing ALL THE TIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I've watched your video on-line (many times) :lol: Bill Oh, YOU'RE that ISP address that keeps popping up on my analytics! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 More power to you!!! The other grammar concept on the endangered list is the good/well problem. Not sure that will even make it through another generation. What is your grammar program? Do you have a website I could look at? If you don't mind! No kidding. One is an adjective, one is an adverb! How hard can that be?? (Hard for those who don't understand how those parts of speech function ... but I digress.) Analytical Grammar was written by my mom. I run the company. The Web site is http://www.analyticalgrammar.com. I'm the goofball in the video on the homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahamamama Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 No kidding. One is an adjective, one is an adverb! How hard can that be?? (Hard for those who don't understand how those parts of speech function ... but I digress.) Analytical Grammar was written by my mom. I run the company. The Web site is www.analyticalgrammar.com. I'm the goofball in the video on the homepage. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I am honored. Erin, when I read your response, I had no idea you are THAT Erin. Wow. This is like being answered directly by the Daughter of the Grammar God. Thank you. I bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistyJ Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Whom is still in use in the US, but very few people understand it or use it correctly. One more generation or two and it will be gone. It will be an elitist usage that distinguishes those who were homeschooled. ;) As well as the "less and fewer" issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I am honored. Erin, when I read your response, I had no idea you are THAT Erin. Wow. This is like being answered directly by the Daughter of the Grammar God. Thank you. I bow. :lol: Almost spit my ice cream out on the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I am honored. Erin, when I read your response, I had no idea you are THAT Erin. Wow. This is like being answered directly by the Daughter of the Grammar God. Thank you. I bow. (blush) As you were ... I'll be on the message boards all day! LOL I think YOU'RE the goofball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Oh, YOU'RE that ISP address that keeps popping up on my analytics! LOL Uh oh, I'm busted :lol: I just find your video so relaxing :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 It will be an elitist usage that distinguishes those who were homeschooled. ;) Er? Not to insult anyone here, but I see plenty of typos and grammar problems. As for me myself, whom loves grammer, I don't have all the answers -- at least not yet! Maybe I need to look into some new curriculums. ;) My kids learned a lot about "whom" from Peter Rabbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Time Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Er? Not to insult anyone here, but I see plenty of typos and grammar problems. As for me myself, whom loves grammer, I don't have all the answers -- at least not yet! Maybe I need to look into some new curriculums. ;) My kids learned a lot about "whom" from Peter Rabbit. :D:lol::D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Time Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 No kidding. One is an adjective, one is an adverb! How hard can that be?? (Hard for those who don't understand how those parts of speech function ... but I digress.) Analytical Grammar was written by my mom. I run the company. The Web site is www.analyticalgrammar.com. I'm the goofball in the video on the homepage. Thank you! Good to know! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Er? Not to insult anyone here, but I see plenty of typos and grammar problems. As for me myself, whom loves grammer, I don't have all the answers -- at least not yet! Maybe I need to look into some new curriculums. ;) My kids learned a lot about "whom" from Peter Rabbit. We learned it from one of the Wooster and Jeeves books. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I feel the same way about me/I: "It's me!" is not particularly irritating. "My brother gave my husband and I a new car" grates on my nerves. It wouldn't grate on my nerves if my brother gave me a new car! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl2 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Er? Not to insult anyone here, but I see plenty of typos and grammar problems. As for me myself, whom loves grammer, I don't have all the answers -- at least not yet! Maybe I need to look into some new curriculums. ;) My kids learned a lot about "whom" from Peter Rabbit. SNORT! That's hilarious. There was a MAJOR who/whom thing in a thread title on here not too long ago. We're all guilty of it. Look at it this way ... can you imagine the pressure when you sell a grammar program to have blemish free e-mails/posts/notes etc? I mis-type things ALL THE TIME and I always have to go back and fix things. I'm just waiting for someone to tell me someday that they didn't purchase our material because of a typo in a message board posting from me. Sigh ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) It wouldn't grate on my nerves if my brother gave me a new car! :D Alas, I am always the one listening to someone say that, never the recipient. (Maybe because I don't have a brother? ;) ) But my point was that I don't think we should say that homeschooled kids are the only ones who know grammar OR that all homeschooled kids know it. My point was that I constantly see grammatical errors on here, so we're clearly not perfect even if we'd like to be. And not all of us are tenth generation homeschoolers who've had the holy grammar grail personally transmitted...., and anyway, I'm with SWB on this one. Edited November 10, 2009 by stripe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Time Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 SNORT! That's hilarious. There was a MAJOR who/whom thing in a thread title on here not too long ago. We're all guilty of it. Look at it this way ... can you imagine the pressure when you sell a grammar program to have blemish free e-mails/posts/notes etc? I mis-type things ALL THE TIME and I always have to go back and fix things. I'm just waiting for someone to tell me someday that they didn't purchase our material because of a typo in a message board posting from me. Sigh ... Too much pressure can chill free speech. I would hate to see that! :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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