Pamela H in Texas Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Okay, so the other day on the bedwetting thread, the Enuresis Center was linked. I called. The consultation is $75 and treatment will probably run a little under $3000. They will do a payment plan. My son is 14. He has other symptoms of this sleep disorder including adhd dx, falling asleep on a dime, learning/memory problems, apnea, etc. It plays very heavily on his self-esteem and confidence. According to information available, there is a strong likelihood my ds would be part of the 1/2% of people who do this into adulthood. According to this website, it's at 76% chance of doing so at least til 19. We don't have a lot of money, but I'm starting to see this as necessary as any treatment for a medical issue. I would never wonder if we should find treatment (mainstream or alternative) for various health or mental conditions. I feel guilty even considering not doing this for half a second. Sometimes we have to sacrifice for our kids right? And it is a money back guarantee with a program with a 97% success rate! Whatcha think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickelfritz Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Yeah. If I could find any way to do it, I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela H in Texas Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 yes. We've talked to various doctors including the bedwetting specialist at Children's. She did testing and said he's fine. He's been on medication. We tried chiropractic care. We tried eliminating things from his diet. We tried adding things to his diet. We've tried waiting it out. We've tried waking him up. We've restricted fluids mildly and to an extreme. We've tried exercise. We've tried so much I can't even remember what else we've tried! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Okay, so the other day on the bedwetting thread, the Enuresis Center was linked. I called. The consultation is $75 and treatment will probably run a little under $3000. They will do a payment plan. My son is 14. He has other symptoms of this sleep disorder including adhd dx, falling asleep on a dime, learning/memory problems, apnea, etc. It plays very heavily on his self-esteem and confidence. According to information available, there is a strong likelihood my ds would be part of the 1/2% of people who do this into adulthood. According to this website, it's at 76% chance of doing so at least til 19. We don't have a lot of money, but I'm starting to see this as necessary as any treatment for a medical issue. I would never wonder if we should find treatment (mainstream or alternative) for various health or mental conditions. I feel guilty even considering not doing this for half a second. Sometimes we have to sacrifice for our kids right? And it is a money back guarantee with a program with a 97% success rate! Whatcha think? It*is* a medical issue. What does your insurance company say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 It*is* a medical issue. What does your insurance company say? I just looked at their website and see that they say it is not a medical condition. That seems bizarre to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaT Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Yes, I would somehow find the money to do it if at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan in SC Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 My six year old has a bedwetting issue and sleep apnea. When he had his sleep study done, they said the apnea has been causing his bedwetting. He is having his tonsils and adenoids removed for the apnea. The ENT and the pediatrician believe that solving the sleep apnea will stop the bedwetting. I don't know if you have visited an ENT, but I thought I'd throw it out there! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 yes. We've talked to various doctors including the bedwetting specialist at Children's. She did testing and said he's fine. He's been on medication. We tried chiropractic care. We tried eliminating things from his diet. We tried adding things to his diet. We've tried waiting it out. We've tried waking him up. We've restricted fluids mildly and to an extreme. We've tried exercise. We've tried so much I can't even remember what else we've tried! LOL Have you tried treating his apnea? If treating his sleep apnea would fall under insurance, I think I would try that first. I don't know if I'd try these people. I was at the website the day it was linked, and the fact they don't list any prices on their website bothered me, and it also seemed to me that a lot of their information/facts came from the people who work for them. I can't honestly say what I'd do,but I think I'd lean towards no. I've got 5 bedwetters, although I think my oldest at 10nextmonth has finally outgrown it. At 14, though, I don't know what I'd do. My mom wet the bed into teenage-hood and she outgrew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela H in Texas Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) The reason they don't list prices is because there is some difference in price based on the individual involved. Treating a 7yo is a bit easier than a 15yo but also certain aspects differ. From what I told them (not a full consultation), they said it'd probably be about $2800-3000. We actually were looking into seeing an ENT though reg doc sees no real reason her her opinion. Unfortunately, the only one here in town closed down a month or so ago. Edited June 26, 2009 by 2J5M9K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Sleep disorders are medical diagnoses; enuresis, body aches, memory loss, etc, are outward signs. "Bed wetting" may not be covered, but a sleep disorder should be. I would totally spend the money, and I would submit the bill to my insurance company. Even if they only pay part, it's helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in St Louis Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I have a friend that did this for her daughter and they cannot speak highly enough of it. Within weeks the girl was having many dry nights!:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I would first ask what my insurance might cover, if you could figure out a way to do it for sleep apnea...or something like that. If it has nothing to do with bedwetting, I bet (hope) that you could get more paid for... And, really, anything but bed wetting is more of your problem. I know one person who wet their bed until adult hood (19) and then didn't ever wet the bed again. Carrie:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I'd look into getting him into a sleep study, get the apnea treated. That's more of a health issue, and likely the reason for the bed wetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I would first pursue better treatment for the apnea and sleep dysfunction. I also think an ENT might be a good way to go. I think your general practitioner is wrong. Your son definitely needs a specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 At first I was going to say no way, but then put leaning toward yes after seeing your post. I'd wait until he was 15, though. I have a relative (not a sibling, parent or child or me) who wet the bed until she was 14. If he's still doing it at 15, then I'd lean toward that 1/2 percent and spend the money if it really and truly has a 97 percent success rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagira Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Sleep disorders are medical diagnoses; enuresis, body aches, memory loss, etc, are outward signs. "Bed wetting" may not be covered, but a sleep disorder should be. I would totally spend the money, and I would submit the bill to my insurance company. Even if they only pay part, it's helpful. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I would definitely get a sleep study and work on the apnea first. That is definitely a medical condition and is covered by most insurance plans. My hubby went in for a sleep study and found that he had sleep apnea. He now uses a CPAP and it has made a world of difference. I would also concurrently see an ENT and see what could be done there then if none of that worked, I would consider this other treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 What is that much money compared to the child's quality of life. And how can you go wrong with such a cure rate and return of funds if it fails. I wouldn't hesitate one second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 yes. We've talked to various doctors including the bedwetting specialist at Children's. She did testing and said he's fine. He's been on medication. We tried chiropractic care. We tried eliminating things from his diet. We tried adding things to his diet. We've tried waiting it out. We've tried waking him up. We've restricted fluids mildly and to an extreme. We've tried exercise. We've tried so much I can't even remember what else we've tried! LOL Have you been to a wholistic MD and had a battery of tests done? Cheaper than what you're looking at. We found trial and error dietary changes were useless. After testing a number of things, an ELISA test turned up a long list of food sensitivities. Some were things we'd eliminated but hadn't seen any significant difference. Doing the whole new diet was helpful. Not for sleep apnea, of course, Do get the sleep apnea taken care of first. That is a serious problem, moreso than the bedwetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela H in Texas Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 Ty has a doc appt next Friday morning. The website pretty much outlines all our concerns so I feel confident that they'll figure it out. If we solve those problems and still haven't solved the night time wetting, we'll do the other. I don't think we can just continue to wait though. I wish I had outlined things more clearly to y'all before and done THIS much already. THANKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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