At the very least I'm getting that I'm not completely off my block to have huge reservations with the manner this is set to be addressed. I think I'm going to ask to meet with her before she talks to the girl and parents. Rebel Yell- modesty beating-that's what this upcoming meeting to address it is screaming out to me- thank you for the term!

Tohru- our policy manual indicates that class b shirts are appropriate for non-troop meeting events, but the language doesn't require it. That will change. It would be one thing if the coordinator was addressing the fact that a class b wasn't worn, but that isn't what is going on here. 1- most girls weren't in their class b's (including her own daughters) due to it being an "event" (badge workshop) at a private home and several girls are new and hadn't received them yet. 2. She specifically commented on the lack of appropriateness of what she wore.

This is my fear. I'm absolutely NOT going to say anything as I agree with exactly everything stated above. I don't think the coordinator should address it in the manner she described, which would absolutely shame the girl and alienate the mom.

Anne- That thought crossed my mind too- maybe I'll give that doc a call to feel him out and then call the ped if the ortho decides it isn't necessary to even see him. And Ravin...yep. 😎

You're right, klmama. All very good points. 😊 I'll make the appointment.

This. Exactly.

Yes!! Lesson learned for not being more "firm" on the class B shirt uniform. Going forward we will definitely be "requiring" it. That's my concern too....there really isn't a specific dress code laid out for non-uniform events, it's just implied. Truth be told, my older daughter dresses much more modestly because that is just who she is and it just reflects how we have raised her. I don't see it as better or worse than how the other parents choose to let their girls dress. It's just different. So, while I don't think it is appropriate for her to dress that way, I am by no means going to look down on her. It's her choice. It isn't my job to parent her or tell her parents how to parent her.

And the ER told you to follow up with his pediatrician, would you bother? Reason I ask is because: 1- My other son fractured his wrist last week and we were told to follow up with an orthopedic surgeon, and we did so. However, my youngest breaks his collar bone, and is told to just follow up with his regular doc. Why the difference? 2- his pediatrician is "nice" but only helpful in getting forms completed for school. I can almost guarantee you that if we were to "follow-up" with him, he would literally just print out a bunch of informational papers directly from the internet right there in the office and send us on our way. Ask me how I know.... Is there something else he would/could do?

Our AHG troop had a special event last weekend where some girls wore their class b shirts, and some did not. Really not a big deal for this particular event. Anyway, one of the girls (age 12) showed up in a skin tight dress, leggings and high heeled boots. I didn't think much of it, only thought it was odd being that these girls knew they were going to be outside in the mud. I was speaking with the coordinator this afternoon and she mentioned that she needed to address the manner in which this particular girl dressed for this event. I'm having huge reservations about this. Yes, AHG is incredibly conservative and the idea is to model "modesty". That said...... I just don't feel it is the troop's place to dictate to girls how they dress. It just feels like a boundary stomper. The certainty with which my coordinator declared this upcoming "intervention" has left me wondering if I'm missing something. Am I just too "liberal" in this thinking? I mean, if I am, then I am. I would just like to see where I fall on the spectrum with this. So....What are your thoughts? Just curious- not looking to start or even entertain a scout bashing over this. Update- everyone was so helpful with their advice/suggestions that I figured I would give a brief update. The coordinator and I spoke and we were able to come to an agreement to handle this by simply requiring class b shirts to ALL outside events, regardless of where said events are located. We have an upcoming service project for MADD which will involve lots of mud and yard work so as a troop last night we discussed specific clothing items to wear (pants, rain gear, work gloves, closed toe shoes, etc). All the girls, especially the PiPas, were right there animatedly contributing to the discussion and helping the younger TH understand, etc. so it was a success. 😄 Thank you all-

So who performs the actual test at the community/YMCA pool? Is it one of their lifeguards? Do they typically charge a fee on top of the admission fee? Do you make an appt. with them or just show up and say "test us!"? 😄 Yes, I will definitely call and gather the official info, but it helps to have a heads up first from those who have gone before me. 😎

Sorror- glad to hear your trip went well! Question about those future trips you are planning, especially the canoeing and kayaking. It's my understanding that the girls and all participating adults need a swim test- how did your troop go about doing that? Did you hire a life guard, go to a public pool, etc? I'm really wanting to schedule some trips for our girls but am having difficulty figuring out just how to go about it all. 😄

You know, that's interesting. I'm wondering if something else is going on at our troop level because whenever a desire is brought forth for anything outdoor related, the default answer is "no" and the reason is always tied into health and safety standards. My apologies for inadvertently hijacking the thread! 😊

Perhaps not entirely related, but one factor that plays into a troop not offering HA/outdoor activities is the strict health and safety requirements. At least with our troop, we have lots of interest and enough parental support, but it seems that's where it stops because of AHG's approach to those kinds of activities in light of insurance. I do think you might see more HA/outdoor type of activities if it was more like BSA where parents sign a waver before participating.

I had a similar experience with an allergy doctor. I never initiated contact with them, but once they received my insurance approval from my GP, the calls began. Every single day I received a call with a message from a very persistent receptionist. I kid you not, this went on for over 2 weeks. Im sure I'm leaving out details, but bottom line they lost my business.

Sent you a pm Fingers crossed they are still avaialble!

Man, this whole driving thing really IS hard! It's difficult in finding a balance between letting them go and wanting to keep them safe. I'm usually pretty level headed when it comes to allowing the kids more independence, etc. but this driving with friends is another level of trust for me. I think the difficult part for me is that I don't know these kids as drivers. We've only been in the area for two years so while my ds has great friends, I don't necessarily know all their parents. Clearly it's time to get to know these parents. 😄 My dh and I were discussing this the other day and he was sharing with me how he almost killed a buddy of his in HS because he (my dh) was trying to show off in front of his friends and in so doing was driving erratically, causing his buddy to get thrown out the back of his truck. 😳 After sharing this horrifying story, he proceeded to tell me that I need to relax on my "rule" of ds not driving with kids who haven't had their license for a year yet. Ummmmm.....dude. After hearing that story, ds isn't driving with ANYONE until he's 30!!!! Smh. Thank you everyone for sharing your point of view and experiences. I'm enjoying reading your input. 😄

My ds is wanting to ride in the car with drivers who are only a year ahead of him in their driving experience. My dh are disagreeing as to when it will be allowed. I'm trying to flesh out if one of us is being overprotective or wise in our thinking.... So- when did you allow your teens to ride along with other teen drivers?

This documentary is amazing! We watched it several months ago and I believe it was on Netflix

Cream of Wheat got me through all three first trimesters. 😎

My dd13 completed the Winter Promise unit last year and loved it. She knew quite a bit about horses to begin with, owns one, shows one, etc. and she still learned a great deal.

My two boys went through every single stage, including the logo one- too funny!

We painted our oak (we aren't honey-colored oak wood fans) banister black in our former home and it looked sharp. It was a lot of work and a big mess with all the sanding, but worth it. $1000 does seem high, however after going through it ourselves, it seems almost reasonable. In our home prior to that one we painted our banister white. It also looked much better but, despite the sealant we applied, took on a dirty-dishwater type of color due to the constant use by our little ones at the time. The darker wood also showed through easily when the paint chipped (we didn't sand that first time- big mistake). I would suggest considering painting it, or even staining it, a darker color with your kiddos chewing on it.

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Oh my goodness!! LOVE!!!

I grew up in the area- it is a fantastic zoo and yes- wear supportive shoes for all the hilly walking you will do. That zoo inadvertently made me a zoo "snob". 😄 It's a really good one.... Eta- check out the museums in nearby Balboa Park too!