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  1. Assumptions. I give up. Just know that I absolutely agree with this. Good point. I see the error of my ways. However, they weren't irrelevant to ME. Believe it or not, they confirmed what I was already thinking. We're more alike than you are allowing yourself to believe. (based on these posts alone)
  2. Did you read all the posts? I WAS NOT FOCUSING ON THE CLOTHES! I clarified in an earlier post....this is NOT ME questioning clothing choices, the use of the stupid rainbows, not even the LGBTQ community. That was MERELY an example of my frustration over the extreme HYPOCRISY of a group claiming one thing and seemingly promoting another thing. I have NO personal issue with it. I was listening to conversations regarding this among other leaders and parents and thought....hmmmm. I wonder what the hive thinks. They are an intelligent group of individuals who can separate out the emotional issue and see the discussion for what it truly is. Stop. Remove the assumptions. Remove it all and see the discussion as it was.
  3. But I have no proof. All I have are the incident reports I filed, none of which I actually witnessed.
  4. No. No authorities have been involved. This is what was told to me (and the mom of the 11 year old girl) by our coordinator and the camp director
  5. Agreed! To clarify-I'm not worried. I think it is my attempt to divert my attention away from what is really eating me up I'm sorry.
  6. Here is what I was told: since there is no documentation or proof of her physically touching anyone in a "harming" manner, there isn't cause for alarm or any further lines of protection since there was no evidence of anything physical happening between her and 11 year old that night, this will be treated as a 1st offense minor infraction
  7. Funny you said this- I voiced my concern that this girl was going to camp without mom. I was told that "a lot of strings had to be pulled" in order to get her there. I was told this after all this went down. WHAT????
  8. no, there isn't. I have no idea if anything was shared with her by other parents or what not. Wait! I stand corrected. Another new girl left the troop in November. Mom told coordinator it was because she didn't feel her daughter was being protected from what she called...gah I forget her term, but basically dangerous behavior. I remember being bothered over how Coordinator labeled mom as overprotective when she shared this with me.
  9. It is my impression that she is in a lot of therapy, but I don't know for sure. And I kept telling my husband this after each time coordinator downplayed it-this is a huge lawsuit waiting to happen.
  10. Once I discovered that coordinator didn't share this with fellow leaders, mom and I approached her. She dismissed us and added that mom's daughter needs to learn to say no and also implied that she should get her daughter into a self-defense class. I can't even..... So she and I decided to go to camp director. Camp director was very alarmed. She went to speak with Coordinator. I don't know what coordinator said, but I do know she must have dismissed our concerns and downplayed the girl's history because when we all met again, Camp Director's alarmed demeanor had faded. We were told she would remain in room and a leader would camp outside the door at night. I was then verbally attacked for going to camp director. I had to leave to come home. I am still shaking.
  11. YES!!! The mom of the girl involved in the latest incident has a brother whose life was destroyed because of what happened to him at a scout camp when he was her daughter's age. Even though she is confident nothing physical happened, she is an absolute mess.
  12. Ah got it. That makes more sense. Rainbow socks in isolation isn't the issue here (my daughter has a pair). I mentioned that in an attempt to paint a complete picture and I'm failing miserably at it. ?
  13. But see, that is different. Your church is presenting themselves as a community that supports the LGBTQ community, so members are fully aware of what they can expect. They aren't presenting as one thing, and then acting as another.
  14. I'm quoting one of Tibbie's responses to reiterate the crux of my struggle. My apologies for making this so confusing. Thank you for helping me clarify my thoughts on this.
  15. This is what I've been pondering as well. What a difficult position to be in. I don't know anything about that aspect of the situation. Again-my beef is with the hypocrisy that is being displayed. Either be all inclusive, or not. Don't "preach" one side while "supporting" the side you are preaching against, for lack of a better way to put it.
  16. While I process this, and work on forming more replies, could I beg you ladies for prayer? I'm pleading for prayer
  17. Lady Florida, try not to read into it. What I meant by that statement was everything AHG outlines in their handbook, and I didn't want to type it all out. ?
  18. This is absolutely, in my opinion, grooming, predatory behavior. Her documented history is full of what I would absolutely call grooming behavior. I was told by my leadership that I wasn't allowed to use that word.
  19. I'm choosing not to share what my personal involvement is in this situation until I can form a coherent reply. However, some details... As far as we know, nothing physical happened.
  20. Tibbie, I think you nailed it on the head. I'm shaking right now. It it not my intention to put AHG in a negative light, as I know not all troops are this way. However, I am really struggling with what has transpired over the last week. Thank you for this
  21. Here's my issue... AHG is promoting themselves as a Christian scouting organization and all that entails. These girls were very much so making a statement with their actions and their clothing. The girl who was dressing as a boy is the camp director's daughter. One of the leaders who referred to her hat as the "pride hat" was her mother, the camp director. My particular issue is the hypocrisy that is being displayed. Either AHG is a Christian organization with specific beliefs as painstakingly outlined in their handbook, or it is not. Personally, it doesn't matter to me whether they are or they are not. We joined for different reasons. We will continue regardless of their stance. Does that make more sense? My most sincerest apologies for not being clear. It wasn't my intention to be vague or present what some thought was a hidden agenda. I've had a very rough night and am operating on little sleep (see my other "camp" post)
  22. I'm very aware of the difference between rainbows, and rainbows. Regardless, I should have been more direct in my OP. These were absolutely NOT the rainbows of Noah's Ark, some cutesy camp theme, whatever. This was...rainbows. And leaders of the camp were referring to her hat as the "pride hat". Ladies, I raised my eyebrows because given what AHG "is", and given what the message that was clearly being sent, I thought...hmmm. Interesting. NO judgment, just...huh...these two forms of belief don't jive.
  23. These are very outspoken, very comfortable, very happy 16-18 year olds who enjoyed their time there. I would imagine if a girl that age did not want to be at that kind of camp they would not be eagerly, actively involved. And yes, AHG is a conservative Christian alternative to Girl Scouts that is indeed "intended" to be free of secularism, feminism, or any criticism of patriotism. Not all who join for that reason, however. But that is besides the point.
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