I’m way behind on the other thread because I like to finish reading before replying and I haven’t been online enough to keep up, so I haven’t replied there yet, but I’m most of the way through it. What keeps coming to my mind there as on this thread, is that I think by and large, there’s a huge chasm between what people are afraid is being taught in the schools and what actually is. It appears there are some stories of places where this has been very poorly implemented (no big surprise), and otherwise it’s a lot of people pearl clutching about how damaging it will be to their kids to be talked to about race in school. It seems to me a large portion of those who say they are so worried about CRT being taught in schools actually don’t want race addressed at all. When they say they don’t want certain racially charged topics addressed, they are in essence saying they think of their “white” version of history to be the default and that teaching anything else is going off script on some way.

But what do YOU mean or understand CRT to be about? I keep seeing people saying how concerning it is, with links to why other people say it’s concerning, but without saying anything themself about what they believe it means or why it is specifically problematic. You have at least shared a reason, but not enough for me to understand what it is about it that you are concerned about, other than that Marx introduced an idea of critical theory, so CRT must be bad?

Mostly I’m not seeing people who are upset about it define it at all. The main thing I keep hearing is that they’re going to “teach whites kids to feel guilty for being white.” So I’m wondering @Fritz, since you’ve brought race up many times on many threads and started this one, how do you define critical race theory?

Thought of this thread when I saw this tonight: Anti-vax doctor mocked for claiming that shots will ‘magnetize’ people Followed by:

Last I heard, it was 4 to 5 days after exposure. If symptomatic, now’s a good time to test.

There actually is one approved by the FDA, but once I actually read about it, it didn’t sound as helpful as I had hoped. I don’t have time to read about it again right now, but I seem to recall it hadn’t been tested very far out from the participants infection, so it’s hard to know how long it actually is reliable for. If there was one that was accurate, I would want to take it. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-adaptive-biotechnologies-t-detect-covid-test

She’s from the US, right? One thing that’s been knocking around in my head when I read this thread is that it seems like she’s talking from a place as if she is Black (I know Australia uses that term differently, but in the US, that is not used for Indian people). It’s interesting to me because it has been making me wonder if the experience of Indian Americans is overall quite different in other parts of the country than it is where I am and in the places I’m familiar with. Where I live, the demographics for people of Indian descent and those of African descent are very different, and the kind of racism that each might experience are different. Speaking in generalities, Indian Americans here are of a higher SES than the general public and not a group that has experienced the same kind of systemic racism that Black Americans have. There can be other kinds of racism, I’m just saying they are different, and her words made me think I was reading the words of a Black American, not an Indian American. I’ve only read it though, so perhaps her actual speech gave background that would have put that in context for me. I also differ in my opinions about a university having to support any and every kind of speech, even if they invited them. I don’t think every single person who wants to speak somewhere is owed the right to do so. I do think an exchange of lots of different view points is important, but if someone wants to come speak on campus about why we should kill gay people, I don’t think the university is at all obligated to invite them to do so. Not every viewpoint is exactly equal. And if they do invite someone to speak, and the person says things they didn’t expect (like that gay people should be killed), I think it’s well within their rights to say, “Just so you know, we don’t at all support what this speaker said.”

Every time I read one of these, I’m blown away by how well these vaccines are working: ”Of the 2154 SARS-CoV-2 infections during the study period, 2139 (99.3%) occurred among those not previously infected who remained unvaccinated or were waiting to get vaccinated, and15 (0.7%) occurred among those not previously infected who were vaccinated.” !!

I’m sure someone will do much better, but the super, super brief version is that some people think that teaching kids that minorities in this country, particularly Black Americans, have faced systematic oppression and racism (and continue to) will make the white kids feel bad, so it shouldn’t be taught.

I think Yale’s response makes clear these are this individual’s views and don’t represent Yale in any way. I find the violence she speaks of repugnant as well. I see that racist white folks are loving this story right now, though. This plays right into their narrative, which is why I wouldn’t personally help them out by amplifying it. The issue du jour seems to be the evils of critical race theory and how schools are teaching kids to feel guilty for being white. I’m wondering which talk shows hosts have been promoting this. I have had two people in the past two weeks respond to hearing that we homeschool by saying they would have/will do the same thing because they don’t want their kids being taught all that race theory stuff “and that they should feel guilty for being white”. So, those folks are going to love this story, even though this particular woman only represents her own opinions.

I had a heart murmur as a teen that later went away. No issues whatsoever. My understanding is it’s not uncommon in teen girls. It’s good to have an echo to make sure, though.

No, they is totally the right word! It just jumped out at me as funny given your other thread. Weird sense of humor, I guess 🤷‍♀️. My 15yo had the second dose with nothing except a mildly sore arm. Same as for first.

The Australian Gold mineral facial sunscreen is tinted to counteract the typical white sheen and works well. My dh was initially skeptical about the tint, but he wears it happily now. I use the Elta mineral sunscreen right now (we only use physical sunscreens here), and it is similarly tinted.

Nm. Got it sorted I think.

I really like the way Claire Weekes explains and helps people with anxiety issues. This site has a good explanation: https://www.anxietycoach.com/anxietytrick.html You can get some podcasts of Claire Weekes explaining this as well. She has a calming voice, too.

Have you talked through how the anxiety response works? She seems old enough that she could understand and it would be helpful. It was very helpful for my previously very needle phobic child. Once she understood what was happening in her body to cause that feeling, and gave herself permission to just feel the anxiety and accept it as a chemical feeling that would pass, it helped a lot. She had a few shots after that where she had the same Vasovagal reaction, but with each one, she got better about just knowing that was going to happen and it was okay and her anxiety the next time was a little lower. She had a flu shot at a drive through last winter and she didn’t have a vasovagal reaction to that. When it came time for the Covid shot this year, she was so excited to get it, she actually didn’t have any issue at all.

Thank you for this. I have wanted one of these forever, but could never bite the bullet to spend the money, and always worried about the reviews about the battery and such. We ended up being given one as a gift, and it has changed my vacuuming life!! I definitely regret not having gotten one long ago. Although, maybe the older ones weren’t as good. I never knew this about the filters, though. I empty the collection cup every time I use it (and I can’t believe how much it picks up, even from carpets!), but I didn’t know there were filters in there. This is the one drawback to me as well. I actually don’t mind that it comes on and off, as it seems like that conserves battery, but the location of it makes it almost impossible to not accidentally pull the trigger when I’m carrying it around. I also do find it tiring for my hand, but hand strength is an issue for me.

This is an issue of particular concern to me, in all realms with young people, whether it be sexuality, gender, or Covid restrictions, due in particular to the high suggestibility of suicidality, particularly in young people. I think we are literally making this generation of kids increasingly suicidal by telling them just how suicidal they are and all the good reasons they have to be so. I hear those things quoted back to me by my kids, and suicide seems to be no big thing to them—a natural reaction to something difficult in life. I find that really dangerous and scary. I think there was actually a safety benefit in suicide being more taboo. I’m glad for kids to be able to know how to get help if they feel that way, but I wish they weren’t always being bombarded with the idea that it’s unsurprising they feel that way due to x,y,z.

Do you have a drive up clinic available? Anticipatory anxiety is often the worse part with a phobia like this. It may be that if you can just drive up and say, okay, in two minutes we’ll be driving away and you’ll be done and then just do it while you talk to her and distract her. The more anticipation, the worse it is. A lollipop or other candy she can have immediately to get blood sugar up (and distract) can be helpful after if part of her problem is feeling faint after.

I don’t think that’s fair. People are sharing various anecdotes about their own kids. I think all are valid, with the understanding that they are anecdotes. This isn’t a simple issue with black and white answers. There’s potential for harm in any direction, and from what I’ve seen here, all of the parents here with trans kids are supporting their kids and trying to do the best they can for them.

I think that’s because there is wrong that is wrong (stealing, murdering, assaulting) and there is “wrong” that is part of a moral code that can change with greater understanding. It’s easy to think something is arbitrarily wrong when you’re not actually acquainted with it and it has no bearing on your life. Then when confronted with it, you can see it more clearly and your view might naturally change. Some people think interracial marriage is wrong. If they change their mind because they meet an interracial couple, that’s not them throwing their moral code out, it’s them realizing they were wrong and didn’t really understand the thing. Through all this “love the sinner hate the sin” discussion, I think it’s the very fact that being gay is considered a grave sin that makes it almost impossible for the person to truly feel loved. It’s simply not the same at all as comparing it to them having committed a crime or other moral evil against someone, and when people compare it to that, it just makes it worse for the person who is gay. I keep thinking of interracial marriage as the best analogy I can come up with. If you are white and marry a person of color and your parents believe the Bible tells them clearly that people of different races should not intermarry. It’s unlikely to be much comfort that your parents say they still love you deeply “despite” the fact that you are committing the grave sin of being married to a person of color. By rejecting the most important, precious thing in your life (your marriage), they might as well be rejecting you.

That’s part of the logic that brought me to the place of thinking gay marriage should be accepted. Let them get married and that’s no longer true. I believe the negative statements about homosexual acts in the Bible are because at that time, it was associated with prostitution and promiscuity. They are very similar to statements about other kinds of fornication. There was no concept of committed gay marriage. I always wonder if people would have an issue with gay marriage if the couple pledges to be celibate. The Biblical objections I’ve heard are all based on the sex being the wrong thing about it. Some gay people are asexual. Would it be different for them to marry?

I agree this can be true. My kid with ASD takes whatever is being said on autism tik toks as gospel truth and woe betide if I suggest there might be other valid opinions.

I don’t know anyone who has lost sight of that. That’s the very reason for having people who can still be infected with the virus mask so they don’t spread it.

That seems to be a matter of opinion. My nonbinary person identifies as transgender, but is aware some people think they don’t “count”. It seems to me more common than not for nb people to consider themself transgender. eta: Also, the transgender pride flag’s white stripe represents those who are either questioning or non-binary.