AbcdeDooDah Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 We are making memory cards in my co-op history class. Each kid will get a ring and we will add 2 cards each week. I plan on laminating them and adding to a ring in class right after they make them. I want them rings to be nat and have the cards lined up. If I punch them all beforehand to make sure all the holes are the same, I will have to punch them again after lamination but there will be guide since it's already punched. I can punch them after lamination, too, using a punched card as a guide. I just want them uniform. Is there something obvious I am missing? Or is it obvious I am overthinking it? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyroo Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Could you use one of the holes in a three hole punch? Maybe? The holes would not be right in the corner, but they could be punched quickly and consistently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Purchase prepunched index cards? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I would pre-punch them in stacks, using an already punched card for a guide for each of the rest of the stacks. Or, if I wasn't sure, I'd use a pin to go through a few cards at a time and just mark a small hole in each of the cards to use as a guide to punch later. Definitely would use a piece of cardboard under the cards if I did this, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbcdeDooDah Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, wendyroo said: Could you use one of the holes in a three hole punch? Maybe? The holes would not be right in the corner, but they could be punched quickly and consistently. Good idea. I will experiment. 13 minutes ago, Pen said: Purchase prepunched index cards? I have tons of cards already but that is an option if I don't like how they turn out. Until the morning while looking for the rings on Amazon, I didn't even know that was a thing.😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, AbcdeDooDah said: Is there something obvious I am missing? Or is it obvious I am overthinking it? 😂 I think it might be better to have it be much less elaborate — and a system the kids can learn to do for themselves easily that would carry through college if they go to college. I think for the kids to learn how to make their own cards and system might be move valuable than for them to learn any particular history fact on a card system you make up useful and easy should be goal, not perfect and uniform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Also unpunched and in an envelope or box may better serve spaced repetition learning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domestic_engineer Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AbcdeDooDah said: I just want them uniform. Is there something obvious I am missing? Or is it obvious I am overthinking it? 😂 have you pondered how you're going to keep the laminated margin even? Are you going to round the corners (they'll be sharp otherwise)? If so, how will you do that uniformly? (I've personally run into these issues in my homeschooling journey). For a uniform hole location, you could preprint a dot on the card where you want it to be punched after lamination. Or are you planning on punching a hole in the laminated margin? Won't this take a lot of class time? Why do they need to be laminated? do they need to last that long? What about unlaminated but with hole reinforcers that you can sticker on? Can you use page protectors instead (probably more expensive, but it'd be faster and ensure uniformity). EDIT: What size are you making these cards? if the kids won't be writing much on them, what about making them baseball cards and then putting them (unlaminated) in a baseball card sheet protector and then putting that in a 3 ring binder. That's what our co-op history teacher did last year. Overthinking?!?! I don't know what that is. hahahaha. Edited September 20, 2019 by domestic_engineer I thought of another idea. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domestic_engineer Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pen said: Also unpunched and in an envelope or box may better serve spaced repetition learning I love your ideas, but a box/envelope has proven disastrous for our family when the box gets dropped. Thus we've switched to a binder format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, domestic_engineer said: I love your ideas, but a box/envelope has proven disastrous for our family when the box gets dropped. Thus we've switched to a binder format. Acco clips and or sturdy rubber bands can help keep cards grouped together If we need to transport cards we usually use rubber bands. it obviously depends on circumstances. Now and expected in future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbcdeDooDah Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, domestic_engineer said: have you pondered how you're going to keep the laminated margin even? Are you going to round the corners (they'll be sharp otherwise)? If so, how will you do that uniformly? (I've personally run into these issues in my homeschooling journey). For a uniform hole location, you could preprint a dot on the card where you want it to be punched after lamination. Or are you planning on punching a hole in the laminated margin? Won't this take a lot of class time? Why do they need to be laminated? do they need to last that long? What about unlaminated but with hole reinforcers that you can sticker on? Can you use page protectors instead (probably more expensive, but it'd be faster and ensure uniformity). EDIT: What size are you making these cards? if the kids won't be writing much on them, what about making them baseball cards and then putting them (unlaminated) in a baseball card sheet protector and then putting that in a 3 ring binder. That's what our co-op history teacher did last year. Overthinking?!?! I don't know what that is. hahahaha. If they're punched already, the kids write their facts and my aide can laminate them. I guess they don't have to be laminated. It's my first year and I have a bit of overplanning going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'm a vote for don't laminate unless it really needs to last forever. When they eventually get rid of them, the cards could be recycled if not laminated. I think you could have reinforcements available but they won't be needed on every card. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, AbcdeDooDah said: If they're punched already, the kids write their facts and my aide can laminate them. I guess they don't have to be laminated. It's my first year and I have a bit of overplanning going on. If you have the same things going to be written on all the students’ cards, then each fact card in the set can be numbered. If any individual card gets ruined or lost, a child can recopy it from a Master set—and the copying itself is added memory help. If someone drops a whole set in a mud puddle, maybe the whole class can help to make that child a new set if the amount at that point would be daunting—or maybe the Aide could help. I suggest reading: Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674729013/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vHoHDb5GCK3AA And maybe: Learning to Learn: Strengthening... https://www.amazon.com/dp/0865306079?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share Before deciding to go with a ring bound laminated card system 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 My kids have not needed lamination for their cards since we don’t expect them to last longer than a year. We use the normal hole puncher and align the card edge to the same edge. It’s a pain to punch holes through thick index cards so I would buy prepunched if my kids want to use index cards again for vocabulary flash cards. I would also opt for two hole punched cards versus one hole. It was hard to flip for my kids with one hole punch. e.g. https://www.amazon.com/Bundle-Punched-Refills-AdvantageOP-Retractable/dp/B0771LQLH6/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 As a person who actively uses index cards for lots of things, I don’t think they can be used too well on a ring. A zipper bag or box is so much better for storage and when they’re not attached you can USE them easier. Unlaminated cards last a really long time, so I’d skip this step. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Skip the lamination if you must use rings, have the cards predrilled all at once at a print shop. They will not charge much. We are big index card users here. Honestly, I would ask everyone to buy and use one of these: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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