TNMOMx2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I want to introduce Dickens to 8th graders. Has anyone done so? Would "Great Expectations" be too much too soon? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't think it would be too much, but if it wasn't my own kid I'd be inclined to do A Christmas Carol instead. They already know the story and can focus on the writing style. Then I would add a second book if there was time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica_in_Switzerland Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't think it would be too much, but if it wasn't my own kid I'd be inclined to do A Christmas Carol instead. They already know the story and can focus on the writing style. Then I would add a second book if there was time. We also did A Christmas Story (56h, 3rd, K, pre-k) this winter with great success. We listened, watched the Mickey Mouse version, etc. There were multiple parts of the book where we LOL'd, so I'm glad the kids were not too intimidated by the heavy writing style. We'll do it again next winter and add in another movie adaptation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The first Dickens introduction we did was watching Oliver! - though we also did A Christmas Carol as a read aloud relatively young. I think this depends on the kids. But Christmas Carol is short and they likely already know the story, so that's a plus. But for 8th graders who are engaged and motivated, I don't think you have to start with that. Most Dickens is pretty readable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbel Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 My kids had known some of the stories from a young age, via Charles Dickens and Friends: Five Lively Retellings by Marcia Williams. It was a fun book to introduce the stories and some of the characters. I'm not sure, 'cause it's been a while, but I might even hand it off to an 8th grader just for fun. I'm not sure when we started reading A Christmas Carol but that was a constant at Christmas for years, then did Oliver, also as a readaloud, in middle school I think. Bleak House was one of our last family readalouds, when they were in high school. Now that I'm thinking of it, I'm not actually sure if either of them has gone on to read any Dickens on their own... If you/your kids like audiobooks, I have enjoyed both Simon Prebble and Simon Vance as narrators (from my library via Overdrive and Hoopla). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrymum Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I liked oliver twist or David Copperfield to introduce Dickins. The main characters are lovable and there isn't too much side plot... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelle Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I love Dickens, but I never could get my students interested although one of them loves to read. I agree with PP about David Copperfield. I like that one. Also A Christmas Carol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNMOMx2 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thank you all for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) A Christmas Carol is in the 8th grade program for Lightning Lit., and I agree with the program's choice that this Dickens' work is a good fit for that age. It is shorter, and already familiar so students can focus on struggling through/appreciating the lovely and complex Victorian language and dense descriptive writing style of Dickens -- plus learning how to look a little deeper through some beginning literary analysis. (Huge bonus is the ability to watch The Muppet Christmas Carol movie version, which uses chunks of the writing straight from the book — not to mention: muppets! :laugh: ) Two other Christmas-based works by Dickens that are shorter like A Christmas Carol (48 pages) are The Chimes (51 pages) and Cricket on the Hearth (53 pages) — though Christmas Carol is by far the best of the three. Dickens also wrote a number of short stories, so you might start by "dipping a toe" into his works that way. The Signalman may be his most famous short story. It's a ghost story, so lots to discuss as to how he builds suspense. The Magic Fishbone is Dickens' original fairytale, written with a lot of humor, and very short. Here are links to other Dickens short stories and novellas. Oliver Twist (267 pages) is a much longer work (a novel), but a good one as an early Dickens exposure — very distinctive characters, and the storyline is not difficult to follow. Also several good movie versions to help out. David Copperfield (578 pages) is great -- but llloooonnnngggg, at almost twice the length of Oliver Twist. As long as you leave plenty of time to get through the whole work, and you have students who don't burn out with longer works, this is a good one, with meaty themes — and a great movie version as support. :) A Tale of Two Cities (227 pages) is one of the shorter (relatively speaking, lol) novels, but probably better for high school in order to already have some familiarity with the historical times/events of the French Revolution, and to mature in reading level -- the first 8-10 chapters were stiff going here, even doing it with high schoolers. JMO, but Great Expectations (298 pages), while not among the longest, is one of Dickens' saddest and most mature works. It was written late in his life, when his own "expectations" for what he wanted to do in his life had not been met, and he realized would not happen. That is definitely reflected in the tone of the work, the choices of the character, and the ending of the book. Pretty mature stuff for your first Dickens, and you are a middle schooler with your whole life before you... ;) Edited March 22, 2018 by Lori D. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezyone Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't think Great Expectations is too much for an eighth grader at all. My DD's regular 7th grade class read A Christmas Carol this past fall and, if I recall correctly, my honors English class read A Tale of Two Cities in 8th grade. They're great reads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet2ndchance Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I remember reading Great Expectations in public school 9th grade English class back in the early 90s, for what it's worth. It was regular A-level English class, not Honors, AP or remedial. if that gives any perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeachyDoodle Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On a personal level, I would vote for Oliver Twist or A Tale of Two Cities; I love Dickens, but Great Expectations is not one of my favorites. Agreeing that for a group I might start with A Christmas Carol -- especially if I wasn't sure of previous exposure to literature. But my dd12 read both OT and AToTC this year, and didn't really struggle with them. She really enjoyed AToTC! (She's been studying and very much into the French Revolution, however.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Dd made me watch about 60 hours of BBC Dickens in a six week period the year before last. Dickens Saturation Syndrome is a thing. :zombie: I'm a bit surprised by the recommendations to start with David Copperfield. Maybe it isn't so intense without the visuals. Dd (who was never much of a crier back then) had tears pouring down her face, but she didn't want to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNMOMx2 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Oh my goodness Ladies - this has been FABULOUS! Thank you all for your time and expertise in this area! I can't wait to do Lit this Fall!!!! Blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadsandLilysMom Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I will add one more “must watch†to any study of Dickens. The movie The Man Who Invented Christmas did a wonderful job of bringing Dickens to life for my girls. We all thoroughly enjoyed the movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbk mama Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I love Dickens - nearly every one. PP was my least favorite. I think Our Mutual Friend was maybe the most fun read (and there is a decent BBC movie version). I remember reading ATOTC in high school and not loving it at the time, but I was unaware of the relevant history. DH was forced to read Great Expectations in 8th grade and detested it so much that hearing "Dickens" makes him nauseas. I feel the timing is sensitive - you need to gauge your student's interest/readiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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