MarkW Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I hate Christmas shopping. I hate it! I hate it! There! I said it! I hate going to the mall. I can't go to the mall. I have 4 kids. Actually 5, but one of them is at school during the day. I hate doing it on line. I don't know what my kids like to do. Isn't that strange? Right now, they are waiting for me to get off the iPad and get on with school and all 4 are playing some little game they made up. Which is great! But how can I buy that on Amazon? I finally got the boys bought for, now it's just my little girls! Sigh! And time is fleeting. I've got to get this done, soon! Now try this but also add having to shop for your spouse while also needing your spouse to drive you everywhere and anywhere because you're not allowed to drive: AAAUUUUGGGGHHH!!!!! At least we get an "extra" pay check this month because there's 5 Thursdays in December this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Other replies were assault and battery :glare:, probably not drugs :lol: and defacing school property. :leaving: *sigh* Misreading again. I saw "defecating".... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professormom Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: FTR, I should be the one planning your field trips, because I always provide detailed information with the initial field trip sign-ups and would never, ever send an e-mail at the last minute. ::thinks uncharitable thoughts about the coordinator mom:: Ellie needs to plan a field trip for ITT... Maybe to Tahiti? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I had not heard this term, although I have heard of the definition. ETA: Booya on metrose.... Metrosexual has more or less been collapsed into the greater "hipster" genre, both of which are.. ehh.. overhyped. Dress how you wanna dress. Be how you wanna be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professormom Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 One cup peanut butter, one cup white sugar, one egg. 350 for 8 minutes. Booya. I am so going to try this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I got bored with school and spent the better part of an hour putting my main character, the antagonist and two supporting characters through short personality tests. I now know why the main character feels like (and sometimes does) blow up doors around the antagonist, and the antagonist secretly plots to ship the main character away from the story in a fireproof box. So apparently I selected appropriately for conflict, now I just need to find some means for resolution. It's a good thing the house cats are supervising the education of the children. The kitten is making sure one reads history, the old cat is making sure that the other boy does his geography. Our old cat is making sure we get some adrenaline going -- she's lying beneath our tree on the upstairs landing and batting at people as they come up the stairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 *sigh* Misreading again. I saw "defecating".... :rofl: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 My Contribution: You're welcome. I do love Sandra Boynton's work! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Lynn, thanks. :) My life is super easy now. Good hubby, good kids, and we're poor so I don't have to worry about balancing the checkbook. ;) We're less poor every year though. Jean, what readers? I think I want the pathway ones. I had originally planned on Muguffey, but I hear bad things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I do love Sandra Boynton's work! Mostly I'm jealous that she won a creative lottery and was successful with admittedly cute, but not especially difficult art. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professormom Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) I did a mix of phonics and sight words. We played a lot of phonics games like "I spy something that starts with (b sound)" at the mall. I started with Bob books and then got some phonetic readers from the library (by Modern Curriculum press). Easy peasy. And cheap. Same here. Plus OPGTTR. And a sight word game from Sonlight. I did use some OG stuff because ds11 has dyslexic tendencies. And I read TWRtR which was very important in my ability to teach. Edited December 15, 2015 by Professormom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have taken the uncivilized supermodel dog to get her nails trimmed and received advice on the matting on her hindquarters. It's like taking the kids to the dentist. Everything is my fault and I'm always failing someone. So we got home and I dutifully tried to brush her hindquarters while she stuck her big head and in the way and bit at me and the brush. (Not really biting but trying to discourage my actions.) She does not want people all up in her hind end. So I got some fur off and gave up. Hornblower would not have been proud. :leaving: Now I will make myself brush the vents in the ceiling and vacuum up the dust balls that fall down. A rockin' life I have, I tell you. Can you get the groomers to shave it there? I had a roommate once who adopted a very sweet and gentlemanly stray cat that we took to calling Thomas. This was in Colorado in February, and she took him in to the vet to get checked out. He was a long-haired cat, and his sides were so matted they were like two plates of armor. The vet ended up shaving the mats off (had no further luck than us in getting any combed out), so Babs bought a little striped doggy sweater for him to wear when he would go outside. He hated being cooped up inside, but hated that sweater even more. He gave us the most expressive dirty looks to register his disapproval. He was a great cat, and quite the ladies' man, even after certain plumbing was interfered with. He would serenade the girl cats upstairs, and would flat insist that Babs and I go outside everyday -- escorting us to make sure we went. We could sit on the grass and he'd frolic around, but if we headed back to go inside he'd block our path and let us know it wasn't long enough. He made sure we got at least 30 minutes whenever he did this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Ellie, my kids sing that song except they insert my name. :lol: We own and have watched the entire Dick Van Dyke series with the kids. Also, Leave it to Beaver and Andy Griffith. What a great idea!!! Oh, kiiiids.... I would love to find Bewitched, Mr. Ed, Gilligan's Island, and I Dream of Jeannie, too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I am down to my last dry-erase marker. A boy I know has used them all up drawing hydroelectric power plants on the dry-erase board in his free time. DH and the girls gave me a How to Draw Chibis book for my birthday. Now DD14 is drawing Chibis on my easel whiteboard whenever I don't have it full of school stuff. I've declared a rule: Any chibi drawn MUST have its picture taken before anyone touches the board. She is really capturing her family quite well! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I am so going to try this. Use good peanut butter. Moms like you choose Jif. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Same here. Plus OPGTTR. And a sight word game from Sonlight. I did use some OG stuff because ds11 has dyslexic tendencies. And I read TWRtR which was very important in my ability to teach. We do the eye spy thing with "starts with" identifiers, too. And she did "star words" in school which are sight words, mostly articles and other very common "constructor" type words. Everything else though, we're still working on, but have been too busy to really dig into yet. I really don't feel like she's behind but my wife gets more and more nervous about it, I guess measuring Izzy against her own reckoning of where her former classmates probably are by now. Even if she IS behind them, she'll be ahead of them in six months, so I'm not sweating it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What a great idea!!! Oh, kiiiids.... I would love to find Bewitched, Mr. Ed, Gilligan's Island, and I Dream of Jeannie, too! You can find a lot of old shows on Hulu. I haven't looked for those yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 LOL, I'm always proud when people don't torment dogs & respect their space & feelings. So there! I have a sort of solution for you. Bear - sweet silly old dearly departed Bear - had a wrecked coat on his hindquarters. (Partly it was what is called 'yak coat' in newfie circles & partly he had huge scarring on his skin from road rash - suspect being hit by car at some point in his life, & his fur grew weird there) & sweet as he was, he really was quite sensitive about certain parts of his body. The tools that help you get a matted/coarse & just plain annoying butt on a dog cleaned up are: Coat King combs (the original from Germany). Probably a 10 blade like this (steel yourself, they're expensive) & The Stuff. Yes, it's called The Stuff. (or some other silicone based spray. They're often called things like show shine, diamond shine etc. Silicone will make the hair nice & slippery & will stop matts from forming & will help loose fur fall out. Purists will tell you they're not good for coat long term yada yada yada but it's really ok...) You don't need to use them at the same time. I'd spray the butt well just before a walk for ex (or better yet, do it outside. It has silicone in it & can make floors wicked slippery) & just rub in with your hands, feed cookies & go out. The Coat King combs work like a breeze. They are sharp on the inside of the curve, like little sickles. They will cut matts and knots & therefore do not pull as much. A couple strokes at a time, hold the skin with your other hand so you're not pulling too hard, big cookie and call it done. Next day, do it again. Lots of quick little repetitions w/ lots of rewards spaced out over days & weeks, not a big job once a week or every couple weeks, kwim? It's like spelling LOL Oh that reminds me - I once got carried away with the Coat King & gave Bear a bit of an almost bald spot on his flank. Ooooppps. I might have to look for these as Christmas presents for my ILs. They have a St. Charles spaniel, a toy poodle, and a Southern black-face cur (that is what the breed is actually called and not a slur). The cur has a short coat that is manageable, but the spaniel and poodle's coats get rather ratty at times. They visit the groomers a bit more frequently than the ILs' budget would like, but they live on 5 acres with a horse, so it becomes rather necessary to keep the hair short. Maybe this stuff would help spread out groomer visits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Use good peanut butter. Moms like you choose Jif. Jif is kinda salty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Jif is kinda salty. Jif Natural is the closest I think you can get to good peanut butter that you haven't got to stir. I prefer the stirring-required kind, personally, but I'm outnumbered in my house. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Jif is kinda salty. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professormom Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Use good peanut butter. Moms like you choose Jif. :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I just watched the flashmob thingy they did for him My kids watched almost all of the Dick Van Dyke show too. We used to use a dvd rental thing & it was on our regular subscription. I had to share that with the girls. They were thrilled and so was I! Thanks for sharing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 See, while Queen Ellie is Spaldinging your children, you should come to my house and Konmari. We have all the good snacks here. Note to self: "SP-alding", not "B-alding".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I love cleaning other people's houses. I probably need therapy. I actually have an easier time tidying and cleaning living spaces that aren't my own. It's because there are limits -- limits to what is expected of you in the time allowed, limits to where you will go and look (much of the time, at least), and limits to what you feel you can presuppose is okay for you to do. With my own home EVERYTHING is my responsibility and I get overwhelmed by it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I am editing. I wish the publishers of our town's little newsletter would do the same. I came upon one piece in the latest quarterly newsletter that was actually well written. Proper grammar, good sentence structure, logical flow. Spell-check actually used or not needed. Proper use of punctuation. It was the BEST-written piece I've seen in ANY local publication in YEARS. It was written by -- the town's high school intern. DH says I should write city hall a letter praising the girl for her quality writing and be quite vocal about how it beats the pants off of the writing of our newsletter regulars. Who, of course, are all local bigwigs (or at least want to see themselves as such). I am tempted to do exactly this, since I'm regularly pointing out -- out loud -- the many and varied egregiosities of punctuation, spelling, grammar, and composition. I applaud people like you! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openhearted Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 <Crying> because Ellie quoted my "might skip the field trip" post and didn't comment on "we're going now" post. :hat: No, actually, we're home now, and I'm thankful for two pages of ITT posting to help lull me back to a false sense of security. For the record, I am never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, signing up for a field trip again. First of all, the information email came so late last night that I didn't get it until this morning - you know the one that tells you where it is and when it starts (even though I had emailed the host/coordinator mom two days ago asking for this information.) Secondly, (no fault of the hostess), parking was difficult. (But I did learn about a new parking system at one of the downtown garages. Tokens! Who knew? Instead of tickets. So they don't have to hire people to take your money when you leave - it's all on credit card or at a kiosk. But I didn't know that, so, yes, that was me hitting the "help" button on the ticket-thingy - former ticket-thingy, now a token-thingy - and talking to the person over the intercom "Do you see a yellow token?" "A what? Do what with my credit card? You time stamp my credit card? Really?" "You can go through now, the gate is open." "But you said to put my card in?"..... Turns out you can take a token OR put your credit card in, but you don't need to do both. Fun.) Anyway, later, you pay for your token at a kiosk right before you leave if you want to use cash. Then your "paid for" token goes in at the exit gate which opens for you. If you pay on your way out, at the gate you have to use your credit card. Did I mention how fun it was learning about the new parking system? Anyway, I digress. The email said we were to meet coordinator mom in the lobby for our tickets. When I got there, I waited and waited and waited. When she came out of the bathroom she was all like "You all didn't want to go in yet?" And I was like "Well, your email said to meet you in the lobby for tickets." And she said "Oh, you know me, did I say that?" Evidently, there are no tickets, you just go in and sit wherever they told your group to sit. Do people really live their lives like this? With no plan, or at least no plan they intend to act on? Did I mention I am never, ever, ever, ever, ever, signing up for another field trip ever, ever, ever, again? If y'all need me I'll be curled up in the fetal position, sucking my thumb, rocking back and forth, and drooling slightly. :grouphug: Lynn I am outta likes.:( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I actually have an easier time tidying and cleaning living spaces that aren't my own. It's because there are limits -- limits to what is expected of you in the time allowed, limits to where you will go and look (much of the time, at least), and limits to what you feel you can presuppose is okay for you to do. With my own home EVERYTHING is my responsibility and I get overwhelmed by it all. Speaking of limits, after requesting, talking, talking seriously, cajoling, imposing groundings, imposing temporary loss of possessions (smartphone), and etc, my oldest still cannot seem to stop leaving laundry, particularly soiled girl things, in the middle of her floor, hanging from her loft bed, and so on, despite the fact that a perfectly serviceable hamper is literally 3 feet away from her dresser and her bed. She will still drop things wherever she happens to be standing, which is usually about 12 inches from the hamper. It's infuriating. I am seriously considering just picking them up myself and hanging them from the computer monitor on her desk downstairs while she is at school such that they can be a conversation starter for the family until she gets the message. Ugh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I never understood the kilt thing. I'm not into kilts. There was a man in a kilt at the Oregon homeschool conference the last two years. Obviously a hive husband. Whenever someone noticed and laughed or something he waved. I'm sure 95% of the people there were oblivious. DH wore a kilt when he was in a friend's wedding. He has the cutest knees! I'm sold on kilts ever since! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I am seriously considering just picking them up myself and hanging them from the computer monitor on her desk downstairs while she is at school such that they can be a conversation starter for the family until she gets the message. Ugh. That would work. Quite quickly, in fact. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Must own all music by Two Steps From Hell. #crazyfantasywriter Never heard of them. Looked them up on YouTube. Oh, WOW! :bigear: :wub: :001_tt1: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm currently going nuts over Flight of the Silverbird and Empire of Angels. I'll use the Christmas medley to introduce it to the rest of the family (nuclear and extended). They'll quickly get past the name of the group! New items for my wish list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I like Driveshaft. Link to something of theirs we can hear online, please. Every googling and YouTube search I do gets me -- drive shafts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Are there a lot of lists in it I'll want to look up frequently? As in, I'll be glad it's a paperback? Driveshaft is a fictional band. You stinker! Don't get my hopes up like that! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to something of theirs we can hear online, please. Every googling and YouTube search I do gets me -- drive shafts! It's a fictional band from Lost. :lol: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I might have to look for these as Christmas presents for my ILs. They have a St. Charles spaniel, a toy poodle, and a Southern black-face cur (that is what the breed is actually called and not a slur). The cur has a short coat that is manageable, but the spaniel and poodle's coats get rather ratty at times. They visit the groomers a bit more frequently than the ILs' budget would like, but they live on 5 acres with a horse, so it becomes rather necessary to keep the hair short. Maybe this stuff would help spread out groomer visits! My dogs have never been to a groomer. I'm cheap that way...also I don't like how most groomers manhandle dogs. I did have one of my fosters shaved down by a groomer because he was matted to the skin & I was worried I'd cut him with my clippers as I don't have pro quality ones. There's exactly one groomer I trust in a city of 2.5 million people so I had to drive an hour each way to get it done LOL Your in laws would need clippers for the poodle. It's easy to do them in a little lamb cut yourself. Just put the guide combs on & do it. What's the worse that will happen? the dog will have funny hair for a bit.... The Stuff spray would help keep the coat cleaner as leaves, dirt, twigs would not stick to the fur as much, My parents have a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel - is this the same as your il's dog? My parents' girl is a pita to groom but we do use the Coat King rakes on her to think the coat a lot & tons of silicone spray so all the stuff she sweeps up on her walk falls off more easily. She matts easily behind the ears so they have to be combed out pretty much daily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So our palliative rattie died. He hung on till dd came home from her exam (which, because this board is SO in tune with my life, was on Stats. And she thinks she aced it....) and then he passed in her arms. He was the bestest sweetest boy & he had a good life & gave us much joy. it was this boy http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/534498-hamster-for-christmas/?p=6038987 I am so very sorry. He looks an absolute darling. My condolences. :angelsad2: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 👼 rip rattie. ðŸ We put the younger kids to bed and we are watching Batman with oldest. We are talking through it all and trying to explain 80s tech and culture. '80's tech and culture? Y'all are watching the wrong Batman! You need the OLD Adam West Batman, with the Kapows and Zowies and Holy pick-something-quite-improbable, Batman! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Do people really live their lives like this? With no plan, or at least no plan they intend to act on? Yes. Yes they do. Did I mention I am never, ever, ever, ever, ever, signing up for another field trip ever, ever, ever, again? If y'all need me I'll be curled up in the fetal position, sucking my thumb, rocking back and forth, and drooling slightly. The parking issue alone would have done me in. I am proud of you for actually making it all the way through the field trip! There, there, now. It's going to be OK. Here, have some nice, creamy hot chocolate and a cookie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I haven't seen Batman in 25 years! (When you have to get out a calculator to figure it out, it has been a long time.) Except I saw it in French. Before DVD players! I have no idea where my French teacher got it, but it was a lot of fun. We went through the halls saying, "Je suis Batman!" for weeks. Question: Is the movie as violent as I remember? Ds15 is interested, but I remember it being really dark... No whining about being old or it being a long time unless you are talking about the ORIGINAL TV show or watching black & white TV because there was no color TV at the time. Those grimmer late-comer Batman movies don't count! And neither does watching original Star Wars when it came out in theaters the first time. Nope, not old! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Your therapy can be cleaning my house. Well, Konmari it, then clean it. Scratch that, if you Konmari it, I wouldn't mind cleaning it. Yeah, that will work. My house is next! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I watched those too. Dd16 has just informed me she used to have the biggest crush on the chimney sweep in Mary Poppins. :D We would listen to Father knows best, Our Miss Brooks, and The Great Gildersleeve on old radio shows. We like old shows. New ones are stupid. Except Once Upon a Time, but that's different. Oooh, I got her hooked on Carol Burnett too. Love that woman, although newer compared to the other old shows. Oooo, Carol Burnett! Mom used to watch her show all of the time! I love those old shows! I wonder if Netflix has them?.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Now for today's most pressing question: will sour cream make an already tasty chicken stew even tastier? Fixing to find out. One of my primary cooking rules is the sour cream makes everything better. Even my favorite fruit dip is made with sour cream and brown sugar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So my thinking right now is that if I am nearly coughing up a lung, I should NOT be the one washing the dishes. Thoughts? #startswithso 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I've never heard of dipping fruit before. Why would you conceal the flavor of fruit? No, you should not be the one doing the dishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Are you sure it isn't one of us? (Bwahahaha) Seriously, that seems weird. They aren't being mean right? Cuz if they are... (Said in the tone of, "Why, I outta...") It's simple. Susan lets us know what she knows about these creeps, and we go make sure they will never be a problem again. Susan is OURS to stalk, not for them! ETA: I finally made it to this page and discovered my booyah. So, I'm dreaming of lots of booyahs because they make my hea-eart glow with the re-cog-ni-tion and clearer diction and cheers from everyoneinthisthreadwhoaretheonlypeoplewhoseopinionsmatteranyway, oh... Edited December 15, 2015 by AMJ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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