DawnL Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I am considering getting this for my 4th grade son. He definitely needs assistance in memorizing the multiplication tables and I want to help him as much as possible. Any ideas on addition and subtraction tables, too? My younger son is just learning this. I've tried the Timez Attacks online game but neither of my boys really like it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeterbug Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyontheFarm Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I was told it wasn't worth it. If you have the book, you have everything you need. The local tutor teaches this whole thing over one day and sends the parents home with work to keep the remedial going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umsami Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 We bought it, but didn't really like it. It doesn't cover all of the multiplication facts, and honestly I found more useful stuff for free on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushplaylearning Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 My friend had great succes with this program, and I had success with a similar program from multiplication.com. I think visual mnemonic devices work great with visual children. Memory trainers and champions across the world use similar techniques. There is something to building an exaggerated visual memory. It just sticks faster and better. I wish there was something like it for add/sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6wildhorses Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It didn't work for us. It was just confusing. We prefer chants/music. I like the CD Multiplication Mountain. I bought agility rings, and my kid would shout the answer and jump to a ring each time a problem came up. We also did this without music to practice skip counting. I've also used tossing bean bags back and forth while skip counting. Also, TimesTables (it has a pic of a tiger) and Math Fact (it's blue and has 2+2 on the picture) are good apps for drill. We also like Marble Math and Mathris (the one with a pic of billiard balls). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnL Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 I was told it wasn't worth it. If you have the book, you have everything you need. The local tutor teaches this whole thing over one day and sends the parents home with work to keep the remedial going strong. What if I don't have the book, either? Would it be worth it to buy the book, rather than the DVD? If it helps, great. If not, I don't want to waste my money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Eh... My kids enjoyed it. It gave them a boost. But the memory tricks didn't stick with them and in the end it didn't really work for us. But I get that it really, really works for some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 The book is enough if you want to try it. The DVD is not necessary. I think the whole concept is gimmicky, but my child adores it and hence it is worth it for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourisenough Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 It did not work for us. Xtramath.org is what finally got mine to mastery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyontheFarm Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I used the book and xtramath.org The book was better for my son and the website was better for my daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicia64 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 We didn't think it was worth it at all. In fact, way not-worth-it. My fourth grade boy had the same issue. We did the Times Tales booklet thing that was kind of fun. Then I moved my kids to Xtra Math which was a hit, but the best thing of all (drum roll please) was/is: http://www.arcademicskillbuilders.com/ It works. Alley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I bought it, but it didn't help much at all (though I am going to bring it out for Sylvia this week). Xtramath was much better - they also have addition, subtraction, and division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLDebbie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 For us the answer is an emphatic YES!!!!! I got just the DVD and my son who struggles with rote memorization learned his multiplication tables in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckens Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Another vote for Xtra Math. Dd6 sets a timer and is expected to work at least 20 minutes. If the lesson ends, she is expected to log out, and log back in. And I can check if she is sluffing off (as she did a few days ago). I just reset the timer for 20 minutes in that case. Xtra Math is just boring ol' math facts. It may be no frills, but it IS effective. Dd6 was resistant at first, but she has seen that she is making progress with her addition proficiency. Other things we have experienced with Xtra Math: -- Proficiency is considered to be 3 seconds or less for a math fact. Since dd6 is still learning some of her facts, I have change it to the 6s mode. She is nearing the top score of 100. At that point, I will give her the choice for Subtraction @ 6s or Addition @3s. --Once dd6 hits a score of 100, we go out for ice cream! --Your child will take an initial test for Xtra Math in the mode you assign. They may improve, but their score may also drop at first. DON'T PANIC. This is because new and harder problems are introduced to your child. After all, 6+7 is harder than 2+2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homemama Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 YES! :-) The DVD really worked great here! We watched this instead of using the book. Times Tales was worth every penny! :-) homemama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Definitely worth it here. We only used the DVD, not the book. Used it in 3rd grade, after struggling. He memorized the facts within days. We still play the printable games (dice, etc) as a refresher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamolina Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Not worth it here. My kids did not like the DVD. We use Xtra math and old fashioned flash cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnL Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 I really appreciate everyone weighing in. I will definitely be checking out Xtra Math! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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