DB in NJ Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He was a-yankin' and a-pullin' and a'pushin' and a'sweatin'! The thing wouldn't budge. I thought I was going to come right up out of the chair. I was sweating, too. He said the girl who put it on there used the wrong strength of cement :glare: I need to go back next week and have it cut off. If the permanent cap doesn't work for some reason and they need to send it back for refining, they'll have to make me another temporary. This is my front tooth, btw. So here's the issue. It hurts. Could he have damaged the tooth underneath the cap? Or do you think it's just the gum being irritated from all that pressure? I heard something crack while he was working....I sure hope it wasn't my real tooth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILiveInFlipFlops Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He was a-yankin' and a-pullin' and a'pushin' and a'sweatin'! The thing wouldn't budge. I thought I was going to come right up out of the chair. I was sweating, too. He said the girl who put it on there used the wrong strength of cement :glare: I need to go back next week and have it cut off. If the permanent cap doesn't work for some reason and they need to send it back for refining, they'll have to make me another temporary. This is my front tooth, btw. So here's the issue. It hurts. Could he have damaged the tooth underneath the cap? Or do you think it's just the gum being irritated from all that pressure? I heard something crack while he was working....I sure hope it wasn't my real tooth! I don't know, but I'm getting lightheaded just thinking about your experience today :svengo: If you're still in pain tomorrow, I'd call him and tell him that you heard a crack and are experiencing pain. It's possible (though not probable) that the post could have cracked, or (even less likely) your jaw. It's most likely that your tooth and jaw are just sore from the wrangling though. Ugh. Seriously. Lightheaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB in NJ Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm sorry! Please don't pass out on us ;) I will take your advice and see how it feels in the morning. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He was a-yankin' and a-pullin' and a'pushin' and a'sweatin'! The thing wouldn't budge. I thought I was going to come right up out of the chair. I was sweating, too. He said the girl who put it on there used the wrong strength of cement :glare: I need to go back next week and have it cut off. If the permanent cap doesn't work for some reason and they need to send it back for refining, they'll have to make me another temporary. This is my front tooth, btw. So here's the issue. It hurts. Could he have damaged the tooth underneath the cap? Or do you think it's just the gum being irritated from all that pressure? I heard something crack while he was working....I sure hope it wasn't my real tooth! Wait. Why can he cut it off next week, but not this week? Why leave you like that for a week? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB in NJ Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Wait. Why can he cut it off next week, but not this week? Why leave you like that for a week? I don't get it. Because of time in his schedule. The process is going to take much longer now. We went in thinking he'd be able to just pop it off, and if there's a problem with the permanent crown, just pop the temp back on. If he has to cut off the temp and there's a problem with the permanent one, they'll have to make a new temp because the old one will be destroyed. All of that yanking and pulling didn't damage the temporary cap at all. It's perfectly fine :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose in BC Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Well I am so sorry you had that experience. I have a dentist phobia. Really. I had a crown done three weeks ago and the temporary removed and permanent placed yesterday. I have a huge gag reflex and, of course it was the last molar. Yesterday removing the temp was very painful but at least he got it off. Sorry for your suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Wait. Why can he cut it off next week, but not this week? Why leave you like that for a week? I don't get it. That's exactly what I was thinking. Who cares about his schedule? :glare: A person who worked for him made an error and used the wrong cement, and Idiot Boy didn't realize it until he practically tore your jaw apart, so he should be skipping lunch or working late to fit you into his schedule IMMEDIATELY. Call and say it's painful and you heard a crack, and that you insist on being seen immediately. Don't tolerate being treated so poorly. (FWIW, my dentist is always the one who fits and glues the crowns, both temporary and permanent. I would be very annoyed to be passed off to an assistant!) In the meantime, if it's painful, have you tried taking Aleve for it? Advil would be my second choice, but the Aleve is better. Don't even bother with Tylenol -- it's worthless for tooth pain. (Ask me how I know. :glare:) Edited October 4, 2012 by Catwoman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Your dentist (and/or his employee) made a major error, and you are in pain, and at risk. I would INSIST on being seen immediately, and insist on complete radiographs of your jaw and the teeth involved to rule out damage to the tooth, your jaw, and any other nearby teeth. Frankly, if you have insurance or if you can afford the cash, I would go to a new dentist immediately and get all that done and have the problem fixed. Your dentist is 100% responsible to fix this NOW. His schedule is not your problem. He'll have to stay late or come in early, but he will have to fix this NOW. His malpractice insurance will have to pay to have you fixed elsewhere if he doesn't fix you himself. He doesn't want his insurance involved. He doesn't want you to go elsewhere. Make them know it is going to be fixed completely now, one place or another. I suspect the dentist will hop to fixing you 100% ASAP once he realizes that you understand his liability and expect him to make this right. Assuming you've been otherwise happy with the dentist and trust him in general (or you don't feel you have the financial option to risk having to go to another dentist and front the expense of getting it fixed). I would use the language, "I love you, Dr. Dentist, and I understand that errors happen. But, I have suffered already because of this error, and you are responsible to fix this. I expect you to make this right, and to make it right right away, and not make me suffer longer than needed. Please, make this right. Right now." I am so sorry this happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug: Hate dentistry. My Texas dentist was a great guy, tho. He used slightly warmed Jolly Ranchers to remove caps! He'd warm it, put it on your cap, then have you bite on it--hold a couple of seconds, then separate your teeth, and the cap would pop off! Tasted good, didn't hurt, and was actually kinda fun...:D Sorry yours doesn't seem to be of the same mold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjzimmer1 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 From my experience I would say it's normal. My temporary cap didn't just slip off either. They had to numb me in several places because it hurt so bad. Once they got it off, the permanent went on quickly but it was a few weeks until my jaw recovered from all the tugging/pulling/jerking they did in my mouth in the attempt to get the temporary cap off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB in NJ Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Ladies, I have absolutely no pain whatsoever this morning. I'm wondering if the cracking noise was maybe some of the cement coming loose? Who knows; all I know is it doesn't hurt today! FWIW, I do love and trust this dentist. I don't think he had the staff available yesterday to to make a new temporary cap for me if this one got destroyed. He has been wonderful and caring and kind and accommodating for many years. One time, my old permanent cap came off when I bit into a sandwich. It was a Sunday afternoon. I called the office hoping to get a number for emergencies. There wasn't one, just an option to leave voice mail, which I did. He called me back in 2 minutes. When his office is closed, the calls are forwarded to his cell phone. After hours, weekends, holidays...doesn't matter. He had me come to the office that day and he cemented the tooth back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMA Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Honestly, if you have this kind of problem, go see a specialist. An endodontist or an oral surgeon. I would not let the dentist finish this. My husband had the same problem with his cap and the endodontist noticed that there was problem and he knew exactly how to get it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJ Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I have had many a temp crown come off with difficulty. One time it flew across the room. THe last time he just drilled a tiny hole in it and it cracked and came off easily. Cutting it off sounds uglly, but he is probably going to do what mine did, just some tiny holes and that will make it crack and fall apart. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 That's exactly what I was thinking. Who cares about his schedule? :glare: A person who worked for him made an error and used the wrong cement, and Idiot Boy didn't realize it until he practically tore your jaw apart, so he should be skipping lunch or working late to fit you into his schedule IMMEDIATELY. Call and say it's painful and you heard a crack, and that you insist on being seen immediately. Don't tolerate being treated so poorly. (FWIW, my dentist is always the one who fits and glues the crowns, both temporary and permanent. I would be very annoyed to be passed off to an assistant!) In the meantime, if it's painful, have you tried taking Aleve for it? Advil would be my second choice, but the Aleve is better. Don't even bother with Tylenol -- it's worthless for tooth pain. (Ask me how I know. :glare:) :iagree::iagree::iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB in NJ Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 I have had many a temp crown come off with difficulty. One time it flew across the room. THe last time he just drilled a tiny hole in it and it cracked and came off easily. Cutting it off sounds uglly, but he is probably going to do what mine did, just some tiny holes and that will make it crack and fall apart. :grouphug: Yup! That's what he did to remove my old permanent cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 On the one hand, I feel bad that this happened to you, and glad that it isn't hurting you today. On the other hand, I kind of hate you right now, because I go in today to get my temporary crown removed, and I'll be thinking about this for the next two hours. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justLisa Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Because of time in his schedule. The process is going to take much longer now. We went in thinking he'd be able to just pop it off, and if there's a problem with the permanent crown, just pop the temp back on. If he has to cut off the temp and there's a problem with the permanent one, they'll have to make a new temp because the old one will be destroyed. All of that yanking and pulling didn't damage the temporary cap at all. It's perfectly fine :) So you tell him you have been notified that his assistant used improper material and now it is causing YOU extra time and pain and what time tomorrow should I come in? Seriously, that is ridiculous. I've had bad dental experience. I had an assistant FAR too rough while scraping away the temp material. She was even talking with the other girl about it saying something like "it's so easy when they are numb." I could tell she was being too rough. I had to get numbed becasue when they took the temp off I was feeling some pain and I'd rather be numbed. I ended up with swelling, bleeding and a mouth full of gauze for 30 minutes before they could cement the permanent crown. Even when they put the permanent on I wanted to die. It hurt all night and the next morning I called them and told them the conversation between the ladies and "I am available after 9 am when my sitter can get here." They got me right in. The dentist was surprised how horrible my gums looked. I ended up with some medicated mouth wash. ETA: And yeah I love my DENTIST too, but not all the assistants. And he'd want to know when they are not providing the quality care he expects. Good dentists can look terrible because of bad help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 On the one hand, I feel bad that this happened to you, and glad that it isn't hurting you today. On the other hand, I kind of hate you right now, because I go in today to get my temporary crown removed, and I'll be thinking about this for the next two hours. ;) If it makes you feel any better, I had a new crown done recently, and it didn't hurt a bit when the dentist removed the temporary! :001_smile: I hope you have the same experience I had!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 If it makes you feel any better, I had a new crown done recently, and it didn't hurt a bit when the dentist removed the temporary! :001_smile: I hope you have the same experience I had!!! It wasn't as bad as the OP, but it WAS stuck, and the assistant had to call in the dentist! He went ahead and numbed me up a bit; it took a while but he did get it off and the new crown on. //phew// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILiveInFlipFlops Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Ladies, I have absolutely no pain whatsoever this morning. I'm wondering if the cracking noise was maybe some of the cement coming loose? Who knows; all I know is it doesn't hurt today! FWIW, I do love and trust this dentist. I don't think he had the staff available yesterday to to make a new temporary cap for me if this one got destroyed. He has been wonderful and caring and kind and accommodating for many years. One time, my old permanent cap came off when I bit into a sandwich. It was a Sunday afternoon. I called the office hoping to get a number for emergencies. There wasn't one, just an option to leave voice mail, which I did. He called me back in 2 minutes. When his office is closed, the calls are forwarded to his cell phone. After hours, weekends, holidays...doesn't matter. He had me come to the office that day and he cemented the tooth back in. Well, that is really good news! I'm glad that it's not a big problem, and sorry that you had to go through what you did yesterday (which I should have said last night, but was just so squicked by the whole idea of the tugging and pulling! *shudder*). FWIW, I don't think I'd be too up in arms with the dentist either, though I can understand why others would be. I love and trust my dentist too, so I'd be fine with waiting a bit as long as I wasn't in pain or sweating through the interval with anxiety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 On the one hand, I feel bad that this happened to you, and glad that it isn't hurting you today. On the other hand, I kind of hate you right now, because I go in today to get my temporary crown removed, and I'll be thinking about this for the next two hours. ;) :iagree: I read this 30 minutes before going to the dentist to get a post, core and temporary crown. It had to be cemented because I will be holding off on the permanent crown till January because of insurance purposes. I asked him a lot more questions after reading your post ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflections Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug: Hate dentistry. My Texas dentist was a great guy, tho. He used slightly warmed Jolly Ranchers to remove caps! He'd warm it, put it on your cap, then have you bite on it--hold a couple of seconds, then separate your teeth, and the cap would pop off! Tasted good, didn't hurt, and was actually kinda fun...:D Sorry yours doesn't seem to be of the same mold... :lol::lol::lol: I did this to myself!!!! And the dentist laughed at/with me!! I totally avoid any and all hard candy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justLisa Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug: Hate dentistry. My Texas dentist was a great guy, tho. He used slightly warmed Jolly Ranchers to remove caps! He'd warm it, put it on your cap, then have you bite on it--hold a couple of seconds, then separate your teeth, and the cap would pop off! Tasted good, didn't hurt, and was actually kinda fun...:D Sorry yours doesn't seem to be of the same mold... Ok this makes me feel better. I thought my dentist was a nut for doing this but I guess he's not the only one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 10/3/2012 at 11:46 PM, StephanieZ said: Your dentist (and/or his employee) made a major error, and you are in pain, and at risk. I would INSIST on being seen immediately, and insist on complete radiographs of your jaw and the teeth involved to rule out damage to the tooth, your jaw, and any other nearby teeth. Frankly, if you have insurance or if you can afford the cash, I would go to a new dentist immediately and get all that done and have the problem fixed. Your dentist is 100% responsible to fix this NOW. His schedule is not your problem. He'll have to stay late or come in early, but he will have to fix this NOW. His malpractice insurance will have to pay to have you fixed elsewhere if he doesn't fix you himself. He doesn't want his insurance involved. He doesn't want you to go elsewhere. Make them know it is going to be fixed completely now, one place or another. I suspect the dentist will hop to fixing you 100% ASAP once he realizes that you understand his liability and expect him to make this right. Assuming you've been otherwise happy with the dentist and trust him in general (or you don't feel you have the financial option to risk having to go to another dentist and front the expense of getting it fixed). I would use the language, "I love you, Dr. Dentist, and I understand that errors happen. But, I have suffered already because of this error, and you are responsible to fix this. I expect you to make this right, and to make it right right away, and not make me suffer longer than needed. Please, make this right. Right now." I am so sorry this happened! This person that wrote this nonsense isn’t a Dentist & just to throw it out there … he wouldn’t have left you leave that same day if something was truely wrong . Dont listen to this nonsense. You approaching him that way will make things more awkward. Unfortunately sorry to hear that you’re in pain right after the treatment was done . Secondly if it was cracked you would have pain none stop up to an 8 and above .. that even taking medication wouldn’t help . Im no dentist but im an assistant and I see this happen every day . Don’t be alarm this isn’t rare that it happen to you and it happens almost 50% on patients. Yes it’s his responsibility as a doctor to make you feel better he is 100% Certified not like any of these people on here that don’t have any degree of this branch . Please be patient with the doctor & wish best of luck !! Feel better hun ♥️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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