happycc Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 now that ALL will not be available..... I have 4th graders doing FLL 3 right now..next year FLL 4 they will be in 5th grade..... then what for 6th grade? Those of you who have received your R and Staff, Hake, GWG, VIE....verdicts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmMusa Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 now that ALL will not be available..... I have 4th graders doing FLL 3 right now..next year FLL 4 they will be in 5th grade..... then what for 6th grade? Those of you who have received your R and Staff, Hake, GWG, VIE....verdicts ? I need in on this advice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Elliot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 We went back to R&S. We had done FLL 1-4 followed by R&S 5 (in 5th grade). She missed FLL, so when the unproofed lessons of ALL came out, we did them. After it was discontinued, we went back to R&S 6. I've used R&S through levels 9-10 for my older dc and have been pleased with the results. If I were in your (the OP's) shoes, I would go from FLL 4 in 5th grade to R&S 6 in 6th grade. I think it would be a smooth transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I am pretty sure we're going to go with KISS. We are "trying it out" this week with the kids and so far, we really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karensk Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 now that ALL will not be available..... I have 4th graders doing FLL 3 right now..next year FLL 4 they will be in 5th grade..... then what for 6th grade? Those of you who have received your R and Staff, Hake, GWG, VIE....verdicts ? Dd did FLL3 and FLL4 over 3rd-5th grades. We took a break from grammar for about 6 weeks, and now she's doing R&S 5 (she's in 6th grade). My goal is to have her finish R&S 6 by the end of 7th grade. I haven't decided what to do after that; she may go to private school for 8th grade. Ds did R&S-5 and R&S-6 over 5th-7th grades (with only a little grammar before that, since FLL-3 & 4 hadn't come out yet). And when he took a practice SAT in the middle of the spring semester of 7th grade (when he was about halfway through R&S-6), he scored well on the grammar section, maybe around the 70th percentile. We do most of the R&S lessons orally, even the "Written" sections. Dd probably does about 20% of the work in writing, especially topics like making words plural and plural possessive, contractions, and diagraming. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 We went to GWG. Mine like the clean pages and straight to the point explanations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC5 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Back to Rod and Staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynful Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hake for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori in MS Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 hake for us too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hake here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattarrattat Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 For Hake users, are you using the whole set --teacher packet, student text, student workbook ? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmom2011 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 n/m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleWonders Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'm still angsting over this ... we are on lesson 57 of FLL 4 (5th and advanced 3rd grader) and will finish the book before the end of the school year. I was pretty sure I was going to go with Hake, but I also like the look of VIE (but man it's expensive). I found this book on diagramming (I think on here somewhere) that I think I'll purchase as well to supplement whatever we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularMom Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 We're using Hake this year, and yes, we are using all the materials: grammar, writing, journal entries, copywork and dictation, and the tests. It's probably the best year of grammar we've had. The only thing I plan on adding to it is some Writing Strands because my dd has requested more writing assignments, specifically more creative ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynful Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 We're going to be using Hake 5 and I bought the whole kit. I'm not sure if we'll use the writing, but I think we might. We use Classical Writing and I may add in WWS also. But this may give my daughter an alternative way to see how to approach writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Hake for us. hake for us too. Hake here. Same here. We will be going with Hake next year. This year we are doing a grammar review with FLL4 first semester, and we will do ALL during 2nd semester, take the summer off then begin Hake 8 in the fall. We will not be using the writing component of Hake, just the grammar. Instead, we will be doing WWS. Dd is really bummed out about no PHP grammar next year, but as long as we stay with WWS, she will survive. She said she thinks SWB's teaching has helped her more than any other we've used. She begged me to stay with PHP, so I'll take her to the end of what we have available. Blessings, Lucinda Edited December 2, 2011 by HSMom2One Hit the Save button too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycc Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I am starting to lose count. I think I am going to do a poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linders Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 We moved to Rod and Staff, after 4 years of FLL. After getting used to a new format, DS11 and I like it - he reads the lesson, I do the warmup review, and we do oral and most of the "written" work out loud. It was a relatively smooth transition in concepts, not many gaps between the programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Ditto-Rod & Staff, we started level 5. Worked well for my olders, now youngest likes it. Wants to follow in brothers' foot steps : ). I use something else for writing, though we do read the writing lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hake5 for dd9. When I dropped FLL3 for ds8, the consensus of the Hive was that I should just take a break from grammar with him. I didn't, but I should have listened. I bought GWG because I felt like I needed to do SOMETHING with him. I am seeing the same complaint that I have read many times about GWG: zero retention. The exercises are so completely formulaic that I don't think they promote any kind of thinking about the concepts. It's truly just fill-in-the-blank kinds of stuff. We're still doing it because ds likes it (of course he does, it's super-duper crazy easy), but he's not learning anything. I'll try to get him back into FLL3 next year. Don't know what we'll do after that. I don't know what Hake would suit him. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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