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  1. My son finally got his PSAT scores in the mail yesterday. His first set. He started getting emails from colleges in January, which is when I thought scores would be out. So I came on here and realized they'd been out for a long time. I looked online and linked his college board account with our home address. Last week, my son started getting physical mail from colleges. And then he got his paper scores yesterday. I'm wondering if he didn't write his mailing address clearly on the PSAT and that caused the delay. I'm really glad to have the paper scores, as there is a lot more information than just the three numbers you get by looking online.
  2. That's a great idea. I think I'll do this with my next children. It was a struggle to find a school for my oldest to take the PSAT. Per the College Board website, I started early. Local high school told me in May that I'd have to wait until August to sign him up, so I worried all summer about whether they would let him. Late August, they finally gave us an answer: No. We found a public school in the next town that said he could sign up after Sept. 14. On the phone, someone said we could. In person, another person said we couldn't. Luckily we got in because we had the first person's name, she was there at the time, and she remembered talking to us in the phone.
  3. Thank you all! My 10th-grade son started at our local CC last week, and he suddenly decided he wants to get an AA before he graduates from high school. I had already heard that a semester at CC = a year in high school, but the Spanish classes at the CC are 101A, 101B, 102A, 102B. This made me stop to come here to look for answers as to whether I could treat each semester course as a year of high school. Considering they are 5 credits each at the CC, I think he can get 1 high-school credit out of each one! Taking just 2 of the 4 semesters will save him a lot of time. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge.
  4. Yikes! Now I'm kicking myself even harder for not pushing more for my son to take the PSAT this month. We made an initial attempt to sign him up, got knocked aside by the local high school, went home to double check my facts (yes he could take it as a 10th grader, yes he needed to sign up at the school and not online), and never made it back to the school to try again. Thanks for posting, so I can add these things to a list of prep items.
  5. My son did this two years ago with zero preparation. We were in the middle of a cross-country move, so it was great for him to have any kind of educational goal. He met it, but we didn't realize until too late that he could have had his book published. This year, I discovered the workbook, and he has gone through some of it over the past few months. He hasn't visited the web site yet, though I did see there were some webinars, which we missed. My son loves to write, do he does this for fun. I won't be assigning much other writing during November, though. And we will try to pay more attention to what is going on in nanowrimo besides my son's writing in a vacuum.
  6. I start formal spelling lessons with my children when they are in third grade, as I prefer to focus on reading and writing first. I was surprised yesterday when giving my 8-year-old his first spelling test. He still isn't as strong a reader as his older brothers were at this age, and I was actually surprised at how well he did with his spelling test (11/12 correct). On one word, he told me the spelling rule as he confirmed he had spelled the word correctly. I asked how he knew that, and he said it had been in his phonics book, OPGTTR, which he finished more than a year ago. Just anecdotal evidence to use OPG and hold off on spelling. If I'd had a child who loved to write at a young age and wanted more work and I'd had time to give it to him, I wouldn't be totally opposed to teaching spelling at a younger age (especially with Spell to Write and Read, which I like). But I've never had that kid or that kind of time. There are lots of spelling programs that are tempting, and I'm sure most would work with consistency, just as "winging it" will work. Using letter tiles is a great method to start with for young or reluctant writers. More fun at any age, really.
  7. For those of you using Joy of Science, can you share how you'll use it? I see that it is on sale right now (but still $125 for the video download version). It does look like a great overview before starting high school science.
  8. My oldest son used the above 5-8 Outlining book (Remedia). It was easy for him, as well, and he was very comfortable outlining other materials after using it. It is his preferred form of notetaking now. It's probably about time to have my second son use it, though all of that writing will be harder for him. He did just come to some outlining in Rod and Staff, but he didn't do the exercises. So as not to overload my children, they are required to read the writing/composition lessons in R&S but rarely have to actually do the exercises. As for where the outlining is found in Rod and Staff English, I have only books 4, 6, and 8 on the shelves right now. English 4 has no outlining but does start to talk about topic sentences. English 6 and English 8 have several outlining lessons in Ch. 4. I think outlining actually starts in English 5, but it isn't accessible to check right now. I hope that helps. Teonei
  9. I read somewhere on this forum last year that the even years are the most important for Rod and Staff English (Gr. 4, 6, 8, 10), so those should be studied the most. Sorry, but I don't remember who said it. It seemed to be a consensus in the threads I was reading. We missed a year of grammar and picked up in Gr. 4 and 6 for two of my boys (skipping Gr. 3 and 5), but my older son is doing Gr. 8 rather than skipping it to do Gr. 9 this year. All are doing fine. That would seem to indicate starting with Gr. 6 for your daughter would be a good idea.
  10. I don't see this posted anywhere, but I apologize if it already has been. I got an email today saying The Teaching Company (The Great Courses) has ALL of its courses on sale 70% off today and tomorrow. Free shipping code: 104475 within the United States. Of course, first check your library, and Audible may be cheaper, but I know some people wait for sales like this one and didn't want you to miss it. :)
  11. I'm so glad I found this thread today. I have been debating about getting some Vandiver and Daileader courses from Audible or waiting for a sale on the Teaching Company web site. Getting them from the library won't work because there is just one copy of each series, and they have holds, so I know I won't be able to keep renewing for months as we use 2 lectures/week. With the sale and a coupon code I found in my inbox, I got the lectures I wanted. Sure, I paid more than I would have on Audible, but my hesitation was that I really wanted the Course Guidebooks. They aren't vital, of course, but I know I won't have time to listen to all of these lectures, and I'd like to have some idea of what my son is learning. The Guidebooks apparently aren't included on Audible. I was happily surprised to find that not only is the PDF Guidebook included with the audio download, but so is the entire course transcript. That is going to make discussing this with my son so much easier! It did work out to almost $7 more each than I would have paid at Audible. So if these PDFs aren't important to you, go with Audible. I might in the future if I don't care about the PDFs. I'm using the Daileader Middle Ages lectures as a spine for my son this year, so that was important to me. Oh, and here's a $20 off coupon code in case it helps anyone. I think it expires in about an hour, though: CD7P
  12. It is very helpful to hear your perspective. Thank you so much for all of your time. I am feeling more confident now.
  13. You are helping a lot, actually. Aside from "Listen to the lecture and write about it" what can I do if I don't know what the lectures are about? The titles don't tell much. I could have him write a list of important people mentioned or events or just 10 things he remembers. I'm a visual learner, so this would be difficult for me, but my son is more auditory. Any more insight you can give me about how you use the lectures would be great. Take notes while listening, listen and discuss, listen and write... I need to spend a week just on this, but I can't. OK, most important is probably -- do you recommend using every lecture, or can some be skipped? In the interest of fitting things into a year, I want a general schedule first. I'd hate to get started before I have everything planned out only to decide I should have skipped some of the first things we already did. KWIM?
  14. I want to be sure I understand how Audible works. Is this right? I could get the entire Early Middle Ages set (all of the lectures) as a free audio book upon enrollment. Then after one month, I would pay $14.95 and would get another audio book so could choose the High Middle Ages. Then another month later, I'd pay $14.95 and get the Late Middle Ages? I can cancel then or keep getting more audio books (Elizabeth Vandiver... Ooh, what a great way to get these courses cheaply. Exciting.) Once I buy these, I can download them, burn them to CD, put on an mp3 player, etc., right? Am I understanding that correctly? Do you use a lot of Audible's offerings in your homeschool? Do you buy them through the amazon web site or audible? Does it make any difference in terms of price or service or anything else? I was originally thinking my son and I would watch the Daileader DVDs together. Then I would know what to talk about with him. If we're doing the audio only, which I think my son might prefer, assuming the class doesn't rely on visual elements, it will be much harder for me to get it done. Without the guidebooks, I'm not sure how I'll discuss it or make essay assignments. Do you listen to each lecture, too? Sorry for all of the questions. I feel like I am getting close and want to work out all of the details. Thank you so much for your patience.
  15. Thank you all so much! I am feeling much better already about handling this year. SilverMoon, thank you for the idea to use the Daileader lectures as a spine, along with Spielvogel. It seems so obvious now that you've said it, but it didn't occur to me to look at the lectures that way before. I think my son would be happier focusing more on the literature than the history, too. So basically, we can do 1 history credit that is about half history and half great books and 1 English credit that is about half literature/Great Books and half composition. That makes more sense than the other things I was thinking. Dare I even think of it, as I plan (but not on the transcript), as 1 Literature credit, 1/2 a history credit, and 1/2 a Composition credit? That is a great deal with Audible. I have purchased audio download courses directly from The Teaching Company, and they included PDFs of the study guide book. Is that included with the Audible purchases? If not, have you ever missed having it? You're right, we will be using SOTW 2 at the same time. To be honest, I haven't looked to see how many topics are in common between the various books. That would make it easier to decide. Great idea. I'll take a look at the Timetables of History to help decide on topics, too. About getting all three stages of the Trivium, it's complicated. We are basically off track for my oldest right now because it puts three of my five children in the "right" years at the "right" times. I don't want to expand the history rotation. I was just wondering whether others have resorted to this to fit in HOMW and HORW. Thanks, Kendall. I'll check into this, too, before I decide.
  16. Thank you for replying, Homeschool Mom. I figured he'd have to skip some if we're to consider using SWB's books here. I'm not sure which ones to skip, as I am not well-read in that time period. I've read some of the literature and remember some of the history, but it will be difficult for me to tell what is the most important half of each book. Did you pick and choose? Have others? Has anyone used these books in their entirety or in part to cover Medieval/Early Renaissance? Does anyone have a schedule they used? On one hand, I want to get the whole story SWB is trying to tell if we are using that as a spine. On the other hand, I could use it as a reference/further research book alongside another spine and not worry about the whole History of the ... World story. So I guess I'm not really set on the idea of using the books in their entirety. The only mention I've seen of this issue was one or two posters lamenting that HOMW ended in the 1100s, but I didn't see anything about what people did about it. Take 5 years to get through the history cycle? Speed through Renaissance? These were old threads, before HORW had been published. Should I choose a completely new spine? A different Spielvogel, maybe? I haven't even looked at the books recommended in the WTM, as I assumed I'd use HOMW. I need to decide quickly, as we're starting Aug. 27, and I want to get this scheduled enough to know we're not doing the early chapters that we should be skipping to make time for later chapters. KWIM? (I really did try to not wait until the last minute. :001_unsure: )
  17. (I'm sure this must have been discussed before, but I have been searching for days and can't find anything. Please point me to any existing threads if you know of them...) How do you schedule your Year 2/Medieval history using SWB's book(s) as a spine? Where do you go from there for Year 3? My oldest child will start 9th grade very soon, and I am still undecided about his history spine. I had him read a little bit of some texts, and he told me he trusts me to decide. Mixed blessing. We're doing Year 2 (400-1600 A.D.). I think I really want him to use SWB's History of the Medieval World, but as far as I can tell from the amazon Look Inside feature, it covers only 312-1129 A.D. To get through 1600, we'd have to add History of the Renaissance World, but even that goes up only to 1453 A.D. It is very unlikely that my son will want to read both books in one year (almost 1600 pages), let alone more after them. I do have Spielvogel's Comprehensive Volume World History, 4th Ed., 2004. I was thinking I would use it, as I like the look of it and the variety inside. I also thought my son could easily manage the 200 pages that cover 400-1600. But now I am thinking it might be too little for high school. Should I use this Spielvogel as a spine and use SWB's books as references for more information on topics of interest that come up while reading Spielvogel or literature? I do plan to add Daileader's Middle Ages TTC lectures if I can get them cheap or from the library, as well as TTC's 1066 and at least part of a Chaucer course (probably need to club this one with English). My son could do more reading, writing, and research if he has a shorter spine. (Related question: should I plan 1 credit history, 1 credit English, and a third credit for literature? or should the lit be spread between English and History and have just 2 credits? I think people do both. Is there one way that is more common for any reason?) I am falling asleep at the keyboard so hope it makes sense what I am asking. If you used HOMW, how did you schedule it? Do you recommend doing history this way, or was it too rushed? Thank you!
  18. This is the plan for my 13yo son this year: Math: finish MUS Algebra 1 and move on to Geometry, finishing both before 10th grade, we hope. Science: Apologia Biology with the microscope labs but virtual dissection only (my now-11yo did a dissection co-op in Spring of 2013 that made his older brother want nothing to do with real dissection.) Foreign Language: Spanish with Rosetta Stone, MFW lesson plans, and Practical Spanish Grammar. We have lots of other Spanish resources around so will add them if we can. My son hated learning Latin, and I'm really hoping this will be a more-positive experience. Religion: this is an outside class starting Aug. 18. It is at 6:30 a.m. every day for four years, and it marks the beginning of high school for our family. English: finish WWS1 and either continue on with WWS 2 and WWS 3 or jump right into the WTM rhetoric schedule (Weston, Kane, Corbett, find some debate activities). I need to see where he is at with academic writing and how quickly he catches on. Rod and Staff 8, since we didn't get to it last year. Maybe try to pick up Vocabulary from Classical Roots again or just start on an SAT prep book. History and Great Books: Medieval Times. P.E.: we'll just start counting all of the P.E. he already does on his own. Cooking: maybe. He loves to bake, and when I get time, he'd like to learn more. If we can turn it into a half or quarter credit, we will.
  19. Pinned near the top of the High School board is a thread called Homeschool High School Biology. I have accessed it before, but today when I try to view it, I get a message saying this: IP.Board MessageYou do not have permission to view this forum. In some cases joining this Social Group will give you permission to view this forum. Retun to this Group's Home The path listed above the message is below, pointing to the Traditional Large Family social group. This is a "hot" thread, and I wonder whether others are having trouble accessing it. In my searches today, I have been locked out of another thread on the high-school forum, too, but I don't remember which one. I also have come across two posts saying people couldn't access or reply to threads because of these social group errors. I'd appreciate any attention you can give this. Teonei The Well-Trained Mind Community → Groups → Traditional Large family logistics → Group Discussion → High School and Self-Education Board
  20. Thank you for the clarification. I will certainly look into the new recommendations, as well.
  21. Thank you for these updates, Susan. I especially appreciate the various paths given and options for natural writers. Do you no longer recommend Weston's Rulebook for Arguments? Can you tell us why? I was planning to use it with my oldest in the coming year or two. Thanks, Teonei
  22. Thanks for posting this. It does look interesting. From the limited information on the site, it seems to formalize an organic style of learning to spell across the curriculum. At the bottom of the web page, it says there are no grade levels, like with MUS, but the topics, such as nursery rhymes, might make this harder to use for older struggling spellers. I'll be watching for more information, though.
  23. I don't know how helpful this will be, as it's not a direct answer, but ideas: My 9-year-old was using The Big Book of Lively Latin Vol. 1, and he was doing all right, but he hates to write, and that program has too much for him. (Bigger problem maybe was that I was letting it be too independent for him when I should have helped more.) This year, when he was 10, we switched to GSWL, and he is doing that concurrently with Visual Latin. So far he is enjoying both and doesn't even mind the writing for GSWL word of the day and the VL worksheets. We haven't gotten very far into this, but VL will eventually add in Lingua Latina, so we'll have some more difficult material. For now, though, Visual Latin is pretty simple, like Getting Started With Latin. It might be a good step after GSWL. But if your child likes to learn by reading and writing and doing word puzzles, then Lively Latin is also a good choice (it has free online games and mp3 audios, too). I made my choices for all of these partially because they can be purchased once and used for more children later. But my research on the many Latin programs led me to believe that LL and VL are also solid programs. Good luck with your choice! Teonei
  24. So we basically just add in any supplements to get the hours and depth/understanding. A weekly discussion and paper will easily add to this, and we didn't do that this week. We were just easing into our first week of school. I just realized a project he suggested, which will take him a few months, would tie into history, as well. I'm sure we can think of others, too. Thanks for your ideas.
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