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  1. Not all rooms have doors on them. Our livingroom had the best lighting and seating, quiet activities for the older two during red alouds, and was an open floor plan. On one end it was open to the kitchen and on the other it was open to the other living area and diningroom. The entire downstairs was open except for the bathroom. Very typical of new builds in the southwest.
  2. Because the blanket is easier to move and clean. I used a medium sized, lightweight area rug. I had a bin of special toys that we only got out when I was "blanket training", although I didn't call it that because we weren't doing what the Pearls recommended and we didn't want to be associated with their nonsense. There were special treats too that she only had during that time. I did it only for morning read alouds or when I needed use all together and I was focused on the older two (older two re 7 and 9 years older than youngest), which was about 30 minutes max. When the youngest crawled off the blanket, we matter of factly picked her up, gave her a hug/kiss, put her back on it, handed her a toy or treat or both, and kept doing what we were doing. No scolding, no spanking, no talking at all, just physical redirection and enjoying a book and togetherness.
  3. When I was anemic there were 2 contributing factors: uterine fibroid tumors and an inability to absorb B-12 in my digestive tract. If the B-12 test had come back normal the next step was to test for a bone marrow issue. A hysterectomy (I was done having kids 10 years prior to the surgery but fibroid surgery was also an option) and twice a month self-administered B-12 shots for the rest of my life (oral supplements aren't an option for me) resolved my anemia. Prolonged low levels of B-12 can cause nervous system issues. So make sure they're testing to figure out why she's anemic while they treat symptoms.
  4. I have ordered hundreds of bulbs (daffodils, irises, tulips, crocuses, caladium, lucojums, hyacinths, clematis, etc.) from Longfield in the last 4 years and they've been fantastic! I have an ornamental woodland garden and planting beds in front of my house. I highly recommend them. I usually order the bulk options like these daffodil options: https://www.longfield-gardens.com/search.php?search_query_adv=daffodils+bulk
  5. I was in DC with my husband at the end of May of this year. No, I wasn't interested even though we could've afforded it. I wouldn't go if it had been free. I'm a Christian and my husband isn't. The state of the American church right now is such a mess that I wouldn't want to associate with questionable Christian groups with questionable practices. (Please don't anyone respond as though I suggested perfection as my standard of association-I most certainly did not. My standard is decency and contentiousness, not perfection.) I had heard about questionable acquisitions there and Ken Ham isn't someone I have a positive view of, so I wouldn't be interested in his museum either.
  6. I have fish. Consequence....punishment...neurodivergent....neurotypical...can understand cause and effect....can't understand cause and effect...WHATEVER....none of that actually matters on to the bottom line. We're all subject to reality whether we like it or understand it or not. The bottom line is that living creatures dependent on humans should only be under the care a human that is both willing and able to care for them properly. Neither the OP nor the OPs daughter fit that criteria, therefore regardless of neuroscience, emotions, relationships, etc. the only moral thing to do is to get that fish back to the store or to a private party that meets the criteria. It's not morally right to put a fish in inadequate care and it's not morally right to force someone else who didn't want it to begin with to care for the fish. Bye, fish. Have a nice life somewhere else. Take it back to the pet store and be done already. Fishy needs a good fishy home today.
  7. He can do whatever he likes- give it to his sister, donate it, trash it, put in on an effigy of me and burn it like Ron Swanson, whatever. That doesn't mean I want it. (It's so weird monetary value keeps popping up in this discussion. Monetary value has nothing to do with it..) "Here's that jewelry you gave me and your sweatshirt and that book you gave me...God bless you and keep you.."...far away from me. I'm not into memorializing everything so there's no way I'd keep anything from a romantic relationship that ended, including one that ended amicably. I think this tendency of memorializing things slows down the moving on or completion process and creates negative messages from stuff around us. There's actual scientific research on the effect of physical objects in our environment on our mental health. Minimalism often speaks to the unspoken messages our stuff tells us. I think there's power in the ancient idea of "cultivating passions" in our thoughts, practices, affections, and physical environment. Giving back a token of someone's heart is a clear message to myself, them, and others that that person's heart no longer belongs to me and I'm not going invest more thoughts of it. I give it back to them because I'm no longer interested in their heart or any tokens of it. When I'm in a current romantic relationship, I keep only tokens of that person's heart because I'm whole heartedly focused on that. And no, don't send friend requests or accept friend requests of former romantic partners on social media. Not even after the former romantic partner then asked a mutual friend for me to do so. All but one former boyfriend sent requests and I declined them all. I'm not putting any time or energy into even perfectly innocent requests. I don't want to navigate that. It's not cold-hearted, bitter, or resentful. That relationship ended. I see no reason to start any other type of relationship if we don't have children together. I'm done. I moved on. I have limited bandwidth and won't use any of it on reincarnating new forms of ended romantic relationships. I take closure seriously.
  8. I have always believed and practiced the return of gifted jewelry when a romantic relationship ends. I think it's weird to want to keep it, frankly. When it's over, it's over. Make a clean break and return it. No mixed signals. "You and all the tokens of our romance from you are out of my life. Go have a great life...without me in it. Live long, prosper, Spock hand and all that." If I really liked the item, I'D buy my OWN version of it for myself. Women are allowed to buy themselves jewelry after all. Also, I'm not a stuff person. No dragon tendencies about shiny objects here. When I was 16 I returned heart shaped gold stud earrings and an emerald ring to a boyfriend (older Gen X) after we broke up after a year together. When I was 18 I returned another emerald ring to another boyfriend (older Gen X) after we broke up less than a year together. I never said anything about wanting a birthstone ring to them. Must be an older Gen X thing to buy your girlfriend a birthstone piece of jewelry. The exception would be if you're giving it to the children of your ex. My mother kept her wedding set (didn't wear it) and gave me the multi-diamond wedding band when I graduated from high school. She saved the engagement ring for my brother to give as/trade in/reset in for an engagement ring/gift when he got married. He traded it in to get a larger diamond ring for her. Sort of a let's make one nice thing out of this sh!t show of an obvious to everyone but us ill-fated relationship that went on far too long. Let's celebrate a milestone for each of you.
  9. I always change the question to ask, "How do you like it? " first. It doesn't matter whether I like it or not. If they like it I say something like, "I'm so glad you got one you like." If they don't like it I'll sympathize. "It sucks when a haircut doesn't work out the way you want it." I don't invest heavily in feelings about other people's appearance, so I wouldn't be too worried about them getting a cut they end up not liking. If they pressed me and insisted on knowing if I like it or not (never happened) I would say, "Not particularly, but that's not what matters." I don't feel the need to protect my children from their feelings. Most of us have had a haircut we didn't like. We felt our feelings about it and our lives went on. Lesson learned. I was raised by a mother who often told us to NEVER ask a question unless 1. we actually want to know the answer and 2. we have seriously considered, before asking the question, that we might not get an answer we like. Are we OK with that? Then ask. If not, don't ask. With my stylist I always: 1. bring pics of what I want (usually my top 3 preferred styles) 2. state how many times a week I want to wash it 3. how often I want to style it with my preferred tools and products 4. ask (wanting to hear the answer) about whether or not my head of hair is particularly suited to those styles 5. what haircuts my stylist would recommend for my hair type and face shape You have to ask like you actually want to know and add statements and questions like, "I know not every head of hair can actually do every style, so I want to work with my hair, not against it." and "Is this hairstyle realistic for me?" They need to know you really do want to seriously weigh a professional opinion.
  10. Hi. Thanks. I stop by occasionally now that I'm retired.
  11. Put in an automatic watering system in our little food forest and maybe our ornamental woodland garden. Build that Ana White greenhouse with a few nifty modifications. Take those low key, week long trips to Chicago in the summer and Boston in the fall to tour each city and their nearby gardens.
  12. Lurk now and then at TWTM boards. Finally decide to comment. I retired in May 2022 and immediately rushed back to AZ to help my brother care for my dad after his open heart surgery. I was there a couple of weeks and he was very difficult. Youngest spent a semester at the local badly run community college, then switched to a technical college that has it together. She'll finish up there this year then head to university. A lot of time has been spent providing support of various types to help oldest who is currently disabled with her medically complex (physical and mental) issues. At least we're in a med school city. Putting in more of our food forest and ornamental gardens. The fish pond is in and we're growing our biofilter. The cattlepannel tunnels and archway are in. I've tested some new plant cultivars. We're doing a little forestry under the supervision of the federal agency that handles that for the 11 acre protected wetland that borders our property. I joined two book local clubs and stuck with the smaller one because the conversation is better. Really interesting people tend to join book clubs. I tried out a 40+ women's group. Nice folks, but their weekend activities don't work for my schedule. I flew back to AZ in May of this year when they released my step-dad, who helped raise me, from the hospital and into hospice care at home. All 5 adult kids were with him for his last 3 days. Then there was the two weeks of dealing with my difficult mother through funeral plans and managing all the complicated family dynamics issues with all the siblings. Why did I wait so long to move away? I still haven't processed it emotionally. It was exhausting and has thrown me for a loop spiritually this summer. I'll get it worked out, but there it is. My husband and I took a delightful 30th anniversary trip to DC via train (I always wanted to go on a train) when I got back from AZ. We're now big fans of train travel and are planning to see more of the eastern US that way. We're in a really good place as a couple right now, basically a second honeymoon, so that's been lovely. I found a different church that's focused on racial reconciliation and building community, so I'm volunteering there, getting to know people, and joined their book club too. For those of you listening to The Holy Post and their interviewees like Derwin Grey and Esau MacCaullay, on that topic, it's like that. Overall it's been good. My neck issues have been limiting, so that's a huge adjustment. Mobility issues can really mess with your sense of self. I'm trying not to be too demoralized. I'm still working on getting neighborhood community going. Two new families are in and we're enjoying their company. One is especially interested in community building and she's done some suburban homesteading, so she's been great.
  13. Too many people to quote and tag. Based on comments, it clear many missed the context of my socioeconomic level comments. I never said everyone here in The South is low on the socioeconomic ladder with no access to a good education, I said the people that I interact with that use baby/pillow talk are. (Honey, baby, sweetie, etc.) That's a specific subset of Southerners. I have no expectation that someone at a low socioeconomic level (evidenced by women who are missing teeth+ using very non-standard grammar+ working low paying jobs at an older ages) has the leisure time and money for lots of book reading, tv watching, out of region travel, and movie going. That person has likely been working multiple jobs for a very long time just to tread water. Saying so is not looking down on them for it, it's understanding their context and adjusting my expectations accordingly. Discussions about subcultures often have a socioeconomic component. It explains why they wouldn't know baby/pillow talk is offensive in a place of business. Clearly they don't know it as evidenced by them using it with a friendly demeanor. Women's rights groups have been fighting for generations against women being treated like girls such as needing permission from their daddies and husbands to get credit cards and their own bank accounts, etc. and they want to be spoken to in the same terms their male co-workers speak to each other, not with terms used for sexual partners, that's why that talk is so offensive. People higher up the economic ladder would have been exposed to ideas like that through media, subculture, and professional norms, which is why they don't use baby/pillow talk in that context. It's usage is clearly a class distinction in this area, which any linguist will tell you is highly influential in regional language differences. People with enough money for leisure time (midway and higher on the socioeconomic rungs) have seen plenty of tv and movies, and have read books set in different places in decent public schools, and many have traveled out of their regions, any of which is ample opportunity to notice that ma'am culture isn't normative across the US-it's region specific to The South generally, and in some regions in business settings when you need a customer's attention and don't know their name. They know there are differences. The problem is, way too many who use it seem to assume that all other regions see ma'am as neutral. They have a very hard time accepting that it's not used due to reasons on a spectrum from neutral/out of the norm to highly negative/offensive, so they don't see the need to fill the kids in on the idea of sharp differences. Then when they or their kids occasionally get a negative reaction from someone who finds it offensive, they act surprised. They shouldn't. The Maine scenario with the Texan parents and kid sent home for saying ma'am should've noticed the differences either from a life time's worth of media or being in that new place where people there don't use it at all. Likewise the teacher and principle should've not have applied a zero tolerance policy in that situation because they've been around long enough to know Southerners use it. None of the adults are off the hook. I used that example to drive home the point that there are places where it is different degrees of offensive, like it or not, a fact people should accept, like it or not. No one is saying that accepting that fact is the same as agreeing that it's offensive, I'm saying it makes sense to acknowledge that it is offensive to some people and to make kids aware of the idea that what is polite to some is rude to others so they should adjust their expectations. Let's not mischaracterize things. I never suggested that people in The South should stop using ma'am just because transplants and visitors don't use it. I said I refuse to use it based on an egalitarian principle I have against the hierarchical terms ma'am and sir. I said transplant culture is changing the culture in The South and ma'am won't be used at all in a generation or two because of population changes and the cultural norms they bring with them. That's how non-isolationist culture has always worked throughout history. It should surprise no one, yet somehow so many people here and in the big city southwest transplant culture I came from are still surprised by these cultural changes that have been going on around them for decades. I'm not saying anyone has to like the changes, I'm saying it's really weird to not expect changes in culture when the population changes significantly. It's like not expecting the sun to rise in the east. Yeah, it does that. I see no point is fussing over it the way so many people do. Back to the ma'am thing, since other parts of the country find ma'am offensive, saying, "People who use it don't mean it offensively" doesn't solve the problem in the other regions. That's why I gave the example of the response to the term "chief" by the Native American tribe near me. Just because in my world it's neutral, it's unrealistic to expect someone who finds it offensive to like it used at them or for them to agree that it's acceptable. Likewise, if you don't hear a drawl and some y'alls from someone, you're rolling the dice using ma'am with them. I was very clear I tolerate it for the sake of peace, but this is a thread about what rubs you the wrong way, so I talked about it rubbing me very wrong and the underlying reasons of why it's so bothersome.
  14. I didn't say they shouldn't teach them at all, I said they should explain to their kids that they're not universal. I don't correct people around me even though they are being, by my standards, rude because I understand the principle-manners are subcultural. I was taught that they were from a young age. I grew up hearing manners rules prefaced with, "Here it's polite to ______________ instead of __________. It's different other places." I assume growing up in transplant culture like I was, it was more common to be taught an awareness of differences. Growing up in cosmopolitan areas (large population, different subcultures) creates awareness too. I knew at an early age what Mexican time (running a hour or two late) and Native Time were, (in a couple of the local tribes, several hours late was the norm and on time was very rude) which was in stark contrast to the hyper-punctuality my subculture was known for. I lived next to reservations for decades and in a very high Latino population. So it wasn't odd at all for parents to distinguish with kids. "You got it, chief." is neutral or positive in my world. 1 mile south of one of my houses I lived in for 14 years, on tribal land, it's the equivalent to the N word. Yeah, kids where I'm from needed to know that what's polite to them can be the complete opposite to their neighbor. I also had divorced parents from different subcultures: poor working class "swamp Yankee" not religious and middle class southwestern blue collar evangelical, so there were things that were not polite in my mother's world but perfectly acceptable in my father's. Swearing, bodily function talk/jokes, etc. So again, sets of manners were applicable in one environment and not the other. My mother's side is from The South, so we had to be prepped to meet the relatives who used ma'am and sir all over the place regardless of age, but I couldn't use it around the locals because it was offensive to non-elderly people. As a kid I had Asian friends that had different manners and I was taught to obey when at their houses like no shoes in the house, don't stick your chopsticks upright into the bowl of food and leave them there, slurping noodles is ok, etc. I had a friend from Italy where it was perfectly acceptable for people to yell every freaking sentence to each other in what sounded to me like angry tones that would've got my head slapped off if I had done it in my own home. In some friend's houses the first time I was invited over after meeting them, I was given the tour of the kitchen, told to help myself to anything I liked, and to not bother knocking before coming over again if I was expected. At other houses, that would've been seen as incredibly rude. Manners are situation specific. Kids should know that. So I sucked it up when they talked to me like that even though it was considered extremely rude in my world, and knew to not do it in my home. That's why I tolerate ma'am and baby/pillow talk words here, because it's the norm with a few local subcultures. So yes, I think it's a realistic expectation that parents contentiously explain to their children that there are different sets of manners rules for different subcultural contexts and to keep an eye and ear out for it because the reaction they could get might be intense. Let me tell you real story about a parent who failed to do this for their child. Within the last 10 years, my cousin's kids, living in rural Maine where it's taboo to call anyone ma'am, started a new school year with a new kid from Texas. They were mid-elementary aged. The teacher started class with some type of instruction, I forget what exactly. Texas kid responded with, "Yes, Ma'am!" All the kids gasped and looked shocked, then waited to see what the teacher would do. The teacher immediately sent the child to the principle's office and the principal called the kid's parents to come get him because they weren't going to tolerate that kind of disrespect directed at a teacher in their school. There are no polite usages of ma'am in that subculture. None. Only sarcastic ones. That child would've been so much better off it he had been told that ma'am is not universally used outside The South because it's not universally seen as polite-in some places it's the opposite of polite. Imagine how shocked that poor kid was getting that kind of response from the teacher and principal. Imagine how shocked his parents were. No one from the area was surprised in the least. All of the kids thought the teacher was just doing the right thing and would've expected the same treatment had they said it. So would their parents.
  15. When people say, "But we/I've always done it this way." in response to proposed change that solves a stated problem. It may be true that it's always been done that way, but it's not relevant. Obviously it's problematic, so let's move on to problem solving, not reviewing history. People telling my obviously adopted child she's lucky to have us or should be so grateful to us.I respond with, "We're lucky to have her and are so grateful to all the people who helped facilitate her adoption. " The cluelessness is strong in some people. When my morbidly obese SIL and a few other people comment on my food choices. "You're so thin because you're eating that and I'm fat/gaining weight because I'm eating this." If it would be considered rude for someone to mirror back exactly what you said, don't say it in the first place. "Yes, my food choices keep me thin while yours make you fat/bigger." That would be obnoxious of me to say. People referring to adults as "sweetheart", "sweetie", "hon", "honey", "darlin'", "baby", etc. In my world those are for intimate relationships between adults and can only be directed to young children in general, never directed at other adults in non-intimate relationships. Here in The South it's common and incredibly grating. I can't tell women who direct them at me (usually cashiers) how demeaning and insulting it is because they're just older people from a lower socioeconomic class where that's normative and have no reference point for norms in the wider world. They have enough to deal with, I don't want to pile onto their difficult lives. And of course, ma'am. I'd prefer actual fingernails on a blackboard to ma'am because screeching chalkboard sounds are more pleasant. Where I come from it means little old lady with white hair, a hump, walker, hearing aids, and dentures. Staff in the southwest in big cities who grew up there only use Miss, never ma'am unless the above description fits. They're risking a complaint to the management if ma'am was used for a customer who didn't fit that description. Transplants there have to be trained to avoid it, but sometimes it slips out and some recipients are visibly irritated. Usually it's freezing and locking in a stare, the cocking of a head to one angle, a stone cold face, or raised eyebrows, followed by a deep sigh. It took me 6 months after my move to not feel like someone was stabbing me in the heart when they used ma'am with me. I keep my face neutral, but I won't use it. I can't on principle-it's not appropriate because honorifics are hierarchical in nature. This is a fast growing, high transplant area, so ma'am being flooded out by mainstream American norms. No need to perpetuate it, it'll die out here in a generation or two if this growth remains steady. It's really a disservice to children raised in ma'am culture because they aren't told by their parents that it's only appropriate in their region and usually don't grasp how insulting it is to people where it's taboo (rural Maine where my dad's side lives) or unacceptable (big city southwest) to use it. I don't like Mrs. Lastname at all and I despise Miss Firstname. I only tolerate it for the sake of peace, but it doesn't matter if it's a kid or an adult, I introduce myself as Lisa. Anyone calling me anything other than what I introduced myself as is being rude no matter what their mommy told them. I get if they're reading my name off of paperwork or something else and didn't get a proper introduction from me first, but after the introduction, it's polite to only call people what they introduce themselves as.
  16. I agree that it's perfectly fine to bring your own lunch if it's the norm for people to do their own thing for lunches in the past rather than one person providing lunch for everyone. If you want to bring enough for everyone, do it with realistic expectations. She will likely say passive aggressive or nasty things to you about your choices of food without any gratitude at all. Do it because you want to do it, not because you want/need/expect any acknowledgement or appreciation. It's important to stay grounded in cold hard reality at all times. This is no place for idealism. It's also agree that it's a good idea to avoid meal times if you want to bypass the whole thing for the sake of simplicity.
  17. Honestly, I don't think the consequences for either kid will be catastrophic or even significant you and your husband take a weekend away. So a kid bombs an assignment. Shrug. So a kid might fail a driving test. Shrug. (No one is saying you have to schedule the get away at the same time as the test.) People were surprised to hear all 3 of my kids passed permit and license tests on the first try because apparently it's very common for neurotypical, good academic students to fail the first time and even the second time. So if a kid, who already has a therapist, doesn't pass, her world will not end. Your world will not end. Don't get yourself into the mindset that one certain outcome is the only one that will keep the world spinning or you'll create some mental health issues for yourself. Be prepared emotionally/mentally/spiritually for different outcomes and be prepared to articulate them to her calmly and confidently. "If you fail the test you'll do what everyone else who fails the test does-you'll try again until you pass." If she has a downward spiral you'll let her therapist know and maybe move up the other testing. Maybe a low dose anti-anxiety/sedative is in order for test day-ask the therapist. Not getting a break during intense times is hard on a person, marriage, and family. I say that as someone who has been through serious mental health issues with multiple immediate family members at the same time for years at a stretch.
  18. I'm from Phoenix, so I know exactly what you mean. Some places of business there with entrances and windows south or west facing have serious tinting. From the outside, it doesn't seem like the lights are on. Not every place, but enough that people from those environments wouldn't automatically associate dim with lights off and closed. I'm guessing that's likely not something people from the UK would have experienced based on my religious viewing of Monty Don's gardening show where he sometimes wears a light jacket in summer. A jacket!....in summer!....outside!...while gardening!?!?
  19. Lights were off, reopen time was posted, so no, the customer should not have tried to enter the shop. I have no problem with the employee stating pleasantly, "Sorry, as the sign on the door says, we're closed until X; I'll be happy to help you then." Then turning around and walking to the back room to enjoy a lunch break. I agree that it's possible it was due to being unobservant, (a store closed at lunch time is unheard of in my world-people run to stores on their lunch breaks all.the.time.) but it's just as possible it was a Karen if the door was sort of bolted. (I wonder if the bolt isn't functioning properly all the time because the customer was able to get in.) Look, we've all been around Karens, and if you've ever worked in retail or service industries, you know many a customer from N. America thinks that because they're a paying customer, the customer is always right and should be catered to like a spoiled brat no matter what, policies be damned. My youngest is a hostess at a steakhouse. Don't get me started. The proper protocol for a customer in that situation is to see the sign and lights off and walk away, or if they didn't notice the sign and lights, to hear the employee state the policy, walk out, then grumble about it to people from their own subculture. I would.
  20. High fiber + high protein are a good combination for being satisfied longer: hummus and carrots, apples and nutbutter. A good quality full fat plain Greek yogurt with your favorite berries (fresh or dried without added sugars), nuts, and sprinkled with high protein granola is tasty and filling. High quality fats like avocados and coconut milk are filling too and feed your brain. Avocado toast with an egg fried or scrambled egg on a high quality wheat bread (higher in fiber and protein) are good. Natural fructose found in fruits (fresh or dried with no added sugar) that have fiber in them or other important nutrients like cherries, bananas, apples, pears, oranges, etc. are good too. It's a little energy bump keep your blood sugar up without spiking it sky high before a crash later. Have some with a handful of your favorite unsalted or lightly salted nuts and/or seeds for protein and other minerals. If you still want some Cheerios because you like it, give it nutritional heft by adding whole milk, chopped or sliced nuts, dried or fresh berries, and banana slices.
  21. If you don't live in Smalltown, Red Bubbledom, USA then yes, it is a current fashion. I see it here in greater Raleigh bordering on the rural part, and this isn't exactly a social environment like Portland, Oregon. If a place of business is likely to discriminate against applicants, he can just take the earrings out. We're talking about earrings and not gauges, right? Whether they close up later or not (I have 3 piercings in my left ear. One closed, the others didn't.) it really shouldn't matter because those holes are tiny.
  22. Just because she has insurance doesn't mean it covers the mental health care she needs. Have you ever paid for ongoing mental health treatment and testing? We've spent tens of thousands and her insurance does cover a little bit of it, but not even close to everything. Whether or not she's on someone else's insurance and whether or not it covers what she needs and whether or not testing and treatment are at a premium isn't really your business. You daughter isn't morally responsible for the roommate's portion of the rent for the amount of time the roommate agreed to. I hope the law sees it that way. If not, it sounds like a strange lease agreement that could turn out to be a very expensive lesson for your daughter. When looking at places to rent, keep the worst case roommate scenario in mind and only sign for a place that allows a replacement roommate if it doesn't work out with the original roommate.
  23. The 7 seat Cessna tour was really cool. My hairdresser back in AZ took the helicopter package where you get a picnic lunch and they land you in a spot in the canyon with a panic button and come back a couple of hours later for you. Some people really like the pink jeep tour where they drive you around in the canyon for a while. I haven't taken one in the Grand Canyon but we loved loved loved it in Canyon de Chelley.
  24. I agree it makes sense for the roommate to move into her parents' home under closer adult supervision and go out with friends sometimes. I also agree the roommate is morally obligated to pay rent for the time she agreed to be a roommate unless the roommate finds someone to take her place. Morally, the roommate's half of the rent is not your daughter's problem to solve neither is finding a roommate. I don't know that the legalities are, but those are the moral ethics involved. Mental health services and meds are crazy expensive for someone whose health insurance doesn't cover some or all of it or who doesn't have health insurance, so it may be true that she can't afford rent now, but again, that's the roommate's responsibility, not your daughter's. (I'm a parent who moved a kid from another state to near me due to her mental health break down and bought out her lease, so I practice what I preach on this. )
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