Extreme mastery math

[shadah]

I need a math program that is:

Black and white

Clean pages

Mastery

Works on number sense- ex. What is four? 4 objects, two groups of two, etc.

 

Dd needs to map, draw, diagram, graph .... every number to understand. For example, 2x4 is not just 8. It is 2+2+2. It is our family and the neighbors. It is dots lined up but also dots randomly placed. It is 2x5-2. How does it compare to 10? What if we had a number system based on 12? You get the idea. She has to see every angle for one problem before moving on.

 

She cannot work with manipulatives. Too distracting. Pencil and paper diagrams or pictures. She loves word problems. Words make sense. Numerals have no meaning. She can memorize anything. That's not the problem. Conceptually she needs every angle, every piece for it to make sense.

I originally thought discalcula, but I think it is more creative thinking. Something is not done until we have exhausted the ways we can look at it.

Please tell me someone has seen this before. What did you do?

[SarahW]

Math Mammoth?

 

You can print it B&W, though the color helps when there's diagrams for teaching the concept.

 

The review is mostly in separate lessons, you could skip them if you want.

[wapiti]

I would definitely take a look at Math Mammoth, maybe the Blue series, though the pages may not be clean enough for you.

 

Look at Singapore - I think the old US edition is B&W in the workbook with minimal color in the text and much more space than MM.

 

Another possibility I don't know much about is Ronit Bird (see threads on Learning Challenges board - I vaguely recall something about counting dots)

Edited September 6, 2016 by wapiti

[silver]

MEP doesn't do multiplication in year one, but it does break up numbers like that.

 

Miquon does exercises like that, but it uses manipulatives.

 

Maybe CSMP?

[shadah]

I'm going to print some MEP this week to try. MM has too small print. It blurs together for her. I may just keep going with R&S with lots of math journaling on the side. But, I have to do that. It's not pre-made for me.

[fralala]

I think MEP, or Singapore-- it will be really easy to customize Singapore to your daughter's needs, and the Challenging Word Problems and Intensive Practice books may be just up her alley. My second grader has pictures and diagrams all over hers and honestly the Textbook has been kind of a waste for us because she does better when she can draw her own pictures and diagrams.

 

I think the heavy emphasis on use of manipulatives (and in Singapore, teaching concrete to pictorial to abstract) is very important in a classroom where you have kids with all kinds of learning styles and may need to understand in different ways, but it would be a mistake to interpret it as "There is something wrong with my child is she really gets the pictorial nature of things but gets frustrated with hands-on." It sounds like you understand the way your daughter learns and thinks about math very well, and you could tailor either of these programs for her!

[happybeachbum]

Not black and white and video, but have you thought of Systematic Mathematics.  Well actually I think he encourages using the First two Strayer-Upton books Practical Arithmetics which are black and white. They have a lot of word problems.  They aren't completely spiral or completely mastery.  It's hard to explain.  The thing is the structure you describe might not fit with how the books explain what works with your daughter I think the fifth grade part of the 5 and 6th grade book and the 6th grade would be his classes.  Maybe also check out http://donpotter.net/education_pages/math.html and use what you need also http://hs-free-homeschool-curriculum.blogspot.com/2012/05/math.html

[Innisfree]

Try posting on Learning Challenges.

 

I think what you're describing may in fact be dyscalculia. You're seeing lack of number sense, right? A lack of understanding what "four" is, and how it relates to, say, "two" or "ten"?

 

Ronit Bird produces books which are probably going to be the most help in addressing this, but they are really more for you than for your dd. They are not open-and-go; they'll take a certain investment of time on your part, but can be very helpful.

 

Folks on LC can give you more guidance.

[Guest]

Developmental Math

[happybeachbum]

Have you considered using Dominoes?

[shinyhappypeople]

Developmental Math

 

This (Developmental Math) is almost exactly what you've described.  Start her at the very beginning to get the number sense work.  

 

Jump Math might also work. 

 

Would she be open to playing games for math?  I'm sure we could come up with some good ideas if you want to go in that direction.

 

My first thought was MUS but it relies on manipulatives.  Same with Miquon.

 

How old is your DD?  A learning eval might be useful.  Before you say no, just hear me out, ok? It's NOT about slapping a label on your kid or finding out what's WRONG.   It's about giving you more information about how her unique brain works.  The most useful parts of my DD's evals weren't the fancy LD labels (I already knew about those!), but the information about things like working memory and processing speed (her struggles) as well as perceptual reasoning and vocabulary (her strengths).  Armed with this information I'm doing a MUCH better job helping her learn.  Before it was like shooting arrows in the dark, hoping I hit the target.  

 

:grouphug: 

Edited September 14, 2016 by shinyhappypeople

[wendyroo]

 MM has too small print. It blurs together for her. 

 

If you have a tablet, it is possible to buy MM in pdf form and then work on it directly on the tablet.  You can use an app to zoom in on the pages and write your answers.

 

Just an idea if that was the main stumbling block with MM.

 

Wendy

[shinyhappypeople]

I'm going to print some MEP this week to try. MM has too small print. It blurs together for her. I may just keep going with R&S with lots of math journaling on the side. But, I have to do that. It's not pre-made for me.

 

The bolded concerns me.  Please consider having her vision evaluated by a developmental optometrist.  This isn't the same as a regular vision exam you'd get from a regular eye doctor.

 

  :grouphug: 

[shinyhappypeople]

Double post.

Edited September 14, 2016 by shinyhappypeople

[Alessandra]

Life of Fred?

 

It is a story with math concepts.

 

Picture books about math -- anything by Anno, for example. Anno's Counting House, Anno's Mysterious Multiplying Jar.

 

Demi, A Grain of Rice

 

Denise Gaskins, Let's Play Math (available in Kindle), has a good chapter on math picture books and stories.

 

Common core sheets.com has single topic printable worksheets that are open and clean.

 

We have a lot of apps from braining camp. They are virtual manipulatives. I don't know if virtual manipulatives would be acceptable for you, but there are lots more around.

 

https://www.brainingcamp.com

Edited September 15, 2016 by Alessandra

[shadah]

We tried mep this week. We backed up to year 2. A year ago the pages would have been too busy. She really likes it. I had her make her own flash cards. She thought really hard how she wanted them to look. I also added card games and dice games. Again, a year ago this would have been a melt down. So, yay. Whatever is the problem we at least have something to work with. Maybe also a little maturity was needed. She is 8.

I have considered Developmental Mathematics in the past. I think you are right and she would do well with it.

We have been to two specialists about her eyes. She has trouble focusing. Glasses helped but didn't solve the problem. They told me it was developmental and to give it more time. It has gotten better since then. She can read regular size print now. Busy pages are still an issue. I may have to get another referral.

[Rosie_0801]

If she likes pictures, she'll probably get something out of CSMP- the dot and string pictures, anyway. Possibly the minicomputers.

[scoutingmom]

I honestly think that Rightstart would be a good choice, and that she would love the way you van manipulate the numbers on the abacus.

 

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[Tiramisu]

We tried mep this week. We backed up to year 2. A year ago the pages would have been too busy. She really likes it. I had her make her own flash cards. She thought really hard how she wanted them to look. I also added card games and dice games. Again, a year ago this would have been a melt down. So, yay. Whatever is the problem we at least have something to work with. Maybe also a little maturity was needed. She is 8.

I have considered Developmental Mathematics in the past. I think you are right and she would do well with it.

We have been to two specialists about her eyes. She has trouble focusing. Glasses helped but didn't solve the problem. They told me it was developmental and to give it more time. It has gotten better since then. She can read regular size print now. Busy pages are still an issue. I may have to get another referral.

Find a developmental optometrist through covd.org and ask your local homeschool group if anyone can recommend an optometrist who specializes in vision therapy, who parents love.

 

That's really the most efficient way to get answers about the visual issues you describe.

[Targhee]

I honestly think that Rightstart would be a good choice, and that she would love the way you van manipulate the numbers on the abacus.

 

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I was thinking this also, but OP said manipulatives are distracting. Do you mean they become toys and don't result in pencil and paper work being done? The work in RS is predominantly oral and with manipulatives. There are a few writing tasks but nothing lack a traditional math. I would start in level B to cement those numeracy concepts and become very comfortable in base ten system, then move on to Singapore or MEP.

[shadah]

It's the colors that are distracting. We worked with lima beans for awhile because they are white. I have drooled over some natural wood manipulatives. But, it's just not practical. Her flashcards she wrote are black and white. Her drawings on her math papers are just in pencil. My explanations on the white board are in one color.

I know this is weird, but I am kind of like this, too. I have a photographic memory for print. I can re-read books I have read before and play music. I can picture it in my head. I blank out if the page has color, though. She hasn't complained about that. But, I wonder if there is a connection. I didn't expect it in my kids. Look at all the money I wasted on cute kindergarten material and "fun" math. I have simplified since then and everything is going well except math. It's still a puzzle.

Okay, now I'm embarrassed. I just told the world how weird we are. I have always looked at it like nothing really comes easy. A gift in one way is a curse in another.

[Tiramisu]

Don't be embarrassed! You're not weird! You are awesome and so is your dd! You can figure it out to make the most of those gifts and find your way around the challenges.

 

You may want to read about scotopic sensitivity syndrome, aka Irlen Syndrome.

[happybeachbum]

One of the sites from Don Potters site.  http://www.theschoolhouse.us/math.html The visual math dominoes patterns are not really black in white, but the addition with Dominoes patterns are. 

 

I just found this site while googling up math appreciation courses http://www.dyscalculia.org/accessibility/math-appreciation

Edited September 26, 2016 by happybeachbum