Kathie in VA Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Wow! I priced SM at Rainbow Resource and it adds up to $221.40 for one year! Am I getting it right? SM PM Standards grade 1 A&B: TE, HIG, txt, wkbk, IP, cwp, tests (48*2)+(17*2)+(8.45*2)+(8.45*2)+(8.45*2)+9.5+(15.6*2) :confused: Sounds pricey to me, then again I've been using Mastering Mathematics which is $130 but covers almost 8 years of math! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 We only buy the textbook and workbooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 What's the TE? For 1st grade I do not use the HIGs or the tests. You know how your 1st grader is doing without a test. ;) You also only really need the IP if you have an advanced child who wants/needs extra challenge. It's usually used a half level behind where you are in the text/wkbk. I have the texts, workbooks, and the IPs because I do have a child who needs challenge. That's it. I got most of them used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Shop on eBay. I got all my 2a and b books for les than $60. Brand new. Text, wbk, hig, cwp, and ip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I think that's the Teacher Edition. The HIG are way cheaper and more geared for home anyway. Ah, got it. Definitely don't need that for homeschooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicksMama-Zack's Mama Too Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 We only buy the textbook and workbook. :iagree: I didn't use the HIG until SM5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 :iagree: I didn't use the HIG until SM5... That's when I started using my husband, the math teacher, for the problems I had trouble explaining/doing :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I would not fail to use the HIGs to save a few bucks. They add a great deal to the Singapore Math program. It is very important to lay a good math foundation fom the outset, including Levels 1A/1B. The Standards Edition HIGs are really good (the reputation of the US Edition ones are far less good). Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Martin Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The Standards Edition HIGs are really good (the reputation of the US Edition ones are far less good). What is the difference between these? I have the U.S. Edition, and I just looked at this Standards Edition sample to compare, (http://www.singaporemath.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/sp_pmstdhig1a3.pdf)but they are identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) What is the difference between these? I have the U.S. Edition, and I just looked at this Standards Edition sample to compare, (http://www.singaporemath.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/sp_pmstdhig1a3.pdf)but they are identical. I can't speak to the lower level HIG's but I have used the U.S. Edition HIG's for 3A/B and the SE HIG's for 4A-5A. At the higher levels at least, the SE HIG's contain quite a bit more explanation and guidance for the parent. The better HIG's were the main reason I switched to the SE. ETA: Here is a sample of the 3A U.S. Ed. HIG. Here is a sample of the 3A SE HIG. Edited August 7, 2011 by Crimson Wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarreymere Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 This is why I went back to MM. Those little books add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 We only buy the textbook and workbooks. Instead of getting the HIG, play with the math yourself, and ask for ideas here. You don't need the tests. You don't need the EP unless you can't think up extra problems for a white board. The longer I use SM, the less I get. It comes down to the teacher. (I have found an extra book or two motivates my son to pay attention, as in, "if you don't get this by the end of the week, we'll have to do some Mammoth Math on the subject". This gets him 90% of the time. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennynd Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 txt, wkbk, IP, cwp this is quite enough. I will even drop either IP or CWP. it is only 1st grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy_kid_wrangler04 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I only buy the workbooks, textbooks, HIG and either IP or EP. I do not buy the tests (there are plenty of reviews that I use as the test) I buy as much as I can used (you would be surprised how good of condition they are!!) To buy both the HIG and TE would be pointless and from what I have heard the TE is geared more towards a classroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The HIG has the mental math in it. For the lower levels you can do it on your own, but my 2a book has sime great addition table problems to review. I am really good at math and dont need the help to teach concepts, but there are some good activities as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 it is only 1st grade :iagree: Unless your child is especially seat-work oriented, I'd work on card games, matching games, math facts bingo, math facts go-fish, manipulatives, real life math, etc. more than extra books! Have fun!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 What is the difference between these? I have the U.S. Edition, and I just looked at this Standards Edition sample to compare, (http://www.singaporemath.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/sp_pmstdhig1a3.pdf)but they are identical. My understanding is the Level One HIGs are most similar of the US Edition to the SE HIGs based on comments by the author of the HIGs (Jenny Horst). She has said the rest of the SE HIGs are a substantial improvement over the US Edition versions and that is what users here have corroborated. I have only seen the SE versions myself. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeaganS Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I got the U.S. edition HIG and Textbooks for 1A and 1B on paperback swap. I figured that cost right around $10 for shipping (to get the credits), and that's it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathie in VA Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 Thanks everyone for all your feedback. I knew about the Teacher's Guide not being needed if you get the HIG but for some reason I thought I saw a Teacher's Edition in addition to the Teacher's Guide... ack. I know the IP, CWP, and tests are not needed but in order for me to really know if I want to continue with SM, I thought I might want all of these. (Although maybe I'll just get the tests for the second half of the year...hmm) Now I have the RightStart Abacus, Activities for the Abacus, and RS Games (which I still need to learn how to use more than one game). Are there any Singapore manipulatives that I should also get? TIA, Kathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Thanks everyone for all your feedback. I knew about the Teacher's Guide not being needed if you get the HIG but for some reason I thought I saw a Teacher's Edition in addition to the Teacher's Guide... ack. I know the IP, CWP, and tests are not needed but in order for me to really know if I want to continue with SM, I thought I might want all of these. (Although maybe I'll just get the tests for the second half of the year...hmm) Now I have the RightStart Abacus, Activities for the Abacus, and RS Games (which I still need to learn how to use more than one game). Are there any Singapore manipulatives that I should also get? TIA, Kathie The Standards Edition HIGs primarily use Linking Cubes/Unifix Cubes. I really wish they had used Cuisenaire Rods instead. Any of the activities in the HIGs can be transposed to C Rods easily, but Linking Rods are what they use. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Are there any Singapore manipulatives that I should also get? TIA, Kathie I used unifix cubes, ones "tofus" (my son's name for them) - 10 bars and 100 flats with a place value mat (it was a stack of tearable-offable ones, and you could write on them and move your pieces. I got some three dimensional geometric shapes just to learn the names, some place value dice, and then the cards with 0-10 dots on them. My son was not very interested in manipulatives. I also got the place value "arrows" up to 1000, but only used the 1, 10, and 100 the first year. Oh and a nice, big, wooden, clacky, colorful abacus from IKEA (via good will). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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