pqr Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I doubt anyone would doubt how I feel about Fred Phelps and Westboro, but I think the Supreme Court made the right ruling. Bill It tears me up but I too think the ruling was correct. Repugnant as those swine are, the right of free speech must be protected. Now the second they set foot on private land then arrest them for trespass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It tears me up but I too think the ruling was correct. Repugnant as those swine are, the right of free speech must be protected. Now the second they set foot on private land then arrest them for trespass. Am I the only one to notice that we've been in an almost constant state of agreement lately? :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Am I the only one to notice that we've been in an almost constant state of agreement lately? :D Bill Glad to see you are coming around. :-) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Glad to see you are coming around. :-) :lol: :rofl::willy_nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaSheep Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Maybe the location of the demonstration would be a reasonable thing to limit? Not at someone's home; not at places of worship. That would be nice. I know a lot of LDS people who would love to go to general conference or a temple open house without the picketers. I think they can't go on private property, as someone else said, and some places have laws about how close you can get on public property too. I think some cities even have protest 'zones', at least for large events that draw protesters. It seems to me that some people might be able to make a legitimate defamation case against the Westboro people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 From my understanding of press report the father at the center of the case (mercifully) never saw the picketers from WBC at the funeral and was aware of them only after seeing footage on television news broadcasts. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Maybe the location of the demonstration would be a reasonable thing to limit? Not at someone's home; not at places of worship. I thought they'd already done that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'd like to see them met by about 10,000 completely naked and laughing people. Eat a lot of beans. Pass gas in their direction. Perhaps public sex. How about naked cops having sex? But seriously, I think we all ought to pretend they are not there. Absolutely everyone should just act as if they are invisible. No mention of them on the 'net, take down the wikipedia entry, no protesters, everyone at the funeral walk about their business as if there is a blank on the map where they are standing. This fire needs lack of O2. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooblink Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'd like to see them met by about 10,000 completely naked and laughing people. Eat a lot of beans. Pass gas in their direction. Perhaps public sex. How about naked cops having sex? But seriously, I think we all ought to pretend they are not there. Absolutely everyone should just act as if they are invisible. No mention of them on the 'net, take down the wikipedia entry, no protesters, everyone at the funeral walk about their business as if there is a blank on the map where they are standing. This fire needs lack of O2. IMO. :iagree: I am *relieved* the Supreme Court ruled according to the law, rather than emotion. I am sorry and sickened that there are groups like WBC. I agree with the above, though, they should be given NO media attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueLobsters Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I think they need to be ignored. No press, no attention when they show up. And as far as calling themselves Christians? Yeah. I stood in my garage this morning. I'm a car. :lol::iagree::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoMom Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 It tears me up but I too think the ruling was correct. Repugnant as those swine are, the right of free speech must be protected. Now the second they set foot on private land then arrest them for trespass. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dominion Heather Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 My mom's husband rides with the Partiot Guard. They are good guys and women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinF Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 There is a group of bikers (mentioned earlier in this thread) that pretty much does this. They go to military funerals that WBC plans to attend, surround the area of the funeral to keep WBC away, and (from what I understand) will even hold up flags as a barrier so the family does not have to see the protesters. My mom's husband rides with the Partiot Guard. They are good guys and women. I just read about this, & I've been thinking... The best solution *I* see, offhand, is to picket their picketing. If nothing else, to show support for the grieving family. Maybe messages could be ones of condolence, not aimed at Westboro at all. Maybe there wouldn't be enough room for everybody. Maybe Westboro would get pushed back a little further. Maybe the families wouldn't have to *see* them at the funeral. It's the best I can come up with. (Well, that's not true. It's the best *legal* option I can come up with!) We have friends that ride with the Patriot Guards and you don't have to "ride" to stand with the guard at the cemetary or other public place. We plan to take our boys the next time there is a need locally. The Guard is a great group of men and women that protect and shield the grieving families. If you haven't seen them go to youtube and look at the videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee in NC Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 We have friends that ride with the Patriot Guards and you don't have to "ride" to stand with the guard at the cemetary or other public place. We plan to take our boys the next time there is a need locally. The Guard is a great group of men and women that protect and shield the grieving families. If you haven't seen them go to youtube and look at the videos. I just went and watched some videos on Youtube. What an awesome country we live in! We agree that speech is free, yet some citizens take it upon themselves to shield some from other's hateful speech. That does more than any law ever would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcyB Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 :iagree: I am *relieved* the Supreme Court ruled according to the law, rather than emotion. I am sorry and sickened that there are groups like WBC. I agree with the above, though, they should be given NO media attention. but..but..but..what about the ratings with sensational stories we can wring until out for the biggest buck? While I'm a fan of free enterprise in a big way - as long as people view this kind of sensationalism in our news, getting no media attention is NEVER going to happen. When people quit watching, they'll stop covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Freedom of speech should apply to all or none. Even if someone is using their freedom to express something disgusting or disturbing, unless they are committing a crime, they have the same freedom we do. We should be cautious in our desire to remove freedoms from people we find despicable, lest we remove our own freedoms in the process. WBC is a terrible group. No doubt. They're also American citizens, with certain rights that must be respected. :iagree: Don't rule out the effect that dueling had in maintaining public civility. And I also agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 American History trivia question (no Googling). What American President (prior to being elected) killed a man in a duel? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Seems to me these people tried to get up here (Canada) one time and weren't even allowed across the border or something. We've got hate speech laws and you can't just run around here doing what those folks do. I googled - every article that I can find talks about their PLAN to come up here and picket the funeral of the young man who was killed on the greyhound bus, but that the border guards were watching out for them and that they would not be allowed into Canada. It looks like the picket didn't materialize, despite their arrogance that they'd pull it off, because I can't find anything that says they got away with it. Here's a quote from one of our government fellas: Winnipeg NDP MP Pat Martin said the group should be "sent packing," and should not try to show up in Winnipeg "for their own safety." "We're not going to allow these people to compound the tragedy of the McLean family loss, and Canadians simply won't tolerate these lunatics disrupting what should be a respectful service," he told CBC News on Friday. "Your freedom to swing your arm in the air ends when it touches the end of my nose," he added. "What these people were going to do was hurtful, harmful and disruptive to the peace, order and good government that we guarantee to our citizens, so they have no place in this country." From what I see online, the UK banned them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 American History trivia question (no Googling). What American President (prior to being elected) killed a man in a duel? Bill Andrew Jackson, my least favorite president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Andrew Jackson, my least favorite president. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Good for Canada! Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mejane Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I'd like to see them met by about 10,000 completely naked and laughing people. Eat a lot of beans. Pass gas in their direction. Perhaps public sex. How about naked cops having sex? I like the way you think! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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