mo2 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 How do you use these books? Do you just have your students read, or do you read aloud? Are there worksheets, quizzes, that sort of thing? And what age level? Amazon says 6th through 10th. Do you find that to be about right? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraGB Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Just bumping for you because I had never heard of these before now and I'm curious, too.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangato3 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 There are both teaching guides and student guides for each of the books, which Amazon.com sells. The teaching guides are very thorough with background information, discussion questions, chapter tests, suggestions for research, writing, and related literature. There are also student reproducibles in the teacher guide (one per chapter). The student guides have independent work for each chapter. They include covering the main people and dates, vocabulary work, lots of comprehension type skills (e.g. cause/effect, fact vs opinion, drawing conclusions), working with primary sources, sometimes map skills. All answers are in the teaching guide. Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I am having trouble with amazon. Anyone care to link the pages for these books and accessories? I would love to peek at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I am having trouble with amazon. Anyone care to link the pages for these books and accessories? I would love to peek at them. These books are being discussed here (see links in the thread). Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amira Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 We used the Ancient set this year. We read a chapter a day and outlined, and discussed the books, but we didn't get the student and teacher guides (they're pretty expensive). We'll use the Medieval and Early Modern set for the next two years. I can't recommend these books highly enough. My boys learned a lot with them and I enjoyed reading them too (although we all thought the ancient China book was a bit dry). I've been looking ahead to the Medieval books and have been very impressed again. For example, I've never seen a book geared for children/teens that covers Sufism as well as this set does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Thanks all who replied. What ages are you using them with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I think most are middle school aged kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangato3 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I am having trouble with amazon. Anyone care to link the pages for these books and accessories? I would love to peek at them. student guide link: http://www.amazon.com/Student-Study-Guide-Ancient-Greek/dp/0195221605/ref=pd_sim_b_1#_ Teaching guide link (but doesn't offer option to look inside): http://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Guide-Ancient-Greek-World/dp/0195178947/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279593461&sr=1-1 Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keptwoman Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Oh man, the student and teacher guides sound wonderful. My drooling has turned to full blown LUST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Oh man, the student and teacher guides sound wonderful. My drooling has turned to full blown LUST! They are both well done, but there is more work there than one can possibly cover. There are something like 8 books not including the resource volume in the Ancient series. So that gives you only 4-5 weeks max per book unless you school year round. Each book has around 25 chapters. They aren't long but they are loaded with information. While they are more expensive, if I had to chose one of the resources, I would go with the teacher's guide. Where they will help you is in teaching concepts like the various graphic organizers or determining fact from fiction. They are as much about teaching skills that home schoolers sometimes overlook as they are about teaching content. You could also save yourself some money and just read and discuss. Either way, you will have plenty of work. The guides just give you some concrete output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 They are both well done, but there is more work there than one can possibly cover. There are something like 8 books not including the resource volume in the Ancient series. So that gives you only 4-5 weeks max per book unless you school year round. Each book has around 25 chapters. They aren't long but they are loaded with information. While they are more expensive, if I had to chose one of the resources, I would go with the teacher's guide. Where they will help you is in teaching concepts like the various graphic organizers or determining fact from fiction. They are as much about teaching skills that home schoolers sometimes overlook as they are about teaching content. You could also save yourself some money and just read and discuss. Either way, you will have plenty of work. The guides just give you some concrete output. :iagree: that if you have to go with one, go with the teacher's guides. I haven't seen them, but from Lisa's description, they sound useful. I do have a couple of student guides that I got to check out, and I was completely underwhelmed - very thin, and almost exclusively fill-in-the-blank questions. Sounds like the teacher's guides are where the meat are. I'm using the Oxford books as supplements to K12HO and I'm using the teacher/student guides from the K12 program rather than the Oxford (ends up being much cheaper - I only had to buy a student/teacher guide for one book rather than 6-8 books for a year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I agree that trying to use all the teacher guides would be overkill. I bought the Asian World to use this fall as part of our Asian Studies. I did buy the teacher guide and it has some good tips, lots of stuff for classroom use. In the teaching books each chapter has a short section for: chapter summary performance objectives building background vocabulary working with primary sources reading comprehension questions critical thinking questions social sciences reading and language arts writing supporting learning extended learning There are sidebar commentaries with: cast of characters then and now linking disciplines literature connection literacy tips Then there are blackline masters for a worksheet, primary source worksheet, and a chapter test. There is also an area for group projects and a section of blank graphic organizers. IMO, if you were going to go into depth into one area it might be worth buying the TG for that book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keptwoman Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks everyone :) Lots to think about. My count is 7 book in the series plus the source book, is that right? Early Human Egypt Greece Rome Near Asia South Asia China Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Uhura Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I talked to my librarian about the set and told her how great they are and that there is only a single set in all of our entire library system. She said to give the info to the desk and they'll look into it. Last time I did that, the book I gave them was then on the shelf w/in 3 weeks!!! Keep your fingers crossed. At my library, I get 3 month check out time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks everyone :) Lots to think about.My count is 7 book in the series plus the source book, is that right? Early Human Egypt Greece Rome Near Asia South Asia China Is that right? Almost... there's one more, Ancient America - exact titles are: The Early Human World The Ancient Near Eastern World The Ancient Egyptian World The Ancient South Asian World The Ancient Chinese World The Ancient Greek World The Ancient Roman World The Ancient American World And of course the Primary Source and Reference Volume for the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keptwoman Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Of course! Thanks for that :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) I'm using the Oxford books as supplements to K12HO and I'm using the teacher/student guides from the K12 program rather than the Oxford (ends up being much cheaper - I only had to buy a student/teacher guide for one book rather than 6-8 books for a year). Wow, I think I'm officially a history junkie. I was reading your post the other day...I just bought the K12HO with the student/teacher guides. I happened to be talking to K12 about something else and realized that I can get the 15% off. I really need to quit reading these threads.:tongue_smilie:I guess I could look at it as saving me money, $102 compared to $30 for each guide with the oxford books. :D Edited July 24, 2010 by melmichigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I agree that trying to use all the teacher guides would be overkill. I bought the Asian World to use this fall as part of our Asian Studies. I did buy the teacher guide and it has some good tips, lots of stuff for classroom use. In the teaching books each chapter has a short section for: chapter summary performance objectives building background vocabulary working with primary sources reading comprehension questions critical thinking questions social sciences reading and language arts writing supporting learning extended learning There are sidebar commentaries with: cast of characters then and now linking disciplines literature connection literacy tips Then there are blackline masters for a worksheet, primary source worksheet, and a chapter test. There is also an area for group projects and a section of blank graphic organizers. IMO, if you were going to go into depth into one area it might be worth buying the TG for that book. Update! How are you liking this book? :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Update! How are you liking this book? :bigear: Honestly we have started it yet. :lol: It's in the line up for this year, but we are woefully behind and still in Ancient China. I saw your question and would love to answer it more completely. I did preview several of the other books at the library and I like the layout. We have not used them so I can't speak to their effectiveness for us, but they seem to be one of the more promising options for logic stage history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snickerdoodle Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I want the ancient set to go on sale. We will notify each other if we happen to notice it, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Honestly we have started it yet. :lol: It's in the line up for this year, but we are woefully behind and still in Ancient China. I saw your question and would love to answer it more completely. I did preview several of the other books at the library and I like the layout. We have not used them so I can't speak to their effectiveness for us, but they seem to be one of the more promising options for logic stage history. Oh. Bummer. Sorry to call you out on it & everything, though. :lol: My Amazon finger's getting itchy. I really need to just back away from the computer. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I want the ancient set to go on sale. We will notify each other if we happen to notice it, right? I KNOW!!! It's not available through amazon prime shipping. No idea why. Whoever sees it should post a new thread with a CLEAR note! (I want the set.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I use them selectivly. For the ancient history we have used (are using) Egypt, Greece and Rome. Those are the cultures my son finds the most interesting and will happily do the extra reading. There is just no way I could get through all of them in a school year. FWIW, he really likes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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