:bigear: I know this is still a year and a half away for us....I too am planning to use The Elements, but I'm not sure what to do for the remainder of the year..my children will be 4th & 5th when we do this..I was thinking I would also incorporate The Wonder of Chemistry (free). I'm also contemplating adding Exploring the World of Chemistry: From Ancient Metals to High Speed Computers by John Tiner.

Yes, these are the read alone ages. I think many could be done about 2 years earlier, if used as a read aloud.

When I originally posted these suggestions, I didn't realize the original poster was looking for the "history" of science in story format. I thought she was looking for science in story format...my oops. Anyway here are the age ranges for my recommendations for public domain literature-based science: ages 9-11 The Story Book of Science:The wonders of plant and animal life told with rare literary charm by Uncle Paul ages 10- 12 The Secret of Everyday Things ages 11- 14 The Wonder Book of Chemistry age 12 The sciences: a reading book for children : astronomy, physics--heat, light, sound, electricity, magnetism--chemistry, physiography, meteorology by Edward Singleton Holden

We have enjoyed the Apologia Elementary Science Series for Astronomy & Botany. There is a free classic, which has many science topics, The Story Book of Science:The wonders of plant and animal life told with rare literary charm by Uncle Paul in conversations with three children. Besides such stories as the ants' subterranean city, the spider's suspension bridge, and the caterpillars' processing, he unlocks the mystery behind thunder and lightning, clouds and rain, the year and its seasons, and volcanoes and earthquakes. http://www.archive.org/details/storybookscienc00bickgoog Another free classic by the same author: The Secret of Everyday Things Fascinating conversations with Uncle Paul reveal the mysteries behind the dyeing and weaving of cloth, the lighting and heating of homes, the processing involved in bringing oil, coffee, tea, spices, and other foodstuffs to the table, and the power of water in all its manifestations. Excellent as follow-on to The Story Book of Science http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=fabre&book=everyday&story=_contents Then for chemistry try this free-classic book, The Wonder Book of Chemistry: Starting with a mixture of iron filings and sulphur, Uncle Paul awakens in his young nephews an eagerness to learn more about the properties of the elements. Through a series of carefully-devised experiments and conversations about the experiments, he leads the boys to an understanding of some of the basic principles of chemistry. Excellent as a follow-on to 'The Story Book of Science' and 'The Secret of Everyday Things' by the same author http://www.archive.org/details/wonderbookofchem00fabr (We plan on using The Wonder Book of Chemistry with Ellen McHenry's The Elements.) Here is a great find...free on google books: The sciences: a reading book for children : astronomy, physics--heat, light, sound, electricity, magnetism--chemistry, physiography, meteorology by Edward Singleton Holden http://books.google.com/books?id=TP5CAAAAIAAJ&dq=the+sciences+by+holden&source=gbs_navlinks_s

I only have 4 children (two of which are too young for lessons). I would highly recommend you take a look at Teri Maxwell's book "Managers of Their Homes" ---it includes how to manage chores, lessons, family life, etc...They also have further specific books on chores and school....but Managers of Their Homes will give you all the ideas you need for a jumping off point!:D By the way, the Maxwell's have 6 children. Here is the website: http://www.titus2.com/ecommerce/products/prod_listing.php/1100 You can also check out my blog for further ideas for young ones (to preoccupy while older need one-on-one time). You will find the most benefit using the above book...it gave me great insight into daily life and how to get it all done!;) For sample schedules: http://www.titus2.com/d-schedule.htm

I would do either WWE 4 or WT 2, not both; since both are writing programs. Also, I personally think that WWE is a lot more narration heavy than WT. We do narration exercises with our history and science. We selected to do WT 1 this year, instead of WWE 3 since my DD did quite well in WWE 1 & 2, and we both wanted a change. We also do FLL 3 so the little extra grammar practice in WT is nice. We plan on moving onto FLL 4 and WT 2 next year for 4th grade. After which we tentatively plan to do R&S 5 and CW-Homer. From what I was able to tell from the samples a week ago, I think WT does prepare a child well for CW Homer. Also, from previous threads on the same subject of grammar..I understood that FLL 4 prepares a child well for R & S 5. I'm interested in reading what others think :bigear:

We started out with Writing Strands. We also considered WWE 3, but felt it was not what my DD needed. She did quite well with WWE 1 & 2 last year. So now, we do WT's and FLL 3 together. I would not do another writing program...and encourage written narrations for science and history. Regarding dictation, FLL 3 has dictation exercises (almost all the lessons have them as either part of the lesson or optional addtitional exercises for the lesson)...though they are shorter sentences than what is in WWE 3. Have fun...we are enjoying WT!:D (We don't think the small amount of grammar lessons in WT is too much with FLL...on the contrary...it is just right!)

I don't have my physical copy yet...it is in the mail, as my DD will be starting it once it arrives. However, the author of Writing Tales has this under her FAQ's: A: If you attempt the program without the Teacher’s Guide, you’ll be missing about 50% of the entire program. In addition to answers for the Workbook, the Teacher’s Guide also contains two sets of specific day-to-day lesson plans for both one-on-one homeschools and co-op classes, both of which include discussion questions for the stories that are studied, biographical information about the stories’ authors, additional writing exercises and instruction, specific lesson ideas and materials for teaching the grammatical concepts, and grammar games to reinforce the grammar concepts that are taught.

For artist/picture study I highly recommend this free source...it is a link to a FREE Program Manual for "Meet the Masters". (I downloaded it and saved it on my hard drive.) Wonderful ideas, with bio info. of the artists and comparing art works.... http://www.getinvolvedineducation.com/pdfs/For-Program-Managers/Meet-the-Masters-Program-Manual.pdf

This question was asked a couple months back...here is a link to the thread... http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111096&highlight=decimal+street I suggested using the Math-U-See idea of Decimal Street which is shown on their preview video....it is about 8 min. 53 seconds into it Here is the Video: http://www.mathusee.com/demo.html Actual Lesson plan of Decimal Street: http://www.mathusee.com/pdfs/primersample.pdf I don't own Math-U-See, but I borrowed from this idea to show my children Decimal Street. They occassionally ask me to retell the story of "Decimal Street"!

We use Explorer's Bible Study...and use the scripture (KJV) they select for weekly memorization in the Scripture Memory System established by www.SimplyCharlotteMason.com. Here is the direct link: http://simplycharlottemason.com/timesavers/memorysys/ Just so you know, www.SimplyCharlotteMason.com has selected scripture verses for memorization on their website, as well. Here is the direct link: http://simplycharlottemason.com/planning/scmguide/scripture/

I know the art program that is loved by many is called Artistic Pursuits. We love Visual Manna's "Art Basics for Children: The ABC's of Art". We also like Harmony Art Mom. She is full of ideas, inspiration, and motivation!:D I have also looked into Rod & Staff's Art Pac ...you could do grade 3 or do separate grade 2 & 4 programs...very reasonablly priced and simple!

Someone posted about a 1920's living book entitled "Wonder Book of Chemistry"....sounds like that would be a great addition with The Elements. I have bookmarked both for our chemistry curriculum next year!:D

I was just posting on another thread that this would be a great addition to The Elements . Have fun! I love CM style!

:lurk5: Looks very interesting, a living book! Where-ever did you get the recommendation for this gem?

Oh, regarding the Sear's books...he is Christian, and he gives some wonderful recommendations on the inside covers, as well as within the book for welcoming baby. Consider maybe a Blessing God's Way (if you have heard of a Blessingway...it is similar to that, however, focusing on the Lord) http://www.blessinggodsway.com/index.html She has some book recommendations, I don't see any specifically to children, though; but I think you will get some fabulous ideas just viewing her website.

:iagree:I own the two Sears' books and have them in my doula library for client check-out. When I was pregnant my children loved listening and reading from them! If you are having a homebirth (or for natural birthers) there is another book I would recommend, entitled "Welcome With Love" by Jenni Overend...fabulous!:D It is not available on Amazon, well it is...it is just too overpriced...look elsewhere. It is originally from Australia!

Here are the references to my above post about Type I Diabetes, Dairy, and Gluten: References: 1. Goldfarb MF. Relation of time of introduction of cow milk protein to an infant and risk of type-1 diabetes mellitus. J Proteome Res. 2008 May;7(5):2165-7. 2. Vaarala O. Is it dietary insulin? Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2006 Oct;1079:350-9. 3. Mäkelä M, Vaarala O, Hermann R, Salminen K, Vahlberg T, Veijola R, Hyöty H, Knip M, Simell O, Ilonen J. Enteral virus infections in early childhood and an enhanced type 1 diabetes-associated antibody response to dietary insulin. J Autoimmun. 2006 Aug;27(1):54-61. Epub 2006 Jun 6. 4. Karjalainen J, Martin JM, Knip M, Ilonen J, Robinson BH, Savilahti E, Akerblom HK, Dosch HM. A bovine albumin peptide as a possible trigger of insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus. N Engl J Med. 1992 Jul 30;327(5):302-7. 5. Pérez-Bravo F, Oyarzún A, Carrasco E, Albala C, Dorman JS, Santos JL. Duration of breast feeding and bovine serum albumin antibody levels in type 1 diabetes: a case-control study. Pediatr Diabetes. 2003 Dec;4(4):157-61. 6. Banwell B, Bar-Or A, Cheung R, Kennedy J, Krupp LB, Becker DJ, Dosch HM; Wadsworth Pediatric Multiple Sclerosis Study Group. Abnormal T-cell reactivities in childhood inflammatory demyelinating disease and type 1 diabetes. Ann Neurol. 2008 Jan;63(1):98-111. 7. Kaminski S, Cieslinska A, Kostyra E. Polymorphism of bovine beta-casein and its potential effect on human health. J Appl Genet. 2007;48(3):189-98. 8. McGough N, Cummings JH. Coeliac disease: a diverse clinical syndrome caused by intolerance of wheat, barley and rye. Proc Nutr Soc. 2005 Nov;64(4):434-50. 9. Banin P, Perretta R, Ravaioli E, De Sanctis V. Regression of autoimmunity and abnormal glucose homeostasis in an adolescent boy with silent celiac disease. Acta Paediatr 2002;91:1141-3. 10. Hoorfar J, Buschard K, Dagnaes-Hansen F. Prophylactic nutritional modification of the incidence of diabetes in autoimmune non-obese diabetic (NOD) mice. Br J Nutr. 1993 Mar;69(2):597-607. 11. Scott FW. Food-induced type 1 diabetes in the BB rat. Diabetes Metab Rev 1996;12:341-59. 12. Schmid S, Koczwara K, Schwinghammer S, Lampasona V, Ziegler AG, Bonifacio E. Delayed exposure to wheat and barley proteins reduces diabetes incidence in non-obese diabetic mice. Clin Immunol. 2004 Apr;111(1):108-18. 13. Pastore M-R, Bazzigaluppi E, Belloni C, Arcovio C, Bonifacio E, Bosi E. Six months of gluten-free diet do not influence antibody titers, but improve insulin secretion in subjects at high risk for type 1 diabetes. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2003;88:162-5. 14. Drago S, El Asmar R, Di Pierro M, et al. Gliadin, zonulin and gut permeability: Effects on celiac and non-celiac intestinal mucosa and intestinal cell lines. Scandinavian journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(4):408-19. 15. Meddings JB, Jarand J, Urbanski SJ, Hardin J, Gall DG. Increased gastrointestinal permeability is an early lesion in the spontaneously diabetic BB rat. Am J Physiol. 1999 Apr;276(4 Pt 1):G951-7. 16. Watts T, Berti I, Sapone A, Gerarduzzi T, Not T, Zielke R, Fasano A. Role of the intestinal tight junction modulator zonulin in the pathogenesis of type I diabetes in BB diabetic-prone rats. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2005 Feb 22;102(8):2916-21. 17. Neu J, Reverte CM, Mackey AD, Liboni K, Tuhacek-Tenace LM, Hatch M, Li N, Caicedo RA, Schatz DA, Atkinson M. Changes in intestinal morphology and permeability in the biobreeding rat before the onset of type 1 diabetes. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr. 2005 May;40(5):589-95. 18. Sapone A, de Magistris L, Pietzak M, Clemente MG, Tripathi A, Cucca F, Lampis R, Kryszak D, Cartenì M, Generoso M, Iafusco D, Prisco F, Laghi F, Riegler G, Carratu R, Counts D, Fasano A. Zonulin upregulation is associated with increased gut permeability in subjects with type 1 diabetes and their relatives. Diabetes. 2006 May;55(5):1443-9. 19. Bosi E, Molteni L, Radaelli MG, Folini L, Fermo I, Bazzigaluppi E, Piemonti L, Pastore MR, Paroni R. Increased intestinal permeability precedes clinical onset of type 1 diabetes. Diabetologia. 2006 Dec;49(12):2824-7. 20. Vaarala O. Leaking gut in type 1 diabetes. Curr Opin Gastroenterol. 2008 Nov;24(6):701-6. 21. Norris JM, Yin X, Lamb MM, Barriga K, Seifert J, Hoffman M, Orton HD, Barón AE, Clare-Salzler M, Chase HP, Szabo NJ, Erlich H, Eisenbarth GS, Rewers M. Omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid intake and islet autoimmunity in children at increased risk for type 1 diabetes. JAMA. 2007 Sep 26;298(12):1420-8. 22. Hypponen E, Laara E, Reunanen A, Jarvelin M-R, Virtanen SM. Intake of vitamin D and risk of type 1 diabetes: a birthcohort study. Lancet 2001;358:1500-3.

:grouphug:To you and your family. My husband and his family are type I diabetics (20+ years)...they just recently found out they are Celiacs as well (gluten intolerant...wheat, barley, oats). The Endocrinologists are finally testing all type I diabetics for celiac disease...they are closely linked! Here is some great info. I received the other day (I'm always watching out for my children). It is about dairy and gluten containing grains and the effect on our body (specifically for diabetics)! Type 1 Diabetes and the Paleo Diet by Pedro Bastos We believe that the autoimmune disease type 1 diabetes (T1D) may be preventable through diet if caught early enough. This seems reasonable because it typically takes some time for the complete destruction of beta cells, which make and release the hormone insulin that controls the level of glucose in the blood. The following report from Michelle is very interesting because some type 1 diabetics are "brittle." In other words, the beta cells are completely destroyed and cannot produce insulin. Diabetes becomes apparent when 80-90% of the beta cells have been destroyed. In Michelle’s case, there may have been sufficient function in some residual cells that were allowed to regain function when the change in diet halted the autoimmune response. Here's Michelle's experience and you can follow her progress on her blog. "I'm a type 1 diabetic and have been on the Paleo Diet for 7 months. After weeks of going Paleo, my insulin needs dropped dramatically, and after 6 months, I quit taking insulin altogether! The Paleo Diet is a miracle for autoimmune type 1 diabetes! My Blog: http://michellestype1diabetes.blogspot.com/ Michelle Dairy and Diabetes Eliminating dairy, as Michelle did by following the Paleo Diet, may remove potential proteins found in cow’s milk that may be involved in T1D, such as: Beta (ß)-lactoglobulin (BLG) BLG is a protein found in the whey portion of cow’s milk (but not in the whey of human’s milk) that has structural homology with the human protein glycodelin, which is responsible for the modulation of T-lymphocytes1. This means that BLG could generate antibodies to glycodelin, and indirectly lead to autoimmunity in genetically susceptible children1, especially if introduced early in life when there is increased intestinal permeability1, 2. Bovine insulin (BI) Cow’s milk, human’s milk, and presumably milk from all mammals contain insulin2. Immunity to BI is common in children who consume cow’s milk or who have been exposed to infant formulas containing cow’s milk2. Because BI differs from human insulin by only three amino acids, it can generate antibodies against human insulin in genetically susceptible individuals with increased intestinal permeability and other gut dysfunctions2 and/or enteral virus infections in their early years2, 3. Bovine serum albumin (BSA) This is another protein in cow’s milk that doesn’t exist in human’s milk. Antibodies against a specific peptide in BSA, called ABBOS, have been found repeatedly in the majority of patients with T1D4-6. This is relevant because there is molecular mimicry between the peptide ABBOS and a beta-cell surface protein p694, one of the autoantigens attacked by T cells in T1D patients. Peptide beta (ß)-casomorphin 7 (BCM-7) BCM-7 results from the breakdown of proteins into peptides and amino acids during digestion of the A1 variant of bovine ß-casein7. Since this peptide has opiate-like activity7, it could “influence the development of gut-associated immune tolerance, or suppress defence mechanisms towards enteroviruses, both of which have been implicated in the aetiology of diabetes mellitus type 1â€7. Grain and diabetes By following the Paleo Diet, Michelle also eliminated grains that include gluten (wheat, rye, barley and oats). Gluten is a well-known environmental trigger of another autoimmune disease frequently associated with T1D called celiac disease8. There is an interesting report in medical literature of an adolescent, who had abnormal blood glucose and insulin levels, testing positive for islet cell auto-antibodies (a marker of T1D development) and celiac disease. After following a gluten-free diet for 6 months, the adolescent became islet cell auto-antibody negative, and presented normal glycemia (glucose in the blood) and insulinemia (insulin in the blood).9 It is also known that diabetes progresses faster in rats when gluten is included in their diet early in life10, 11. One research study reported that: "Diabetes onset was delayed and diabetes incidence was significantly reduced in female mice that received the wheat and barley protein-free diet throughout life"12. Similarly, a gluten-free diet in people with a high risk for T1D led to significant improvements in their insulin response during a glucose tolerance test13. The main reason why gluten may be involved in T1D (and other auto-immune diseases), and why celiac disease is normally associated with other autoimmune diseases involves one of the proteins in gluten - gliadin. Gliadin up regulates zonulin14 (a protein expressed in gut tissue), thereby increasing gut permeability (not only in celiac patients, but also in “normalsâ€)14, which is a very important factor underlying T1D2,15-20. Other factors involved in increased intestinal permeability As readers are aware, there are other dietary factors in Neolithic foods that can increase intestinal permeability. This includes lectins (present in legumes and grains), saponins (found in legumes, potatoes, peppers, alfalfa sprouts, root beer, quinoa and amaranth), and alcohol. Fatty acids, vitamin D and diabetes In addition to eliminating dairy and gluten, the Paleo Diet may help stop beta cell destruction by correcting the omega-6/omega-3 ratio21. We also recommend that people optimize their vitamin D status by getting enough sunlight or with supplements. This may also help to halt beta cell destruction and prevent the development of T1D22. References (on my next post)

I have a further question...I accepted their book then agreed to a Bible study for a bit (I was interested in finding out more about why they believe what they do.) Anyway, then I accepted some children's books from them. I'm now getting phone calls from them, as well...sometimes 2 a day. I'm just drowning...what do I do now....I really should have done the above recommendations immediately, but I didn't want to be rude. AAAHHHH!:confused: Do I give the books back? Pay for them? I think I'm just scared of the confrontation! (But they must be used to it...right?)

WWE level 1 does not have dictation, only copywork and narration. If her copywork and narration are good...I would tend to think she should stay in WWE Level 2...you could go at a slower pace with the dictation. This is what SWB recommends with starting dictation: After repeating the sentence twice, have her repeat it back once before starting to write...As she writes if she forgets....you can repeat it to her again, but first ask her to repeat what she has written down so far and see if she remembers it. (You can continue this procedure throughout this level.) Make sure that she repeats the sentence before writing, once again. Really you are helping her to learn to do active listening. If you are not sure if she should be in WWE level 2, just do the level 1 evaluation exercises in the textbook...it evaluates both copywork and narration skills.

The WWE 3 six weeks worth of samples are on the homepage of www.welltrainedmind.com, way at the bottom.;)

I posted this on the curriculum board, but thought I would post a thread in the general board, as well! Some encouragement for you and all homeschool moms. I like to read these every year (or more) as a reminder: 55 Reasons to Homeschool: http://www.waldsfe.org/Humor/55reasons.htm I revisit the short video at www.raisingsmallsouls.com entitled Animal School. For all those who care about children.....inspirational and moving short film. Two of my favorite quotes about motherhood/staying at home: "A hundred years from now ...it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove... ...but the world may be different because I was important in the life of a child". excerpt from "Within My Power" by Forest Witcraft "May your home be clean enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be happy" Unknown found in "Mothering magazine's Natural Family Living" book Also, some of my favorite poems about motherhood and staying at home: If I had my child to raise all over again If I had my child to raise all over again, I’d finger paint more, and point the finger less. I’d do less correcting, and more connecting. I’d take my eyes off my watch, and watch with my eyes. I would care to know less, and know to care more. I’d take more hikes and fly more kites. I’d stop playing serious, and seriously play. I’d run through more fields, and gaze at more stars. I’d do more hugging, and less tugging. I would be firm less often, and affirm much more. I’d build self esteem first, and the house later. I’d teach less about the love of power, and more about the power of love. by Diane Loomans Excuse This House! Some houses try to hide the fact that children shelter there. Ours boasts of it quite openly, the signs are everywhere! For smears are on the windows and little smudges are on the door. I should apologize, I guess, for the toys strewn on the floor. But I sat down with the children and we played and laughed and read; and if the doorbell doesn’t shine, their eyes will shine instead. For when at times I’m forced to choose the one job or the other . . . I want to be a housewife - but first I’ll be a mother! Poem found at Mothering.com by unknown

I posted this as a reply to a thread, but thought others may want to read it as well! Some encouragement for you and all homeschool moms. I like to read these every year (or more) as a reminder: 55 Reasons to Homeschool: http://www.waldsfe.org/Humor/55reasons.htm I revisit the short video at www.raisingsmallsouls.com entitled Animal School. For all those who care about children.....inspirational and moving short film. Two of my favorite quotes about motherhood/staying at home: "A hundred years from now ...it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove... ...but the world may be different because I was important in the life of a child". excerpt from "Within My Power" by Forest Witcraft "May your home be clean enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be happy" Unknown found in "Mothering magazine's Natural Family Living" book Also, some of my favorite poems about motherhood and staying at home: If I had my child to raise all over again If I had my child to raise all over again, I’d finger paint more, and point the finger less. I’d do less correcting, and more connecting. I’d take my eyes off my watch, and watch with my eyes. I would care to know less, and know to care more. I’d take more hikes and fly more kites. I’d stop playing serious, and seriously play. I’d run through more fields, and gaze at more stars. I’d do more hugging, and less tugging. I would be firm less often, and affirm much more. I’d build self esteem first, and the house later. I’d teach less about the love of power, and more about the power of love. by Diane Loomans Excuse This House! Some houses try to hide the fact that children shelter there. Ours boasts of it quite openly, the signs are everywhere! For smears are on the windows and little smudges are on the door. I should apologize, I guess, for the toys strewn on the floor. But I sat down with the children and we played and laughed and read; and if the doorbell doesn’t shine, their eyes will shine instead. For when at times I’m forced to choose the one job or the other . . . I want to be a housewife - but first I’ll be a mother! Poem found at Mothering.com by unknown

Some encouragement for you and all homeschool moms. I like to read these every year (or more) as a reminder: 55 Reasons to Homeschool: http://www.waldsfe.org/Humor/55reasons.htm I revisit the short video at www.raisingsmallsouls.com entitled Animal School. For all those who care about children.....inspirational and moving short film. Two of my favorite quotes about motherhood/staying at home: "A hundred years from now ...it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove... ...but the world may be different because I was important in the life of a child". excerpt from "Within My Power" by Forest Witcraft "May your home be clean enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be happy" Unknown found in "Mothering magazine's Natural Family Living" book Also, some of my favorite poems about motherhood and staying at home: If I had my child to raise all over again If I had my child to raise all over again, I’d finger paint more, and point the finger less. I’d do less correcting, and more connecting. I’d take my eyes off my watch, and watch with my eyes. I would care to know less, and know to care more. I’d take more hikes and fly more kites. I’d stop playing serious, and seriously play. I’d run through more fields, and gaze at more stars. I’d do more hugging, and less tugging. I would be firm less often, and affirm much more. I’d build self esteem first, and the house later. I’d teach less about the love of power, and more about the power of love. by Diane Loomans Excuse This House! Some houses try to hide the fact that children shelter there. Ours boasts of it quite openly, the signs are everywhere! For smears are on the windows and little smudges are on the door. I should apologize, I guess, for the toys strewn on the floor. But I sat down with the children and we played and laughed and read; and if the doorbell doesn’t shine, their eyes will shine instead. For when at times I’m forced to choose the one job or the other . . . I want to be a housewife - but first I’ll be a mother! Poem found at Mothering.com by unknown