One thing I heard from a psychologist about testing is that you test if you have a question to answer. You may or not be aware that some of the talent searches are starting in elementary school now. Johns Hopkins CTY starts in 2nd grade. They take the SCAT until 6th or 7th when they move to ACT/SAT. They've also started with a spatial test in 5th/6th grade. Northwestern NUMATS starts 3rd grade. They use Explore. Duke TIP starts in 4th and uses Explore in 5th. We did the SCAT and Explore to qualify for online courses from CTY and NUMATS. Due to Explore scores, we had an IQ test done to see if our son would qualify for Davidson's Young Scholars program. Without the Explore scores, we didn't have a reason to get an IQ test done. The testing we've had done has been to qualify for programs. I've gotten most information about what he knows and strengths and weaknesses from giving the ITBS at home and seeing specifically what he gets right and wrong. The out-of-level tests (particularly Explore last year) got me to say, yeah, that's at the gifted level & may have given me the validation I needed to make some changes. So think about what questions you'd be getting answered by additional testing. Again, for us, the testing started simply for qualification purposes for online courses and then it led to some additional questions. Right now I'm curious if there was improvement from last year's Explore test, but we won't have results for a month or two (sigh). Good luck with your decisions.

:grouphug: Here's one from Sisyphus & one from me :grouphug:

And the owners are a former homeschooling family! (Kids now grown.) I like Bayside.

Yeah... I emailed them after posting here earlier. My husband was having the same error from his computer at work, so it wasn't just a glitch at our computer. I've had an issue with one problem not showing up right (fine in Firefox, numbers askew in Chrome). Then today couldn't log in at all. Got a reply back from them an hour or so later once they'd corrected it, but the glitch with the CSS alignment is annoying. We'll work on it tomorrow from my computer with the larger monitor and Firefox (which is now installed on the other computer). It was a frustrating day.

I'm not able to have my son log into his EM course. If I go to the elements site, it redirects me to the IMACS site. If I log in there, it gives his scores but says he should be at the EM site, provides a link, that goes to IMACS site. Argh! Anyone else having the same problem? Or can you guys access it? I'm frustrated!

Thanks for the update. I think either solution would work, but I'd prefer to tag the thread. I'll be very pleased if either works though!

:grouphug: Wishing you all the best.

Just thought of Franklin's Autobiography & what about Frederick Douglass's as well.

Updates???? Please????

NUMATS through Northwestern CTY through Johns Hopkins as well :) You don't have to be in their region to participate in talent search or take courses.

You're not. My husband takes our son to visit my parents & I stay at home so I don't have to be there.

Don't know if these are what you're looking for at all, but the coolest autobiographies I've read were in conjunction with the audiobook. Walter Cronkite's A Reporter's Life with the audio version read by him, and Angela's Ashes read by Frank McCourt. I still think of how rich we are in comparison every time I cook eggs.

As a general rule, an elementary math for college course will translate to high school algebra 1. You can also compare the table of contents to a high school course description.

:grouphug: It may be worth attempting to get financial aid for NUMATS. I think about applying for it for some courses to see if we can take them at some point. I also think knowing when we need to make changes for the kids is probably one of the best things we can do... and likely one of the hardest too. I was ready to use an online charter school earlier this year when I couldn't teach my son. Instead, my husband was able to pick up and teach for a while. I'm back to teaching my son again and it's going much smoother than it did in the past. We'll see how long it lasts! :grouphug: Hope the changes work well for you all. Letting go is tough. :grouphug:

Yes. That's one notation. It can also be written dy/dx.

Last I saw on the Singapore Math forums, Jenny said she doesn't have plans for a HiG for 6 Standards. We're moving on after 5B. Either AoPS Prealg/alg or more with Elements of Mathematics.

Yup. "Morning sickness" all through the pregnancy. I'm not sure there were any days I didn't throw up. I did manage not to throw up in public (generally), although I got our bushes a couple of times. Very very very very very glad not to be pregnant. I ate anything that would stay down. Only had major food aversions once or twice. Really bad heartburn - kept bottles of Tums all over the house. And wanted a lot of milk. I'd do a gallon or two on my own in a week. (And my son has a dairy allergy. Phooey. But I doubt it was because of the milk I drank....and even if it was, there's nothing I can do about it at this point!)

About an hour tonight....after about an hour or so earlier doing it by hand. :rolleyes: Some of us control freaks have to double check everything.

Our state has an age cutoff of Sept 1. My son was born August 29. Redshirting wasn't even on my radar when he started school (neither was homeschooling). I did know that full day kindergarten wouldn't be right, so we made an effort to keep him in the private half-day kindergarten where he'd attended 4 yo preschool. He's very bright. If he were in public school he might want to be skipped a grade or two for academics.... but he's also very small for his age - under 10% on the growth charts. We're fairly certain he'll homeschool through high school. We're also talking (ad nauseum on my part) about having him repeat 5th grade this year (record it as another 5th grade, but let it be a basically unschooling year). He's got severe food allergies that it doesn't look like he'll outgrow, and so that makes me want him to have another year before being on his own in a dorm situation. Many people in our state do high school coursework (that appears on transcripts) as early as 7th grade. I would prefer high school to be just 4 years and don't want to have a break in the transcript then. I don't really see a gap year because I don't have any ideas of what he'd do during that time. I really wish I'd have waited a year to start K. None of my options make me really happy, but I'm still leaning towards repeating 5th this year and making the correction now. If he really wants later on, we'll let him skip ahead or graduate early. OP... you can also tag this thread "grade level" and there have been a LOT of other threads with that tag. Some of those conversations may help you. From what I've read on this board, it's kind of mixed, but yes, for some, young-for-their grade boys absolutely works. I keep telling myself our decision will be the right one because it's what we're choosing with the best information we have at the time and the best intentions, but it's tough.

I've had a number of older students in my classes at the cc. I don't know that I've ever been the oldest in the classroom. Years ago I taught a woman in her 50s who had just gotten out of an abusive relationship and was doing things she'd always wanted to do. She was hoping to get into the nursing program. I don't know if she did, but she did well in my class. So many young students now have entitlement issues. I don't see that as much as a rule with the older students. Don't worry about your age - just do your best! If you are going into nursing, acceptance into the programs can be tough. Be sure you read everything on the website about requirements & sometimes there can be ways to get into the program faster. Attend any informational meetings you can so you know what you're getting into. And good luck!

Have you read Deconstructing Penguins? It's got some good ideas for book groups. My memory is it has ideas for how to pick books too.

It's just to the left of quote at the bottom of the post.

I agree strongly with UrbanSue about using IP rather than EP. The EP books don't have much practice and are at the workbook level of challenge. The workbook doesn't have as much practice as the text does in upper levels (we're finishing up 5B now). If I were going absolute bare minimum, I'd have text, IP, CWP. Personally, I also really like the HiG and find the occasional idea I find helpful in teaching - and I teach math at the community college, so it's not like I don't know the material. There's some good stuff in there. The bar model approach was really weird at first, but I think it's amazingly nifty and a great bridge to algebra. (The Heuristic Model books are great for learning about the bar models. Don't know if they've pulled some of that into the new CWP.)

There probably are a lot if I really think about it, but I'd say for Americans, Huck Finn.

I think it can just take starting at the right level...as basic as it needs to be...and then progress. I met a good friend when I TAed for a calc 1 class he was taking. He'd come from a poor high school, took math starting at the lowest possible level at a cc in the country. He was one of 4 A grades out of a calc class of 70! He started at the right level and was motivated. I see students every semester who have 3 or 4 years of math at the high school level...including precalc...who test into developmental math because they just didn't learn the material. So some ideas for your class... You can see where they are and try to fill in blanks (I can almost guarantee fractions and word problems are a gap). I'm not sur what our call the class though.... That's where you might be doing the "basic college math". You could do statistics. A course on set theory or logic. Logic was something I recall students taking to get a quant requirement in college that wasn't math or science :). ALthough logic is math, it was taught by, I think, the philosophy department. You could also check out high school course descriptions. I've looked at local schools some and they have a lot of different names for courses....see if any of the names give you ideas! Good luck!