Well I'm in the mayo is revolting on anything camp (it helps that I'm allergic to eggs so I just blame that when people look at me funny) but even if I wasn't I agree with you that pairing it with delicious pulled pork is abuse ;)

Well, yes it is a discussion forum, but the question asked was if there are other things that dads do that we don't see often that makes them good dads. I guess I see some of the comments in this thread to be coming out of the left field. If I posted a thread asking for recipes for a cake and someone responded with a recipe for soup. Yes they are both food, but that wasn't really what was asked. See what I mean?

I'm honestly mostly baffled by the amount of people who seem to be angry at an article, in the run up to father's day, that shows fathers who love their kids. I also find it strange that people will take the time to be offended/angered by something so basic. But whatever.

I am sorry you seem to be taking this topic so personally. If you read my OP again you will see that I asked for other examples of things good dads do. I hope you have something to contribute from the dad's you know.

I do see it, but not as much as I seen in real life. And I still think I see the bumbling dad more than the competent one

Hi, OP here For me this wasn't about daddy wars but rather the opposit. As the title says it is actually about dads being dads, NOT the blundering bafoons they are often portrayed as being in the media. How often isn't the point of a sitcom the fact that a dad can't put on the diaper. Or in the case of my story, they fall to pieces at the mere thought of a girl having a period. Most dads do most of these things, but we rarely se them do it.

I've worked in a long term facility and my mom is a geriatric nurse specialised in dementia care at a long term care facility. I am now a teacher, who cares deeply for her students, and is learning to keep a professional distance in how much I care, so that is my background :) I do think that if you have the time, it is fine to talk to them about things that family might talk about. An example: I worked Christmas Eve one year, we had an elderly lady whose children came daily to visit, but it was getting on in the day and they had left. It was quiet because many of our residents were away with family for the day, and we didn't have anyone who needed a great deal of care. She needed help to go to the bathroom and when I was helping her back into bed (she was a very large lady and preferred laying in bed) she asked me to help her read all her Christmas cards. I had time, so I sat at her bedside reading her the cards. She really appreciated it and it didn't cost me anything. She died the following summer. I was sad but not devastated. She was old and it was time for her to go. I think as others have said, it is about finding a balance. Yes you are there to help with those physical tasks they can't manage themselves, but if you wish to care for them in a holistic way, you are going to have to listen to their stories and talk to them, that means you will care. I will say that I think it sounds like your colleague has gone to far. She needs to take a step back and evaluate if she is doing more harm then good.

I will say that when I moved home for grad school I did my own laundry most of the time for exactly that reason. My dad does a lot of laundry, and over the years he has learned the value of separating colours but he still hasn't quite understood that different fabrics requires you to read the label. :) My grandfather (born in 1932) actually did a lot of these things too. Anymore he also does almost all the cooking. I am incredibly fortunate in my family, we have always had good rolemodels when it comes to the men. Which might be why I am still single, Way to high standards :P

I am pretty sure mine is trying to rally the coffee maker.

Mine is forever getting stuck under the couch or on some unsuspecting chord. My real first world problem however is when he runs out of battery under the bed...under the middle of the bed where I can't reach him...or when he runs out of battery and is hidden somewhere and I can't find him.

Awesome list My dad did all of these (and now does many of them for his granddaughters, as a matter of fact, God help him and all others if he is there at Bed time and does NOT put littlest niece to bed...all hell will break loose :)). Do you have any to add? Mine is "when he realises that he has bought the wrong feminine hygine product for his daughter while away with her at soccer camp when she has her first period he talks to a trusted female and asks her to get the right stuff" My dad is made of so much win!!!

Hehe this was my first thought too :D Also form years of watching cop procedurals I know not to use bleach 'cause they just turn the lights off and everything turns blue ;)

This is my family. And we extend it to ANYONE considered family. My parents had my cousin staying with them for a few months when she needed a soft place to land. I moved back with my parents when I went to grad school. I didn't pay rent but I did do chores, filled the car up, when I had used it, bought groceries if I had the car etc. When I graduated and got three part time jobs I still didn't pay rent, I did contribute more to the food shopping because I had the car more so I drove past the grocery store. But my parents encouraged me to keep most of my pay so that I could save up and move out once I got a full time job. I've lived with friends rent free, just helping out around the house. I would let friends do the same with me if they needed a soft place to land. To me this is what a family does, you take care of each other. But to each their own.

If we are doing tv shows (not sure about streaming but...) Big Bang Theory never fails to cheer me up.

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They can offer but they can't mandate. If the employee WANTS the time the employe GETS the time. We currently have a shortage of medical staff and some hospitals offer significant monitary insentives for people to go in during the holidays. My sister (a nurse) went in and worked during the summer while she was on maternity leave (roughly 18 months here) and she made by working three days more than she would working a normal week. It is rare here though that people worry about the work that would pile up for a holiday. A holiday is pretty sacrosanct and it is expected that the employer manages the customers expecations as to what can get done during the holiday period. That is changing, and not for the better. :glare: Retail and service workers do get time off. They also get paid a living wage. In fact retail workers have a fairly good wages. An adult with 3+ years in retail makes approximately $20. A 16 year old makes about $11. This is the base pay. They then get paid extra for working weekends, public holidays and evenings. In Sweden we don't have sick days as you do in the US. We don't get paid for the first day of any sick period and after that we get paid at 80% of our base pay. After 14 days the state pays your sickleave again at 80% of your pay but it caps out at about $100 per day. Most people have an insurance through their union to make up the difference. There is a cap to the amount of sick days you can have. After that you have to apply to a job that is suited to your changed circumstances (unless for example you are dying from cancer or waiting for a hart transplant or something like that). Most retail workers can afford a week in the sun every so often.

Swedish but...the law is only true in the country you are based in. So a Swede in a Swedish company hired in the US would not be entitled to the same leave as someone working for the same company who was hired by their Swedish office. Does that make sense? It is 1 am here and I need to sleep. I shall return anon :)

Yes it is seen as fine for them to pile up. International companies like the one my dad works for do keep people in every department on during the summer, they have to overlap their schedules so that someone is always working but yes work piles up. For the purpose of vacations summer runs from beginning of June until the end of August. It does help that our biggest trading partner is Germany that has a similar system, and that in Sweden it is expected. When I was growing up the industry CLOSED in July, and anymore manufacturing might still close for two weeks in the middle of July, they simply take from stock to fulfill orders. But it is a privilege. And it is one of the reasons I chose to live here :)

Ops my bad, actually we have 25 vacation days. I got the 20 because we also have a right to four weeks continuous time off in the summer. Many now break that up and take time off during the year as well. But if you want four weeks off during the summer you have a right to it and if your employer refuses to give it to you they are breaking the law (I'm fuzzy on paid vacation because as a teacher I work 194 days)

This. Although most places now have at least a skeleton crew on don't be surprised to find "semester stängt" (closed for holidays) on smaller shops here in July. Daycare centers usually close down several of the rooms, some completely and the kids go to other centers in the summer and hospitals run on skeleton staff and close down non emergency services. I worked as a receptionist at a manufacturing company during July when I was a teen. Some days I would have only one or two phone calls all day (often from Bruno in Austria who I think was as bored as me :)) thank goodness I could read :)

In Sweden we have at least 20 days paid vacation a year. Many people go for at least a week in the sun (often Southern Europe) every year. Any more many people also go for long weekends to cities around Europe. Vacation is seen as a necessity here, even though most people work on average 35-40 hours per week

I once stepped on a wet dead baby rabbit the dog had carried inside. I still shudder when I think about it. But the frog sounds worse

Really stupid totally cotton candy will probably rot your brain reading, try Susan Mallery's Fools Gold series. They are Harlequin so that should tell you the literary value but I keep reading them and they make me feel good :D Hope you feel better soon

I officially hate cancer My thoughts are with his wife and daughter

She does seem like a real sweetheart. I'm sure we will see her at this event in the future, her mom used to be the patron now her dad is :)