Do you go to Amazon? When you borrow a Kindle book from an Overdrive library you have to actually go to Amazon and tell it to "get library book". Then you tell it what device you want it sent to. And you have to turn on wifi for the book to download. If you've done all of that Chris, you should probably call Kindle customer service (Kindle specifically, not Amazon CS) and see if they can help you. The age of the device shouldn't matter. I used Overdrive with my old Kindle Keyboard ereader and with my Kindle Fire HD - 2nd or 3rd generation I think.

I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure he felt the love from all of you in his brief time here.

Sounds like my 19 yo. I never read Ezzo, but we had a pediatrician who tried to get me to put him on a very strict feeding schedule (his exact words were "It's good for them to go hungry sometimes) and use the cry-it-out method at night. We left that practice rather quickly. Anyway, later when he was diagnosed with ADHD we learned that it's common for people with it to have trouble sleeping. ADHD is present from birth, you just usually don't know it. Most likely his sleep issues even as an infant were related to his condition. I can't imagine how awful it would have been for him if I had followed that doctor's advice.

:grouphug: Nan :grouphug:

I only give to GoFundMe if I personally know and trust the person/people involved.

This talk about 50 Shades and other books you'd be embarrassed to read in public reminded me of a Saturday Night Live skit from several years ago. Please note, some might find it offensive. It is SNL after all. And Fifty Shades of Grey. Together. :D http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/amazon-mothers-day-ad/n13488?snl=1

Interesting. I've never heard (or heard of) that song. This is our (non-religious) Christmas song.

Three to five. Off to google now.

I read Gone Girl and while it kept me wanting to find out what happens next, I was ready to throw it across the room by the end. I read The DaVinci Code and The Firm as well, and felt the same as you. I went no further with those stories. It took me two tries to get through Outlander and I only persevered because a friend kept pushing me to read it. I hated it. I already mentioned that I'm embarrassed to have read Twilight As for Fifty Shades, it's not my thing At. All. However, I did speak at a meeting of our library board because they wanted to remove it from the shelves. I would have supported them if they decided not to spend library funds to buy it in the first place, but once they did I felt it was censorship to then remove it. They made national and worldwide news (the embarrassing kind) and ended up keeping it.

Only in Florida! Tomorrow evening is my RL book club meeting and we'll be discussing Best. State. Ever.

Better get yourself to some sort of church replacement group. Maybe it's not to late. Plus, think of your children. :glare:

Twilight. I'm embarrassed to say I read it. I'd be doubly embarrassed to have read it in public. :D

I will have to wholeheartedly disagree. Of course people need to raise their children to look outside themselves, but it comes to us naturally as well. Altruism is part of our evolutionary history. Abstract, not so easy to read - http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/276/1654/13 Easier reading (my preference is explain it to me simply) http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100825/full/news.2010.427.html http://healthland.time.com/2012/10/08/is-human-nature-fundamentally-selfish-or-altruistic/ It also makes us feel good - https://www.verywell.com/what-is-altruism-2794828 The link between religion and altruism is sketchy - http://www.livescience.com/2997-religion-path-altruism.html

All but one of my dogs (the one who is my avatar and who we had put down in Feb. 2015) were unplanned. We (my FOO) either took in a found stray or took a puppy from a friend of a friend of a friend who's dog had puppies. Come to think of it, it was the same with our cats. We had one cat that ds bought at a pet store right after he graduated high school (he didn't know how bad pet stores are), and the cat we have now came from the shelter as a kitten. But for the most part they were found as strays or we heard of a litter and got one of the kittens. Dh had a Keeshond when I met him, who he bought from a breeder. We bought our Sheltie (avatar dog) from a breeder. Since you want a specific breed and you want a puppy, I suggest you look for a reputable breeder in your area. Check online, AKC sites, sites about Labs, etc. But be prepared to pay several hundred dollars. One way to get one for less it to look for a puppy in the litter who doesn't appear to meet the show dog criteria, or won't meet it as an adult dog. It was clear to the breeder that the Sheltie who became our family dog was going to be too tall to show, so he cost less than some of the other puppies in the litter. Bonus - he turned out to be The Best Dog EVER! (and I've had over half a dozen dogs throughout my life).

Yeah, I didn't get that. I wondered briefly if something went on off camera that brought on her comment but it didn't further her cause by calling her interviewer (who appeared respectful on camera at least) a derogatory name.

I hope all goes well with your surgery, Erin. I finished Cotillion last night, and read The Grand Sophy at the end of last year. I wouldn't have read either one if Aggieamy hadn't sent them to me as a gift. The Grand Sophy pulled me in right away. It took longer for Cotillion - about 100 pages - but then it got going and I ended up enjoying it. Heyer's genre is not my style, but I might actually try a few more of her books, which will make Amy quite happy. :D I really wanted to read Sapiens - it seems like the kind of book I'd find interesting - but I was bored. I tried both the audio book and the Kindle version. In both cases, I let them go back to the library unfinished at the end of the loan period. I don't know why I couldn't get into it. I tried Whose Body? twice then gave up. I like detective fiction, including the Golden Age of detective fiction. I enjoy Agatha Christie, so I don't know why I couldn't read Sayers. I also tried P.D. James' Cover her Face and gave up on that one too.

I watched the 20/20 episode on Hulu last night but didn't learn anything I don't already know except I didn't know about Marty Rathburn's strange turnaround. I went through a year where I was fascinated (in a train wreck kind of way, not an I-want-to-convert way) and read a lot about Scientology. I read Jenna Miscavige's book and watched Going Clear and found Tony Ortega's blog. among other things. By the time I downloaded a sample of Leah Remini's book to my Kindle I think I was over my fascination. I ended up not reading her book. And I'm not going to pay for the show. If it ever shows up free on Amazon or Hulu or some other streaming service, I'd probably watch at least some of it. It's creepy how Scientology stalks former members and how you can't be a Scientologist on your own. Really, anyone can call themselves Christian and read the bible and follow Jesus (I tried that before letting go of my belief) or a Buddhist, or most other religions. They're not going to come after you unless they're one of the cultish versions. But they (the cult ones) are the exception not the rule. Those religions in general don't treat former members like escaped prisoners.

I must be weird in that I'm one of the few who doesn't miss the church community or rituals. I was raised in the Catholic Church and honestly sometimes the rituals felt robotic. Everyone gave the required response out of habit. It probably is partly due to the fact that mass was still being said in Latin, so really most of us had no idea of what the priest was saying or what we were replying. It's not that I didn't enjoy church; I did. I guess because my friends were from many different backgrounds and none of our really close friends went to our church, our lives didn't revolve around it. We tried to live our lives as we believed Jesus wanted us to and we went to church to hear a sermon we could hopefully put into practice in our lives, but it wasn't a community for us. As for the singing, I am truly an awful singer. As soon as I was old enough to realize how bad I am, I began mouthing the words to hymns out of respect for my fellow worshippers. :lol: (I'm not tone-deaf. The chorus teacher at the high school where I taught told me if I know I'm off-key that means I'm not tone-deaf. He said I was just never trained - which is true.) My husband is socially liberal but politically conservative. He doesn't align himself with the current crop of conservatives in the U.S., but an earlier version. Still, most UU congregations are both socially AND politically liberal. We considered trying out one of the UU churches but as I learned more about it, I suspected he'd feel out of place due to his beliefs. We also were glad to get our weekends back. If we want to spend hours on a Sunday being with people, we plan it with our friends. It's not an obligation though. As for Quakers, I've only known one. She was in our homeschool group and I liked some of the things she told me about it, like the Inner Light and an element of God living in everyone, but like you I can't make myself believe in something so I couldn't believe in that either. I really wish we could Like your posts Rosie. :D My mother was not religious. As the years went on,she leaned towards atheist. I think if she was still alive I'd be able to tell her that we no longer believe in a deity and I think she'd tell me she doesn't either. I was happy when I found out my aunt (her younger sister) is now an atheist. Anyway, at her funeral I had them play Elvis music. She loved Elvis - she was one of those young women screaming over him back in the day. And Frank Sinatra. Different people got up and talked about her (which is common at funerals regardless of belief or lack thereof). I pointed out that if there is an afterlife, she already met someone and is talking their ear off, which got people laughing. Afterwards, people came to my house and brought food - just like they would if we were religious. You can have funeral rituals without religion. This is true. There are many opportunities but they aren't all-in-one and they aren't on every corner. You have to find a choral group, volunteer opportunities, etc. separately. You have to work a little harder, but secular groups do exist and many do have a feeling of community.

Now I have Soft Kitty, Warm Kitty as an earworm. :D

Where's Toto posted near the end of the Week One thread, but in case you missed it, the Kindle edition of Hidden Figures is currently on sale for $1.99. I probably wouldn't have noticed if she hadn't posted, so a big Thank You to her! Most of the time I'm content to wait long hold periods for a book at the library, but when the price drops significantly like in this case, I go ahead and buy it. It helps that I read most of my books on Kindle anyway.

Sorry you're dealing with the Man Cold. Ds had it last week and was unable to do ANYTHING. Add to that the fact that college classes resume next week and he was trying to be as unproductive as he possibly could before he had to be a Responsible Person again. Dh came down with the Man Cold yesterday and is moaning. Fortunately he doesn't expect to be waited on but he is of course sicker than anyone who has ever had a cold in the history of humans and colds. I have occasionally let my cold turn into a Man Cold (though in truth I rarely get sick) but the stocking thing bugs me. I was given a gift this year that could have easily been put in my stocking but neither of my guys thought of that. Of course Santa filled both of their stockings. Oh the sneeze! Dh has been known to scare the cat (who had been sleeping peacefully at the foot of the bed) just by sneezing. I hope he holds up his vow. Not to be a downer but once ds got a little older he used to roll his eyes at his dad and the man-cold. At 19 though, he now gets man colds. :glare: This is dh. The cat doesn't just get scared because of the noise but because the whole bed shakes when he sneezes.

Nothing at all. You can either not mention it until you finish it, post that you're still reading <insert title>, or not bring it up again. These threads are really conversations about books by readers and people who want to become readers. We encourage each other. The goals are to help you challenge yourself. This. Sometimes I join in and am pleasantly surprised, especially if it's a book or author I wouldn't have considered on my own. Sometimes I think I want to read the current group read, get started, and either realize I'm not liking it or I just don't have time. Other times it's a book or author I"m not interested in and I don't even consider joining. It's still interesting to see what those who are reading it have to say about it. We often start to get quiet on Sundays because we're holding off for the new thread. Sometimes a post will get lost if it's posted just before Robin starts the new one. Sometimes someone will make the same post on both the old and the new thread. Oh, and you can quote something from the previous thread but place it in the new one if it's something you really wanted to discuss (of course you can discuss without quoting but sometimes you want context).

So I'm not the only one who couldn't get into this series. I didn't think of all the things you said about this first book, but yeah. I thought I'd give the author a chance and try another one but the second one, Looking Good Dead, was really graphic and violent. I read a lot of crime fiction from cozy to hard boiled to police procedurals, so I'm not sensitive to violence if it moves the story along. The violence in that book seemed like it was just for shock value. I didn't finish it and gave up on the series.

I agree that the 12 year old should not have let everyone go out (wonder whose idea it was), but I don't think 12 is too old to babysit the others. My brother is 5 years younger and I was babysitting him when I was 9, while our mother worked nights. While we sometimes stayed up past our bedtime because, "Hey! How will Mom know?*), I knew better than to try and go out at night. I too wonder if there's more to the story but without more info I don't see what she did as something for which they should bring charges. I wonder if they had a phone at home in case of emergency, but I think the authorities overreacted. *She would know based on how tired we were the next day, especially if it was a school day. It took a while for me to figure out how she knew. :D